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Amiga computer related discussion => General chat about Amiga topics => Topic started by: NedKelly on August 31, 2005, 11:31:50 PM
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What happened to Phase 5?
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Busted
Some of the developers formed B-Plan (Pegasos I + II) and are working on Morphos
Markus
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Markus_Bieler wrote:
Busted
Some of the developers formed B-Plan (Pegasos I + II) and are working on Morphos
Markus
So there is no chance of anyone making some new/more phase 5 A1200 PPC accelerator boards?
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So there is no chance of anyone making some new/more phase 5 A1200 PPC accelerator boards?
Doubt it, the design is old and parts probably hard to come by. There is supposedly a new G4 board being worked on by Adam Kowalczyk up in Canada somewhere. He said he'd release it 1st Quarter 2005 or maybe he's waiting for the OS4 full release...dunno
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NedKelly wrote:
So there is no chance of anyone making some new/more phase 5 A1200 PPC accelerator boards?
DCE Computers made some Phase 5's products after it went bust and they probably still hold the license for those P5 products. They however have even much worser reputation than even p5 had when things started to wrong for them, and haven't done ppc-turbos nor G-rex products (which btw were also p5 designs even though they didn't manage to release them) for maybe 4-5 years now.
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NedKelly wrote:
So there is no chance of anyone making some new/more phase 5 A1200 PPC accelerator boards?
DCE did a deal with P5 to make some for a while, but from what people have posted here they weren't as good as the Phase5 made cards..then there's the whole messy DCE repair saga.
Does anyone remember the details of the deal? Did they buy the designs or just make them under license?
edit: beaten to it :lol:
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Who ever didn't replace the DCE provided fan on their CSPPC card usually ended up with a busted card shortly.
DCE used the BPPC small 30x30x6mm fan to cool down the 604e!!! :-(
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Well that would be me. I playing Heretic II on a hot Seattle day and my card went bust. Sent it to Germany and never saw it again. :getmad:
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So the DCE boards sold by softhut.com aren't worth buying?
I'm going to get a A1200, then was looking at getting either a 040 or 060 for it. Nine years ago I had a A1200 with a falcon 040@25mhz. Would like at least that setup now, so wondering once I get my A1200, which accelerator board to get?
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I would say, don't get the DCE boards if you have the choice between a Phase5 and DCE board. For instance Blizzard 1260 produced by DCE can not be disabled by holding down the '2' key as the Phase5 boards can. A great advantage if you don't want to upgrade your A1200 to the max, and needs to be able to go back to normal A1200 stage...
Another thing; if you are deciding for a Blizzard PPC board in order to be able to get a BVision graphics card installed, be aware that DCE sold some boards stating they were Blizzard PPC 68060@50 and 603e@210 for instance. The fact is that in most cases the 603e was running 210, but only because they overclocked a 603e CPU designed for 160 MHz. If you on the other hand can find a Blizzard PPC board produced by Phase5, you can find boards with 603e CPUs designed for 160, 200 and 240 MHz instead.
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For instance Blizzard 1260 produced by DCE can not be disabled by holding down the '2' key as the Phase5 boards can.
Thats not true. My Blizzard 1260 from DCE can be disabled holding the "2".
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Same here with my DCE Blizzard 1260. :-)
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OK, I stand corrected. I guess it doesn't matter if you buy a DCE or a Phase5 model when talking about Blizzard 1260 boards, but I would still choose Phase5 if I had the choice.
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By disabling the board, does that mean the whole board or just the cpu?
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@NedKelly
Everything. CPU, RAM, and SCSI.
BTW, my DCE Blizzard 1260 can be disabled with the "2" key also. I've never heard of any design differences between the Phase5 and DCE Blizzard 1260s.
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I wish they made more options available, such as by holding a certain key at boot, you get let's say:
Hold T - disable SCSI but keep 060 and memory available
Hold Y - disable 060 but keep SCSI and memory available to the onboard 020 CPU
etc...
Wishful thinking, I know. Probably easier said than done.
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x56h34 wrote:
I wish they made more options available, such as by holding a certain key at boot, you get let's say:
Hold T - disable SCSI but keep 060 and memory available
Hold Y - disable 060 but keep SCSI and memory available to the onboard 020 CPU
etc...
Wishful thinking, I know. Probably easier said than done.
I think you can hold 'S' to disable scsi. I honestly believe I've read that somewhere...
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Okay, then where did everyone here get their DCE 1240/60 cards, how much?
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and now, a million dollar question:
just for curiosity . . . anybody is "aware" from where, some Amiga resellers are able to find, all that brand new Blizzards 060 and PPC?
I've seen that AmigaKit and SoftHut (not sure about Vesalia) has in stock.
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Framiga wrote:
and now, a million dollar question:
just for curiosity . . . anybody is "aware" from where, some Amiga resellers are able to find, all that brand new Blizzards 060 and PPC?
I've seen that AmigaKit and SoftHut (not sure about Vesalia) has in stock.
The boards Amigakit sells are used. I can't see any new blizzard cards on Softhut's site either - if they were selling them they were probably just selling off remaining stock from years ago.
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i don't see the word "used"!
HERE (http://amigakit.leamancomputing.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=43&products_id=161&osCsid=231b7a4500081f5e1d5ea8d237fcc73)
and IIRC few weeks/months ago they published a News, with "available few card in stock" or so.
And other resselers have it.
EDIT ah OK seen the "Refurbished" just now.