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Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga Hardware Issues and discussion => Topic started by: phill25 on September 25, 2005, 08:38:10 PM
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Does anyone use this hardware at all yet?
It does seem to be a good option for keeping up to date.. Just wondering what people thought about it...
Many thanks..
Phill
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Many people, it's not THAT new. Try morphzone.org
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I wasnt sure.. To me its all new!!
How does it compare to the PPC/Bvision type combo's that used to be the top of the chain?
I'm interested in purchasing one soon I think.. Might be a good way to get back into Amiga's I think...
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I love it. It's the best piece of hardware I ever bought. Coming from an A4000/PPC/Mediator system to a Pegasos was a revelation. Everything was so much smoother, faster and modern-feeling. Most of the classic Amiga software (hardware-banging stuff aside) ran flawlessly, and way faster than on the A4k. The OS looks and feels very modern and is incredibly responsive. The hardware is very good (and cost me only a third of what I'd spent on the A4000). The after-sales support is fantastic.
I have yet to find a Pegasos 2 owner who regrets buying one.
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Are there future plans for 'higher end graphics cards' etc? The 9250 in the 'PC' world (I know please dont laugh) doesnt really cut it in any game today, but then I know this is the Amiga and not a PC trying to run Windows XP...
I used to own a top end Amiga 1200, but now I just use a 1200 with a 030 @ 50mhz and 16mbs of ram with a small internal 2.5" hard drive... Its fine for what I use it for, but as always, I want more!! :crazy:
I read things of the Pegasos 3 coming out or something?
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pegasos 3 may come, or may not come but it doesn't matter much unless morphos 1.5 comes out. Unfortunately genesi (the company who made the Pegasos) stopped supporting the native pegasos OS, the morphos, and concentrated on linux. Pegasos for sure is a good piece of hardware, but I wouldn't spend dime on it to run linux (or run a morphos without a TCP/IP stack).
check here (http://www.morphos.net/)
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Countzero.. Please.. Stone trowing in class houses.. I'm quite sure you don't wan't all real and *imagined* Dirt digged out of your favorite system. :-D
MorphOS may have PPC native Net-stack a lot sooner then you'd expect. There's ovet 1000USD bounty made, and there's a thread on MZ concerning the progress of port.
http://www.morphzone.org/modules/newbb_plus/viewtopic.php?topic_id=3979&forum=32
Also see bounties page
http://www.morphzone.org/modules/bounty/
For example.. KHTML-project is likely to be first (unless Amizilla arrives soon, but IIRC it's not likely) CSS capable web browser for *ANY* Amiga (or Amigalike) system ever.
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@countzero
MorphOS 1.5 is worked on, as has been the recently released versions of MorphOS 1.4.4 and 1.4.5, including the MorphOS 3D Update (http://3d.morphos-team.net).
I should know, I am working on it.
I don't know why you think you somehow have any knowlege or, insider information about this. I suggest you restrain from commenting on things you don't appear to know about.
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I'm not throwing stones here. I'm not anti-genesi either. If you read my post you'll see I admit the pegasos is a good piece of hardware. I just made my comment about the OS situation about pegasos no one has mentioned before. I'm glad to see that somebody is working on morphos. If the 1.5 actually comes out with TCP/IP and altivec supoort, I'll probably buy a peg 2 (or maybe 3 by then).
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@countzero
For PPC native TCP/IP stack for MorphOS take a look into ezTCP (http://www.morphzone.org/modules/mydownloads/singlefile.php?lid=334).
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How does it compare to the PPC/Bvision type combo's that used to be the top of the chain?
It is a totally different world. Everything is faster, smoother and works better. You can try MorphOS on your BPPC/BVision system but it is a lot slower than on Pegasos of course. I use my Pegasos now since over 2 years and it replaces my old A4k-PowerUP System completly.
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Thanks very much for the help and advice with regards to the Pegasos system.. I'm just in the middle of talking to the gent that builds them through amber-inc and the prices arent all that bad for what you get.
I'm just gonna have to find the cash and the time to get one built and sorted!!
Although is anyone running a faster graphics card than the ATI 9250 on their system?
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@phill25
My 8500LE is faster than 9250.
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So there are other graphics cards that people use other than the ones that they sell with the Pegasos systems then?
I saw a few bargins for graphics cards on Ebay ( ATI's 9500 pro for example) for £30 which isnt too bad.. I was curious as to whether or not it could be used in the Pegasos system that was all.. I figured for gaming it would be a lot better than the 9250 model..
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@phill25
Get a Radeon 9100/8500 for your Peg2.
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I really like Pegasos it seems like a solid system that delivers.
It feels like a positive system and the community feels very positive.
I would definitely get a Pegasos today if I wanted an Amiga like system. It is relatively cheap, runs many apps and is a compact silent system.
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Is that an Ebay job again for me?
I'll have a look into it.. I havent bought it yet!! The car gets sorted first before I get any more computer bits!! :lol:
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@Phill
A few months ago I bought an ODW, which is basicly a Pegasos 2.
The hardware compared to classic Amiga is very fast and also relativly cheap. MorphOS is very responsive and much, much faster then the fastest classic and very compatible to older software. Some software I tried needed a small modification when installing, but everything run.
It is a pity that MorphOS still lacks some functionality 'out of the box'.
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It does sound like it is the way forward for Amiga hardware/software..
Do the orignal games work on the system ok? I guess they should if the orignal OS works with them... Am I right?
What new games has the Amiga got coming out for it? Where might I find that out?
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Do the orignal games work on the system ok? I guess they should if the orignal OS works with them... Am I right?
What you mean with original games? You have to know that MorphOS is not an UAE and all software that requieres AGA or any special amiga hardware wont work of course.
Here a small list what runs on Pegasos:
Shogo, Wipeout2097, Heretic1+2, Quake1+2+3, Payback, Earth2140, FeebleFiles, Freespace, Knights&Merchants,...
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I saw a few bargins for graphics cards on Ebay ( ATI's 9500 pro for example) for £30 which isnt too bad.. I was curious as to whether or not it could be used in the Pegasos system that was all.. I figured for gaming it would be a lot better than the 9250 model..
The Radeon 9250 is the highest card that will run with MorphOS for now. You can choose between Voodoo3, Voodoo4, Voodoo5 or Radeon 7x00 till 9250. There are also some old SiS and Permedia2 cards supported.
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So basically its 'useless' for like The Settlers, Skidmarks, Banshee etc then?
That is ok... I'm just finding out all this now rather than going out and buying it and asking why its not all working!! ;)
Many thanks :)
Will later model graphics cards be working at some point?
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So basically its 'useless' for like The Settlers, Skidmarks, Banshee etc then?
That is ok... I'm just finding out all this now rather than going out and buying it and asking why its not all working!! ;)
Well, you can run UAE on MorphOS for the old games of course. ;-)
Will later model graphics cards be working at some point?
Depends if they are compatible with the AGP 2.0 Port in Pegasos.
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These are good points... But I dont think I could ever give up my Amiga 1200.... Its got true sentimental value for that :D
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These are good points... But I dont think I could ever give up my Amiga 1200.... Its got true sentimental value for that :D
Yes, I understand that. I also still have my A1200 beside my Pegasos here.
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countzero .. OK. You have fair points there. And yes.. the MorphOS development have had it's share of problems, but I tend to consider situation quite positive at the moment. There's no large financial backing at the moment (as on 2002-2003) but it's definitely been moving forward.
IMHO. that Altivec support would be nice.. But If I had to choose I'll much prefer nice Web browser and Netstack.
(and no.. I don't have Pega at the moment)
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For some (OLD) videos of Morphos 1.3, Debian, and Mac On Linux in action on a Pegasos 1 go to:
http://www.magneticsystemsnyc.com/Video.htm
Also for an _OLD_ Review of Peg1 and 1.3 go to:
http://www.magneticsystemsnyc.com/Website/BeginRevGrphc.html
Its a good source of info but the new Peg2 and mos 1.4.x is Miles Ahead..
oh and imho the A1200 is the best Amiga ever made!
magnetic