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Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga Hardware Issues and discussion => Topic started by: orange on September 16, 2005, 12:22:33 PM
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I'm sure there are some devices that allow connecting PS2 to SVGA monitor, could they be hacked to work with Amiga?
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These two were on the first site to come up on google. They look like you could plug the composite video and audio from a miggy straight in without any hacking
I've never used one and have no idea how well they work but I'd love to hear from someone who has.
http://www.ramelectronics.net/html/video-vga_adapter.html (http://www.ramelectronics.net/html/video-vga_adapter.html)
http://www.ramelectronics.net/html/video-vga_adapter.html (http://www.ramelectronics.net/html/video-vga_adapter.html)
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I have this model of the VideoView and purchased it for the expressed reason to pump Amiga composite video to a PC monitor. It works in full color when the signal is fed from the A520, but the video is in low resolution as expected since the compsite signal is designed to emit a video signal for television screens. It, in no way can compare to the hi-res screens achieved with a SD/FF. A nice point of this device is that it can convert either an NTSC or PAL composite signal to a 31khz monitor. The price is reasonable but there are compromises, eg. fast, good, cheap... pick two.
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hmm, what about an RGB to scart cable with a scart to composite adapter like the one that comes with the xbox connected to one of those things. Would that solve the problem?
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;-) As I see it, since the Amiga's composite video out and the PS2's video out are the same, any external hardware solution that works with one should work with the other....
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CaptChaos wrote:
hmm, what about an RGB to scart cable with a scart to composite adapter like the one that comes with the xbox connected to one of those things. Would that solve the problem?
Sorry, but no. RGB->Composite is not just simply a matter of wiring, but actual signal conversion. I don't have an Xbox myself, but I assume the mentioned 'scart to composite adapter' is the common thingy allowing you to hook three RCA-cables (video, L-audio & R-audio) into a scart socket. This is just a wiring adapter, the scart socket accepts both composite, S-video and RGB inputs, but on different pins (well, some of the 20 pins are shared between the three, have a look at hardwarebook.net for more details)
-Paul
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I believe there is a solution..........simply get a Genlock with S-Video OUT and take that S-Video to the VGA convertor box and the signal should look pretty darn good! with no flicker.
I saw this on a PC with an ATI card with S-Video IN, and it looked good. so it should be the same with this box.
I know I will be getting one..way cheaper than scandoublers for Amiga.
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Feeding S-Video from a genlock to the scandoubler will undoubtedly look much better than using a composite signal, esp. from an A520 - but don't expect the full quality of RGB...
I've been using a genlock for feeding Amy's output to my PC's video card :lol: - it's usable, but I prefer the flickerfixed output on my 2nd 17" CRT quite a bit.
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leirbag28 wrote:
I believe there is a solution..........simply get a Genlock with S-Video OUT and take that S-Video to the VGA convertor box and the signal should look pretty darn good! with no flicker.
Why go to all this trouble? Amiga RGB to S-Video boxes are fairly common and cheap. Also, some genlocks require software and won't work with games or other programs that take over the OS.
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I've been after a scandoubler for months but they're mad expensive. This looks like a decent alternative. Before I start bidding away would I be right in thinking that any of these will get my Amiga hooked upto the 17" TFT monitor that's itching to have Gloom on it?
http://search.ebay.co.uk/search/search.dll?from=R40&satitle=ps2+vga
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Amiga RGB to S-Video boxes are fairly common and cheap.
Uhm.... link please? I've been pondering building one for a year or so, but just been too lazy. If someone's done it for me, I'd gladly buy one.
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yeah these should work, although they are cheap and nasty fixes
i have a dreamcast specialized one (becaue the dreamcast is little more than pc chips at the end of the day, and can put out native vga mode)
and it works perfectly, but i've heard some of these vga boxes are crappy quality.
they'll work....just make sure you research them a little first.
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Thanks for that. When you say they're crappy quality will it be worse than the fifteen year old TV I'm currently using that has the unique feature of every time you change the volume the picture flickers and goes dark for about ten minutes?
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just wondering if these LCD/Tvs would be any use with a vga adapter?the Tv side of the Lcd/tv combo should be as good as a 15 year Tv,if you just want to use arial only.
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Get an X-RGB2, highly recommended. All you need is a converter to convert Japanese scart to European scart and then you're set.
http://www.lik-sang.com/info.php?category=219&products_id=2875&
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Nice toy but too expensive.
Any other ideas?
Saludos
Rod
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@Rod
Maybe this Magic VGA Box (http://www.play-asia.com/paOS-13-71-86-70-4s4.html) is something for you. You can read an Amiga related review here (http://www.particles.org/reviews/vgabox.php). In this review an A600 and A1200 where connected with the composite port and the screenshots look ok.
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I bought one of those off Ebay the last week (it's coming from Canada so it could take a while.) When it arrives I'll post what it's like on here. In fact it was this thread that gave me the idea to do it.
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The box arrived yesterday which was pretty quick considering it was coming from Canada. It's really easy to set up and you can have a PC plugged into it as well and then run two machines from the same monitor. The quality is quite good once you've messed around with the onscreen menu. The only problem with it is higher resolution Workbench modes. Interlace still flickers. Having said that it's a million times better than the crappy 14" TV I've been using until now. Also if you get one you may be tempted to mess about with screenmodes such as Doublepal and Multiscan. This is of course wrong and will lead to loading Workbench off a floppy to fix as the screen goes blue when loading from HD. (It's actually the same shade as the Windows blue screen of death.) All in all worth the money but it's not a flickerfixer.
P.S Does anyone know what the mode VGA Only does?
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This thread got me started googling for similar items and came up with this. Is it anything close to what I could use to get my A4000 to display on an HDTV ready TV? Sure would be neat, if a tad pricey.
http://www.tvone.com/1t-v1280pchd-dvi.shtml
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With regards to my last post on the Magic VGA box, I kind of stand corrected. I selected NTSC:high res laced and rebooted. When Workbench reloaded it was flicker free... but sadly in black and white. I tried changing the mode to NTSC using the early startup control but it didn't work. So if there's a way to get the NTSC mode in colout this is a fairly decent SD/FF.
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That's because your Amiga is still a PAL Amiga. Changing to NTSC through early-boot-menu is a way of making your PAL amiga run still in PAL, but not @ 50hz anymore but 60hz. You are running the so called PAL60.
The same thing would happen to an NTSC A1200 that tries to switch to PAL mode from early-boot-menu, except it would work in NTSC50 mode.
The PAL/NTSC multi-standard of Amiga computers is a very relative term. Deep down they are locked to either NTSC or PAL. Amigas with TV tuners such as A600 and A1200 take this to another level where the TV tuner itself is also either PAL or NTSC specific.
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Thanks for the info. That's a shame as interlace looked really good in NTSC mode. Anyone who's got an NTSC Amiga and needs a cheap scandoubler, this is definitely worth a look.
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Here's a very interesting little box I found, check it out:
http://www.goldenshop.com.hk/AI-trad/Misc_htm/m_comavvga.htm
It sure looks like it ought to work. What am I missing? For $50 plus or minus I'm thinking hooray.... am I right?
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and here's another interesting place I found. You electro-hackers might like this:
http://www.tkk.fi/Misc/Electronics/circuits/vga2rgbs.html