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Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga Software Issues and Discussion => Topic started by: jumpship on March 22, 2003, 05:24:47 PM
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I have tried H&Ps site and it leads to a dead link :(
Anyone know where else i can find it?
Cheers
JS
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Hum,
How about this 1.48Mb download?
http://www.amiga.com/3.5/download/BoingBag2.lha (http://www.amiga.com/3.5/download/BoingBag2.lha)
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I have it here, I've bunged it on my FTP in uploads if you want to grab it ftp.amiga.kicks-ass.org/uploads (http://ftp.amiga.kicks-ass.org/uploads/)
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i wonder what the legality is re where the Boingbags can be hosted? might be an idea for me to upload the BB's to here and Amigaworld....
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Yea , strange it`s not on aminet...
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Have to admit i found it odd when i couldn't find it on Aminet. would be good for all of it was on such sites as this, may be worth asking Wayne
js
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Did you get it Jumpship? I saw someone in, I assume it was you, would be nice if you could let me know if it was you, and a thankyou wouldnt go amiss too :-)
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sorry mate, didn't mean to neglect you! i managed to get half of it down, but then this blood windows box crashed when I tried to open a, unrelated, file. Have been trying to get back in but it either says it was blocked or says "550 Requested action not taken: file unavailable".
And I thankyou for doing this, it is greatly appreciated! :pint:
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Warning! Add modify your startup-sequence like this:
C:SetPatch QUIET SKIPROMUPDATES=exec.library
The exec in the BB2 was udated with one written in the C language (slooow). The original was written in assembler (snappy). The performance with BB2 exec on a 060/50MHz is like a AOS3.1 w. 020/14MHz.
Also, try doing something about the datatypes.library task. It got priority 15 (or something) and locks the computer whenever in use by out-prioriting the rest of the system. I havn't found any good utility to adress this problem without messing with the rest of the system (Execute), so I can't recommend anything.
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Guys is this all regarding OS3.5 or 3.9? I had no problems downloading BB1 and 2 for 3.5 sometime last week from amiga.com.
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thanks for the heads up JetRacer!
@odin
I am looking for 3.9, sorry i forgot to add it into my first post
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I would assume it's 3.9 looking at the signature, but there is no BB2 for 3.9 - just an updated BB1.
All the BoingBags (3.5 BB1 & 2, and 3.9 BB1 & BB1Update) can be downloaded from amiga.com.
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@ JetRacer,
The exec in the BB2 was udated with one written in the C language (slooow). The original was written in assembler (snappy).
Responsiveness seems fine on my A4000T w/ 060 and CyberVisionPPC gfx card, and the OS 3.9 BB2 exec.library. So what version of exec.library are you using ???
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hmm you should be able to get it fine.... I'll stick it on HTTPd then www.amiga.kicks-ass.org (http://www.amiga.kicks-ass.org)
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SilvrDrgn: ...Just try the line I recommended will you. It appears as if it is still running ok, until you put some load on it (ie. multiple tasks). Then it performs like a slug.
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Cheers Ryu,
the only other thing i could have thought of was if you wanted to load it upto my FTP, still, getting it from your http stil now.
Thanks again :pint:
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I have just downloaded it from the following page http://www.haage-partner.de/aos39/index-e.html which has a link ftp://ftp.haage-partner.com/AmigaOS/BB3.9-2.lha which works fine from here.
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SilvrDrgn: Oh, sorry; can't check the BB1upd exec version w/o alot of hassle. Using 40.68 atm though.
Everyone: you find current exec version in your WB menu "Workbench/About System".
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If you want speed on a 060 I also recommend the following patches found at Aminet:
CyberPatcher (aminet?)
CMQ060
PatchMult64
BlazeWCP
FBlit
FText
Also, switching from FFS to SFS vastly increases HDD performance. SFS is so fast (asm) that it outperforms the RAM disk in every aspect but transfer rates. You also don't have to worry about disk validation no more.
Speed things up even further by adding buffers with the AddBuffers command. A few megs doesn't hurt.
Cleaning up the startup-sequence and user-startup also help. The intepreting is dead slow. Remove comments, join all "Assign libs: whatever:libs add" to one line, etc.
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And, yes, I have tweaked my own startup-sequence beyond reason. The env: contense is unarchived with lha during boot (faster than lzx (w/o compression)). I have no user startup. All application assigns are collected in a separate script and sorted by partition and directory location. I "cd" to every directory used more than twice so less time is spent processing paths. All "Assign XXX to YYY/XXX add" are merged.
As I said: waaay beyond reason.
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JetRacer wrote:
[snip]
CyberPatcher (aminet?)
CMQ060
PatchMult64
BlazeWCP
FBlit
FText
[snip]
Well, as I mentioned, I have a CyberVisionPPC graphics card, so I don't need all that stuff you listed. Since you're running it, I assume you're still running on the AGA chipset. That's probably the reason why yours feels sluggish to you and mine does not to me. :-)
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well since sicky found it I'll remove my HTTPd again now...
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JetRacer wrote:
And, yes, I have tweaked my own startup-sequence beyond reason. The env: contense is unarchived with lha during boot (faster than lzx (w/o compression)). I have no user startup. All application assigns are collected in a separate script and sorted by partition and directory location. I "cd" to every directory used more than twice so less time is spent processing paths. All "Assign XXX to YYY/XXX add" are merged.
As I said: waaay beyond reason.
That is fun stuff. I used to make little custom scripts for
games/programs and what not to keep the user-startup slim.
Making little scripts and getting programs to work was
usually more fun than using the program itself. :)
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Ryu wrote:
well since sicky found it I'll remove my HTTPd again now...
OK, thanks again mate :)
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Vincent wrote:
I would assume it's 3.9 looking at the signature, but there is no BB2 for 3.9 - just an updated BB1.
Wrong, my friend. There is a 3.9 BB2, but it's somewhat unofficial, made by H&P.
@jetracer: Please tell me more about the v45 exec.library vs v40. Then I would set up two amigas with almost identical configs, and check it out.
-Paul
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@PaSha
Yeah, I heard about that from Ryu. I'd never seen any mention of BB2 for 3.9 on any of the sites, guess I missed it on H&P.
I thought when people said BB2 for 3.9 I thought they meant the update. My mistake. :-)
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The links in this thread don't work.
So, where can I get BoingBag 1 and 2?
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http://www.haage-partner.de/aos39/index-e.html
for amiga os 3.9 bb1 & 2 :hammer:
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The links there are dead.
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BB1 for 3.9 here
http://www.birdys.de/tools/boingbag39-1.lha
BB2 at the above mentioned URL.
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Framiga wrote:
BB1 for 3.9 here
http://www.birdys.de/tools/boingbag39-1.lha
BB2 at the above mentioned URL.
This one works. Thanks. But the other ones don't.
So the question is now: Where can I get BB2?
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At least HPs BB2 link seems to work - downloaded it just a few minutes ago.
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@Ryu
i wonder what the legality is re where the Boingbags can be hosted? might be an idea for me to upload the BB's to here and Amigaworld....
I suspect as they contain OS components, they can only be distributed by people with a valid Workbench redistribution licence (or whateevr they are called). If you attempt to upload anything containing system libraries to Aminet, you will get an email telling you the same thing.
Chris
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zipper wrote:
At least HPs BB2 link seems to work - downloaded it just a few minutes ago.
Some do. I have downloaded it now. Thanks a lot.
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At least HPs BB2 link seems to work - downloaded it just a few minutes ago.
Just a quick note for anyone finding this thread in the future:
If you amend HP's link for Boing Bag 2 with the BB1 file name, you can also download BB1 from their site i.e.:
http://www.haage-partner.net/download/AmigaOS/BoingBag39-1.lha (http://www.haage-partner.net/download/AmigaOS/BoingBag39-1.lha)
seems to work.
Their BB1 link goes to the Amiga site and that link is broken.
HTH
Robert
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Thanks to Amigaworld that H&P can hosting all BoingBags.
http://os.amigaworld.de
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ATTENTION
the BB1 at http://www.birdys.de/tools/boingbag39-1.lha
has a different filesize (5.254.220) . . . don't ask me why!
Avoid to download it and use the official URL given here.
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For v3.9:
http://www.haage-partner.de/download/Amiga/AmigaOS/
Current as of today.
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And here is the unofficial "3rd BoingBag"
http://main.aminet.net/util/sys/OS39_update_patches.lha
http://main.aminet.net/util/sys/OS39_update_patches2.lha
Extensively tested and works great!