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Title: Can Warp Engine be updated to 060?
Post by: amiga1084 on September 13, 2005, 05:53:41 AM
Hello All,
I know this topic has been posted many times but no one
has ever come up with straight answer.I have 3 Warp Engines,
in Australia you can pick up 060 now for little over $20.
I know the Voltage has to be change (from 5 to 3.3) but is
that it or is there hardware issue in the Warp Engine that
has to be done.I like to hear you comments.
Thanks in advance Merv
Title: Re: Can Warp Engine be updated to 060?
Post by: Lemmink on September 13, 2005, 06:30:38 AM
As there is no "natural" 060 Version of the Warpengine I would say no. Your task is no much different from putting an 68060 on a A3640.
Title: Re: Can Warp Engine be updated to 060?
Post by: stefcep on September 13, 2005, 01:00:30 PM
Its not the same as upgrading an A3640, because A3640 will not work if you overclock it to more than 28 Mhz, something to do with the motherboard clock signals.  BUT as the 060 and 040 are pin compatible it may be possible to do this with the warp engine, but you would at the very least need to get the voltage down to 3.3 and then change the oscillator crystal.  I know that you could do this with the Cyberstorm boards from phase 5, but i don't know if anyone has done it with a warp engine.
Title: Re: Can Warp Engine be updated to 060?
Post by: Framiga on September 13, 2005, 01:52:25 PM
short answer . . you can't :-(

The 68060 has 4 rows of pins while the WarpEngine040, nope.

http://www.amiga-hardware.com/download_photos/warpengine4000_5_big.jpg
Title: Re: Can Warp Engine be updated to 060?
Post by: x56h34 on September 13, 2005, 02:34:36 PM
The biggest task is writing 060-specific firmware and burning it onto the card somehow. Even if you could gracefully adapt 060 instead of 040 onto a WarpEngine card, the card would still need to know "how to talk to" the 060.
Title: Re: Can Warp Engine be updated to 060?
Post by: adolescent on September 13, 2005, 05:39:41 PM
Quote

stefcep wrote:
BUT as the 060 and 040 are pin compatible


Not at all.  The 060 has 206 pins, the 040 has 179.  You can't physically fit an 060 into an 040 specific socket.

Edit: saw framiga already said this (ie. 3 rows vs. 4 for the 060).

BTW, you might be able to use an adapter like this.  Don't know the cost or availability though.

http://www.emulation.com/catalog/off-the-shelf_solutions/production-test_adapters/upgrade_motorola/