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Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga Marketplace => Topic started by: drwho on September 15, 2005, 05:29:42 PM

Title: One $EXPENSIVE$ A500 !!!
Post by: drwho on September 15, 2005, 05:29:42 PM
Hi Folks,

Usually, I am not phazed by anything with the C= name on it that sells for way more money than it's worth these days, but, this one takes the cake:

A500

$291.90 !!! (at the time of this post anyways) for an A500 !!!! I am looking at the auction and this system doesn't even have a hard drive or some other cool piece of hardware to justify the price!!

As far as the games go, 99.9% of those are available on various "Abandonware" sites, so providing a huge lot of "backups" pirated copies does not constitute a good reason for such a massive investment.

So, I ask you all, why would anyone allow themselves to pay this much for a setup like this? Am I missing something?

Thanks,
Mike
Title: Re: One $EXPENSIVE$ A500 !!!
Post by: kd7ota on September 15, 2005, 05:34:30 PM
...Wow!

That much??!! I wonder if the people buying these Amiga's are ones that don't know what one is?  :-D

For the most part. I wouldn't feel sorry for the person that ends up spending that much. Maybe they want to buy something new?  :-D
Title: Re: One $EXPENSIVE$ A500 !!!
Post by: drwho on September 15, 2005, 05:40:39 PM
I tried to think to myself "self, you love Amiga's, would you spend that much on one? Sure I would, but not a hard disk-less , unaccellerated A500 with a bunch of pirated game copies."

I don't get it. I bought 2 complete Amiga 2000's on ebay, just recently. Each had a 2mb card in them, both had Bridgeboards with hard-cards, I got a functionaly 1084 monitor, 3 keyboards. Basically, I bought a mouse, begged a fine memeber of this site for a 1.3 ROM chip. I added a used 2091 with 7.0 ROMs from SoftHut and a used 4.5GB SCSI HD and I had a pretty nice Kickstart 1.3 based retro-gaming system with an HD and Workbench 1.3 to play with all of my old tools, utilities, games, fred fish disks, etc. Total cost = $139.00 shipping included.

Not too shabby, if I must say so myself. :-D

Thanks,
Mike
Title: Re: One $EXPENSIVE$ A500 !!!
Post by: odin on September 15, 2005, 05:47:12 PM
-edit-
fixed =).
Title: Re: One $EXPENSIVE$ A500 !!!
Post by: hektic on September 15, 2005, 05:49:04 PM
I noticed this one too!

I can't understand it either

I've seen A4000's go for less?!?

Good luck to him  :lol:

Title: Re: One $EXPENSIVE$ A500 !!!
Post by: drwho on September 15, 2005, 05:50:48 PM
Sorry, that was an accident.

- Mike
Title: Re: One $EXPENSIVE$ A500 !!!
Post by: drwho on September 15, 2005, 05:52:52 PM
Fixed! :-)
Title: Re: One $EXPENSIVE$ A500 !!!
Post by: x56h34 on September 15, 2005, 05:55:03 PM
For a moment I thought that he had forgotten to indicate that the TV is not included, however upon closer inspection it clearly states that it is not, so definitely there's no chance of confused bidders here.

It's simply a mistery to me why the bidding has gone wild on this one.
Title: Re: One $EXPENSIVE$ A500 !!!
Post by: minator on September 15, 2005, 06:02:11 PM
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People posting long crappy URLs messing up word wrap and pagewidth ought to be crucified.


Um, hate to tell you but that's a browser issue...
Title: Re: One $EXPENSIVE$ A500 !!!
Post by: Cyberus on September 15, 2005, 06:12:52 PM
I sold an A500 for 255 pounds about a month ago on ebay. I was seriously struggling to pay the rent, and that helped me out enormously
Title: Re: One $EXPENSIVE$ A500 !!!
Post by: Managarm on September 15, 2005, 06:32:03 PM
This is quite bad, but I'm sure I saw a xopy of Xenon II go for about £200 ($360ish). Imagine playing a game that potentially costed four times more than the computer.
Title: Re: One $EXPENSIVE$ A500 !!!
Post by: x56h34 on September 15, 2005, 06:41:48 PM
@Cyberus:

I remember that auction. What a good final bid, eh? :-) I actually stopped watching it when the price was around 60 quid as I thought that it was way overpriced at that point. I never realised that the final bid was 255GBP! :-o
Title: Re: One $EXPENSIVE$ A500 !!!
Post by: Coolit on September 15, 2005, 07:47:28 PM
The postage is £40 so it's cost him £280!!!! Wonder if one of the games s rare or something?
Title: Re: One $EXPENSIVE$ A500 !!!
Post by: hektic on September 15, 2005, 07:49:09 PM
Someone paid £255 for Xenon II?!?


Are there like a handfull of games which nobody can get hold of or something?
Title: Re: One $EXPENSIVE$ A500 !!!
Post by: Speelgoedmannetje on September 15, 2005, 07:54:27 PM
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drwho wrote:
Am I missing something?

Thanks,
Mike
Ehm, the Amiga's boxed and in perfect shape? :-?

:lol:
Title: Re: One $EXPENSIVE$ A500 !!!
Post by: drwho on September 15, 2005, 08:18:01 PM
WOW, all I can say is HOLY SH*T!!!

$438.77 in US dollars at the end of that auction. I am dumbfounded by that. Jesus, I think that when I bought my first A500 back in the 80's I paid less than that brand new WITH a 1084 monitor!!!

I almost feel like writing an email to the chap who won and saing, "Congratulations! You own the most expensive A500 on the planet!"

Thanks,
Mike

Title: Re: One $EXPENSIVE$ A500 !!!
Post by: leofoe on September 15, 2005, 08:44:16 PM
You don't believe this was a real auction, do you?
Look at the biddings list.
Title: Re: One $EXPENSIVE$ A500 !!!
Post by: drwho on September 15, 2005, 09:01:31 PM
I dont follow you, sorry. :-(

Thanks,
Mike
Title: Re: One $EXPENSIVE$ A500 !!!
Post by: SarahLB on September 15, 2005, 09:09:57 PM
@ drwho

I have one word for you: EBAY!!!

Do you not all find that the majority of items, once listed on Ebay, suddenly increase damatically beyond all sense in market value?

I bought an A500 on Ebay for £30.00 (approx $18) including postage, and my brother got an A500+ for £10.00!!!!

The problem is, either all those stupid bids were fake bids by friends or relatives to push up the price (so more fool anyone genuine who carries it on just to win, because your common sense [if have any] should prevail to tell you that its not worth it so just leave it and look at another listing) or people who got caught up in auction fever and lost all sense of the lot's actual worth, and just went bid crazy!
Title: Re: One $EXPENSIVE$ A500 !!!
Post by: TjLaZer on September 15, 2005, 09:11:33 PM
Well this is a A500 PLUS so it's not some plane Jane A500.  If that helps.  I know here in the USA this model is worth more than a regular A500....
Title: Re: One $EXPENSIVE$ A500 !!!
Post by: Doppie1200 on September 15, 2005, 09:35:57 PM
A500 plus is pretty common in my opinion. I see them come by several times a year. Maybe I should harvest them.
Title: Re: One $EXPENSIVE$ A500 !!!
Post by: kd7ota on September 15, 2005, 09:58:04 PM
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Doppie1200 wrote:
Maybe I should harvest them.


 :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

That is a very funny way to say that. Nice one!  :lol:  :-D


I agree. Harvest, then resell on ebay.  :-)
Title: Re: One $EXPENSIVE$ A500 !!!
Post by: Legerdemain on September 15, 2005, 10:33:28 PM
Oh dear... maybe I should sell my expanded A1200. Looking at that price I guess I could get somehwere around £3000 for it...?  :lol:
Title: Re: One $EXPENSIVE$ A500 !!!
Post by: lopos on September 15, 2005, 10:46:18 PM
I just bought an A500 with 2MB expansion + monitor etc. for £7.99. That what I call a bargain. :-D  :-D
Title: Re: One $EXPENSIVE$ A500 !!!
Post by: Tomas on September 15, 2005, 11:11:00 PM
What the hell?? how is it possible to bid so much for such a standard a500?? There are not much orginal games/software included either. I sure hope this dude has atleast removed or replaced the battery.

I sometimes wonder if i should sell my stuff on the international ebay... I have 3 a500 now. One with a gvp scsi disk "500something megs" and around 4.5megs of ram.. I also have the orginal package of my first a500, which is in much better condition that the one he sells.
I doubt i would get more than max around $80-100 for it here on norwegian auctions....
Title: Re: One $EXPENSIVE$ A500 !!!
Post by: drwho on September 16, 2005, 01:25:02 AM
Apparently, judging by that auction, you could get a bundle of cash for it too.
Title: Re: One $EXPENSIVE$ A500 !!!
Post by: leofoe on September 16, 2005, 08:56:53 AM
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drwho wrote:
I dont follow you, sorry. :-(
Thanks,
Mike

What I am trying to say is that an auction is not always what it looks like:
- it can be a setup by one or two guys (there are only two bidders willing to bid that high);
- we will not know if the transaction will really ever take place.
If someone wants to pay a price like this, I believe it is highly unlikely the auction is real. Because there are a lot of opportunities you can buy for a much better price for the same item. Also on Ebay.
Title: Re: One $EXPENSIVE$ A500 !!!
Post by: Waccoon on September 16, 2005, 09:33:24 AM
I sold my originals, but you can buy the backups!
Title: Re: One $EXPENSIVE$ A500 !!!
Post by: Lemmink on September 16, 2005, 10:33:50 AM
Well I guess you could run into real problems when some freaks decide to bid an auction into the sky only to never be heard of after that.
You have to pay the huge provision to ebay, unless you can prove the deal never took place. That's the hard part how do you prove it, when the buyer even leaves you a "fast delivery,fine thank you" feedback.
Title: Re: One $EXPENSIVE$ A500 !!!
Post by: Cyberus on September 16, 2005, 01:05:57 PM
The thing I think a lot of people end up thinking, is that they saw an item go on ebay for X amount, so they say 'Maybe I should sell mine if they are worth that much!!!' However, ebay doesn't work like that. So many things affect the price
1) The listing - lots of photos and a nice clear description with an account of flaws with the item helps
2) The cost and availability of different shipping options
3) The condition of the item, if they are usually battered and the one being sold isn't, that'll push up the price
4) The feedback of the seller
5) What the market for that item is like - if one hasn't been on ebay for ages, and then someone lists one, there might be a flurry of bidding activity. If a few have been sold recently, the price that they go for drops, as some of the people looking out for one have won auctions and are no longer in the running when that item comes up.


Its very easy for me to think, 'Jeez, that scandoubler went for two hundred quid, maybe I should sell mine, I could do with the money', but chances are I will be disappointed...