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Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga Software Issues and Discussion => Topic started by: Helgis75 on March 21, 2003, 03:38:45 PM
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You didn't think this would happen to me, but it has..
All the long wait in 8 years and 3 months has made me very fustrated, and now i have come to a point where i feel i don't know what to believe anymore.
I just hope that they can bring out the new system by early April. If not in April, then i feel i have no choice but to go for a PC-motherboard and running the boring, poor Windows XP. I told you, Amiga. I told you to hurry up, but you always make promises. I'm sick and tired of delays after delays...It ain't funny anymore! :-( :-( :-( :-( :-(
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Helgis what has happened to you? one minute your a Amiga hardcore defender and apologist but now your talking as a normal user.
Anyway well said.
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dont take it all to heart man !
I have just had a nice chat with Eyetech, they await boards, will test them, and send them out. not sure of timescales, so I wont hazard a guess, but soon !
you're usually so upbeat !
talk to Eyetech, Hyperion themselves for what to believe in, not what some dope (me included) says on some web page. (better yet, get a copy of Total Amiga !)
some of us dont believe in anything - other than Death and Taxes (and trigger happy US presidents ;-) )
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Keep the door open just incase you want to come back. :-D
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Don't misunderstand me. I haven't lost the faith. I may have become more careful...
Well, we'll just wait and see...I guess i have no choice anymore..
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This (http://www.mentalhealth.com/book/p40-sad.html) may be the reason Helgis has flipped his lid. Still, with the days now getting longer, the extra light should help to cure him. :-D
-john
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Helgis75 wrote:
Don't misunderstand me. I haven't lost the faith. I may have become more careful...
Well, we'll just wait and see...I guess i have no choice anymore..
Egad man don't you have a PC at all? Get a PC now and don't worry about it. Amiga Inc, Hyperion, Eyetech, none of them use Amigas for their daily activities or at home. It's a hobby computer only, at least for the forseeable future:-/
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Helgis75 wrote:
You didn't think this would happen to me, but it has..
All the long wait in 8 years and 3 months has made me very fustrated, and now i have come to a point where i feel i don't know what to believe anymore.
I just hope that they can bring out the new system by early April. If not in April, then i feel i have no choice but to go for a PC-motherboard and running the boring, poor Windows XP. I told you, Amiga. I told you to hurry up, but you always make promises. I'm sick and tired of delays after delays...It ain't funny anymore! :-( :-( :-( :-( :-(
Know the feeling.
I tried remaining optimistic. These companies know how passionate we feel about Amiga, but they do insist on pulling the carrot away at the last second.
F**K the carrot go buy your Banana Box if it makes you happy. Dont get me wrong i'm still passionate about Amiga, but have been mislead once to often.
Never thought i'd agree with Paul on things but sometime he got a point even if he puts it accross rudely :-)
I gave up about a month ago... Summer is coming
and computing is a Winter hobby.
VW's, Beaches, BBQ's, BMX's & Festivals for the summer.
Ever time I mention my new Amiga order or the latest delivery schedule from Alans postings to my girlfriend.. she just comes back with... "look there goes that flying pig again!"
Shes got a point though.
I have set myself a date for Eyetech to take the money and get it in the post to me. Thats next Friday the 28/03/03. Approx 5 Months from Alans "So What are you waiting for....." speech.
Well Mate I'm waiting for you to send me the bloody thing.
Cos' Saturday morning i'll be going down the travel agents.
Amiga.org soon to be the home for non beleivers.
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none of them use Amigas for their daily activities or at home. It's a hobby computer only, at least for the forseeable future:-/
That's my thoughts too - and has been for quite a few years. Perhaps my tolerance for a lack of real NewCoolStuff from ran out a lot before anyone elses. Use what works for you however - if you're really desperate to get something soon to use as a general all-round computer, go for the win box, or a linux box, or a mac.
Keep the amiga side going too, it'll come in time... or we can sit back and enjoy the dramas like the continuous daytime television it's been for years now!. Amiga - the Bold & The Beautiful of computing :-D.
Taking it seriously could send you quite quite mad.
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Hi Helgis75,
Along with others I(sadly) got to your position long ago.
Today I went to a potential client. He asked if I use a Mac since all designers use Macs. "No" I replied "I use a PC. It's just the same"
We went on to talk about that there is no real difference between the major design software on a Mac or a PC.
Then I said that I started with an Amiga which was better than a PC or Mac. And of course he had no idea what an Amiga is.
So, I guess like many I have continued to work but on a lesser machine. Everytime I come to Amiga.org I hope for a telling interview, new screengrabs or maybe a solid release date of OS4.
Of course it is not ready yet so I keep working on my PC waiting for the A1+OS4 to ship.
If you forget about the OS(Windows) there really is some outstanding software out there... that works!.
Valan
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I have had a pc for years, doesn't stop me loving my miggy.
My pee cee is #### hot as well, but i still love amigaOS.
Get a pee cee and then wait and see what happens
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Hey Valan, its been a long time since I've seen any posts from you! How are things going in Hong Kong lately?
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My current system is a celery 400mhz PC, which only works 90% of the time, and the power supply is dying.
I'm saving up to get a Pegasos, which ironically is an *improvement* over my PC (although the PegasosII should be an even bigger improvement).
I have an A1200T kicking around (needs some parts) and I might get another PC.
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Hi Darth_X,
Things are fine with me but people here are a bit edgey about the 'A'-typical Pneumonia virus going around. People with surgical masks, moving away from anyone who even clears their throat.
I have some relatives from Toronto, canada staying with me now. Sad thing is that they insist on watching the Chinese speaking channels when I cannot understand a word of it. Bush and saddam speaking Chinese is very wierd! The soap operas are very funny though.
How's everything in Vancouver?
Take care
Valan
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My absolute, worst moments were November 2000, and November 2001.
No computer to be seen, AND not particularly an Amiga, either. (elate/intent/Taos/Qnx, I didn't know what it all even meant, no need to explain, it's kind of gone now.)
I was especially crushed, because I started bragging to people that it was FINALLY, going to appear out of the darkness.
Now I'm using a w98se, 2.26 GHz 533MHz FSB, with 1 Gig Ram and a Ti4600 card, and guess what, I'm ready to throw it into the Pacific Ocean. I cannot stand it! It takes 92 seconds to boot up, and it's using a RAID card with two 7200 RPM HD in striped mode!!!!
Why's it take so long to boot up, I really don't know/don't care, it's all ms CRAP!!! ain't it?
You know what gets me, after about 5 or 6 days on 24/7, the computer SLOWS TO A CRAWL. Really. It responds slower than my A2000.
You may wonder how it goes so long without a re-boot, well, I only use IE, Outlook express and Notepad, that's how. Oh, and I'm running RC5 in the background, hence the 24/7. IE sometimes crashes it. Notpad is pathetic for a 53,248 byte program. Memacs does WAY more, and is just about the same size.
AmigaOne! Awaiting A1 with the HIGHEST of expectations!
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@Atheist
I won't suggest any Windows machine is all that elegant. But they finally got something acceptable in Windows 2000, and then, if you have the drivers, in Windows XP.
I use win2000 at home and work, and I can live with it. I shudder everytime I think about using a 95/98/or ME box...the multitasking/reliability on those machines is bad.
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> Now I'm using a w98se, 2.26 GHz 533MHz FSB, with 1 Gig Ram and a Ti4600 card, and guess what, I'm ready to throw it into the Pacific Ocean. I cannot stand it! It takes 92 seconds to boot up, and it's using a RAID card with two 7200 RPM HD in striped mode!!!!
Windows98se isn't that reliable. I know it.. I'm using it! :-(
By the way, have you tried
Amiga Forever 5.1 (http://cloanto.com/amiga/forever/)
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Wow Helgis75,
Honest, this is a shock! I mean it!
I just read something from you in some other thread and thought by my self "Hey, Helgis75! Nice!"
And now I'm reading this!
OK, I didn't choose the AmigaOne. I made my decision months ago. But for you, to think this way at this moment? Just wait a moment longer.
I am (hopefully) certain OS4 will come in a few months now (I'm guessing May-June).
In the end you'll have to follow your own instincts ofcourse.
Spidey
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We had a wave of the Norwalk virus. Very nasty! So I understand how crazy things are with the Pneumonia virus there.
Everything is fine here, its spring break, and the weather is very nice. :-D
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@Hegis75
Don't go for XP. They got some wierd licencing going on starting from XP and Win2k SP3.
Using those two gives MS the right to practially access your machine at any time they feel like it.
Oh, and resently some nice german guys cracked the windows update thingy. It turns out that MS gets your entire registry database ever time you connect. And XP/Win2k SP3 has this "check for updates every week" set as default. Bet CIA don't have as exact info about the world as MS does. :-D
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Atheist: I almost though I was the only one with a nicely specced x86 on the side :-)
Turn off the virtual memory. You find it in settings/system/advanced/advanced/virtual mem. Or something like that. There are no drawbacks unless you use Photoshop which refuse to start without VM.
To avoid crashes stop using IE. Dunno if it's networking related or browser related but my setup has been rock stable and the only difference between me and the rest of the world
is that I don't have my x86 connected to the internet. The only time it has ever crashed is when I tried to play some weird old 16-bit games with screenmodes not supported by my Matrox Parhelia512 graphics board (kaboom!).
The general performance of XP just suck! I mean the Parhelia is probably the hottest 2D hardware out there and XP still suffers from bad timing and sluggishness. Redhat isn't much better either.
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Well, i just hope my wait is worth it. I don't know. I had a little argue with Ben Herman. Haven't heard much from Fleecy at the moment, and Eyetech isn't answering my mails...
You know, i wish i could believe these people responsible for the Amigas' future, but then again...i don't believe it before i see it...Delays after delays, i'm so sick of it...even that the delays were for good reasons...April is the last change! If not, then i get pissed off..and then i have no choice but to leave the Amiga...
The fate is in your hands, Mr Amiga...
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Well, i just hope my wait is worth it. I don't know. I had a little argue with Ben Herman. Haven't heard much from Fleecy at the moment, and Eyetech isn't answering my mails...
How have things gone for you checking out the Pegasos?
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@ Agafaster:
"talk to Eyetech, Hyperion themselves for what to believe in, not what some dope (me included) says on some web page. (better yet, get a copy of Total Amiga !)"
Eyetech advert in the latest Total Amiga: "Earlybird systems are now shipping"
Alan Redhouse in the latest Total Amiga: "volume shipments of A1XE/G4-800's are starting in earnest at the time of writing ... However, as we individually test each board before shipping ... some of you may still not have received your system by the time this issue hits the mailbox. Don't worry, your A1 will arrive soon."
The time of writing was about three weeks ago, and as far as I am aware no A1-XE's have been delivered :(
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Hi,
I think the problem right now is that we need OS4 to be out. It's nice to see the hardware being out there but what also counts is the OS. And since no one can tell us when it is there we can only wait. I really understand the frustration some people have.
Coder
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And i could not believe it was you posting this i too am a bit fed up with the wait i ordered my amigaone earlybird motherboared bundle in november. i not worried about waiting i have 2 pc,s that i can use until it turns up and a 133 laptop .if i were you build yourself a pc and avoid xp and get windows 2000 .
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when eytech say they test each board before sending it out this will take a while because if i am right the burn in test of each board should take 24 hours ? :-D
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My current system is a celery 400mhz PC, which only works 90% of the time, and the power supply is dying.
The knockaround 'clunker' I have as a hobby computer is an Athlon 400, bodged together from leftover parts from here and there.
And it does a pretty fine job (all things considered).
I use Linux t - running UAE JIT on it and it has a pretty decent speed (even through X).
Hell I've run AmiWm running Galeon (browser), UAE, and Win98 (in VM ware) on 3 sliding screens for $h!ts and Giggles..
I'm thinking of putting Amithlon on there as well - though I have to look into it a bit more.
cheers.
Siggy
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Another one bites the dust!
I'm surpeised Helgis75!
I'm 5 years thinking about am I going the
right way, and there were lots of fights
in my brain to go or not to go WierdowsPC way!
I'm still on Amiga1200PPC/PCI and I love it!
WOOOOOHOOOO! Am I crazy or what :-D
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I actualy went out and bought an imac was too slow conpared to my A1200 ppc/grex/voodoo but at least i could get around on the net then i bought a new ibook thatt was way faster than the imac so browsing was fun again then ibrowse 2.3 came about now the 1200 kills the ibook on the net so stuff the other comps the amiga still does it better i actualy tried a pc it only lasted 1 month here i got so angry with it crashing and locking up i literaly smased it to peices never again will i own a pc
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The way I look at it, it took Sony ten years to develop the PS1, and the PS2 was several years in the making beyond the PS1. I felt it was foolhearty at best to even expect what is essentially a complete rewrite of an OS to be done before many would lose patience and start in about how long it's taking. The sooner it's finished, the more likely it'll fail to live up to its billing. Badgering Hyperion into releasing it before its ready can only have a negative impact on what you'll end up with at your desk.
I've got a PC. I have it because it's the computer I need, not the computer I want. Like most, I'll buy the one I want as soon as it's available.
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Nicely said, Helgis. It's good to see you're not a
"fundamentalist - amigan" after all. ;) Have you
considered possibly upgrading an older machine for
hobby? I'm still theoretically considering a 4000
project...
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Hello Darth_X,
At the moment, don't have enough for AF 5.1, but, I think I'm going to go for it soon. Full verion CD.
Hello MarkTime,
Many have suggested wy2k, but I already feel burned with w98se, I don't want to go buy another ms piece of junk. I'll just buy an extra piece of Amiga SW.
Hello JetRacer,
I have a 400 Meg ram disk going, and tried to put the virtual ram (you mean swap file, right) there, it wasn't selectable as an option. I ran the computer both ways, with and without the swap file going, same problem occurred.
AmigaOne! These problems will soon be gone, from grief to relief!
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Sadly, atheist, I feel that windows 98 is the best home Windows version available for PC, unless you have a computer fast enough to handle windows Xp (technically even a 486 can run it, but you need over a Ghz and plenty of RAM or it will be very slow) . I've never had that bad of an experience with NT 4, but I've never used that at home... which is where the heavy use gets going.
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If you want to use windows then i recommend Windows 2000 pro as that is the only version M$ did a good job with and it runs rock stable here.
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I agree with Paul on this one. W2K is bulletproof. I've been using it for over a year now and have never seen a blue screen once, not to mention that I've only had a forced OS scandisk twice and that was 'cos I was setting up my Linux partition.
Wait for the A1 and AOS4 or get at Peggie and MOS. I support what these guy's are doing, but I never got my money back that I 'invested' in the boxer, even though it wasn't alot. Pardon me for being skeptical, but we're Amigans. It hasn't been safe waters since the early 90's. :-D
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If you want a PC, put Linux on it and have a dual-boot
with Window98. I only use the Windows side for some
games and to run my Canon scanner. All the work I cannot
do on the Amiga, I do in Linux, and it's no problem at all. I
spend perhaps 1% of my computer time in Windows, and
then it's mostly five minute runs to get things done before
exporting to Linux/Amiga for the actual work.
At any rate, the AOne-XE will be an improvement over the
400MHz box I have currently. I have no problum playing
around with Debian for a while if it should come to that.
@Helgis75
You sure seem to be a rollercoaster kind of a guy. I don't
know how many times we told you (during your "happy
rally" of excited postings some time back) that you
shouldn't go taking the predictions - not to mention rumors
- of quick delivery as iron-clad facts to get all worked up
over, over and over again. Deliveries slip, that's
a fact of life. As I recall, you also bought a whole lot of
hardware prematurely - no wonder you start getting
desperate.
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SlimJim