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Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga Marketplace => Topic started by: motrucker on August 08, 2005, 03:05:25 PM

Title: Siamese System
Post by: motrucker on August 08, 2005, 03:05:25 PM
I still have a Siamese System 2.0 setup for sale. This is the older version, with the video switcher card. Much better video control than the newer SS 2.5, but also was much more costly.
I am open to a fair offer.
Can ship it almost anywhere.
This is still in the original box, with all cables, disks and the manual (in English & German)- like new condition

Title: Re: Siamese System
Post by: keropi on August 08, 2005, 06:29:31 PM
what are the specs?
Title: Re: Siamese System
Post by: motrucker on August 09, 2005, 11:16:47 PM
Here is some info on the system:
http://www.users.dircon.co.uk/~pnolan/siamese.html
Hope this helps

Title: Re: Siamese System
Post by: Chain on August 09, 2005, 11:57:43 PM
very expensive WinUAE :-D
Title: Re: Siamese System
Post by: on August 10, 2005, 12:10:56 AM
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motrucker wrote:
I still have a Siamese System 2.0 setup for sale. This is the older version, with the video switcher card. Much better video control than the newer SS 2.5, but also was much more costly.
I am open to a fair offer.
Can ship it almost anywhere.
This is still in the original box, with all cables, disks and the manual (in English & German)- like new condition



How does ten bob sound to you? ;-)
Title: Re: Siamese System
Post by: Cyberus on August 10, 2005, 01:01:37 AM
10 shillings? Aye, that sounds grand....
Title: Re: Siamese System
Post by: adolescent on August 10, 2005, 01:28:20 AM
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Chain wrote:
very expensive WinUAE :-D


:-? Nothing to do with WinUAE.  More like VNC and SMB.
Title: Re: Siamese System
Post by: motrucker on August 26, 2005, 07:20:57 PM
I am amazed so few Amiga users know what the Siamese System is.
Title: Re: Siamese System
Post by: krize on August 26, 2005, 07:52:38 PM
Well it didnt get very popular, as you said it was expensive...

Tell us more about it, why this over the new winuae ?
Title: Re: Siamese System
Post by: adolescent on August 26, 2005, 08:38:49 PM
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krize wrote:
Well it didnt get very popular, as you said it was expensive...

Tell us more about it, why this over the new winuae ?


It has nothing to do with WinUAE or emulation at all.  Read the details in the link provided above.

I personally have the 2.5 software only package.  I rarely used the RTG features but they seemed to work fine for Workbench friendly apps.  I use the MountPC function all the time.  For me, it's much more reliable than using SMB (and easier to setup).
Title: Re: Siamese System
Post by: motrucker on August 27, 2005, 07:00:55 PM
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adolescent wrote:

I personally have the 2.5 software only package.  I rarely used the RTG features but they seemed to work fine for Workbench friendly apps.  I use the MountPC function all the time.  For me, it's much more reliable than using SMB (and easier to setup).



This hardware version works extremely well. Price was a serious point though, this thing orginally sold for $329.00 US. I think that was its undoing.

BYW - I just sold this unit.
Title: Re: Siamese System
Post by: adolescent on August 27, 2005, 07:50:08 PM
Yeah, I got the software only for $150.  The ISA card looked nice, but now I wouldn't have a computer that could use it.  As it stands the dongle and software required for the 2.5 still works with XP, but I don't know how long that will last.  (or how long I can still find computers with lpt ports)
Title: Re: Siamese System
Post by: motrucker on August 31, 2005, 08:20:47 PM
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adolescent wrote:
Yeah, I got the software only for $150.  The ISA card looked nice, but now I wouldn't have a computer that could use it.  As it stands the dongle and software required for the 2.5 still works with XP, but I don't know how long that will last.  (or how long I can still find computers with lpt ports)


I used the Siamese card in a new Asus mobo machine, using an add on card to add two ISA slots to one of the PCI. They are sort of rare, but do exsist. I used it with Windoze 2000 Pro with no trouble. Never tried it on the XP machine.
Title: Re: Siamese System
Post by: musashi on August 31, 2005, 10:01:42 PM
Hi,

My first post here on amiga.org after reading lost in the last months.

Reason for replying is Motrucker's remark about a pci card that adds two isa slots to a pc. A few days ago I got two catweasel cards, one for a a4000 and one catweasel isa for the pc. Couldn't find pci to isa converters on the net. Could you point me in the right direction? Would love to get that old card working on my pc.

Musashi
Title: Re: Siamese System
Post by: motrucker on September 02, 2005, 08:20:10 PM
I bought mine locally at a small, used computer parts/electronics store. The only adapters I have found are toooo expensive new, but here is a link to show you what to look for;
http://www.cyberresearch.com/store/computer-accessories-pc-peripherals/bus-adapters-expansion-chassis/PRO_700_3228.2.htm
I paid $35.00 for a slightly older version of this.
There are others out there too, it just a lot of looking....
Title: Re: Siamese System
Post by: cv643d on September 03, 2005, 12:27:07 AM
Siamese is a mystery like the Draco.

The Draco was a true Amiga clone that could very well have become a great alternative to a normal Amiga. But it become a nische product only for video producers.

The Siamese is actually really cool when you read about it. Makes you wonder why it didnt evolve and become better known and widespread.
Title: Re: Siamese System
Post by: countzero on September 03, 2005, 04:13:22 AM
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cv643d wrote:

The Siamese is actually really cool when you read about it. Makes you wonder why it didnt evolve and become better known and widespread.


from what I've read in another forum (http://amigaworld.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=4083&forum=2), it has serious bugs and not very usable. that's why I changed my mind buying it.
Title: Re: Siamese System
Post by: adolescent on September 03, 2005, 06:27:49 AM
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countzero wrote:
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cv643d wrote:

The Siamese is actually really cool when you read about it. Makes you wonder why it didnt evolve and become better known and widespread.


from what I've read in another forum (http://amigaworld.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=4083&forum=2), it has serious bugs and not very usable. that's why I changed my mind buying it.


Besides the RTG, which I haven't used enough to notice majore problems, it's perfectly stable.  I've installed OS3.5 using it on my A1200 before I had a CD-ROM.  For me, it's been much more reliable than Samba.    
Title: Re: Siamese System
Post by: Darrin on September 03, 2005, 10:06:39 AM
I've been using Siamese v2.5 for years.  I originally used it to retarget the graphics on my Amiga 1200 to my (then) Pentium 1 Win95 desktop, using the PC as a graphics card to display a nice 1024x768 workbench on the PC monitor.

I still use it now with my A3000 to share drives with my P4 WinXP machine and to access the PC drives.  As my A3000 doesn't have it's own CD ROM drive, I installed OS3.5 by inserting the CD in my PC and accessing it through Siamese just as if it was connected to the Amiga.

It also has a few nifty features like allowing you to share one mouse and keyboard between the 2 machines and using the printer connected to the PC to print from the Amiga.

I've only used it over a serial link, but if your Amiga has a ethernet port then it should really fly.

Never used the old hardware Siamese, but it really is good software and a real shame that it was never developed beyond v2.5.
Title: Re: Siamese System
Post by: motrucker on September 03, 2005, 09:24:23 PM
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countzero wrote:
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cv643d wrote:

The Siamese is actually really cool when you read about it. Makes you wonder why it didnt evolve and become better known and widespread.


from what I've read in another forum (http://amigaworld.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=4083&forum=2), it has serious bugs and not very usable. that's why I changed my mind buying it.


You will always find people who can't get something to work, and blame the problems on the product. That's not always the case however. I've used Siamese 2.0 with the switcher card  for years with no serious problems. I still use it actually, I have one unit I will not sell.