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Operating System Specific Discussions => Amiga OS => Amiga OS -- Development => Topic started by: Ratto on March 18, 2003, 12:26:36 PM

Title: Shell, and editor
Post by: Ratto on March 18, 2003, 12:26:36 PM

Hello boys,

I have some question...

I program c++, and i use goldED for editing.....
But I need a decent shell for compiling, anyone of you can suggest a good amiga shell for me  :-D ?

And, there is a port of Emacs for amiga, if exist, were i can find it and how to install, i've tried from aminet, but i have a lot of trubble to install emacs, but i really need it.....

Thanks a lot...

Amiga rulez

Ratto             - www.rknet.it -

Title: Re: Shell, and editor
Post by: whabang on March 18, 2003, 12:32:33 PM

There is a small version of EMACS called MEMACS with OS 2 and up.
I don't know how good it is compared to real EMACS, but I think it's nice for simple  text editing.

Title: Re: Shell, and editor
Post by: xeron on March 18, 2003, 12:34:11 PM

Personally, I really hate MicroEMACS, but then I hate EMACS, too.

As for shells, its GOT to be KingCON. It hasn't been updated for years, and yet still theres nothing to touch it.

Title: Re: Shell, and editor
Post by: Varthall on March 18, 2003, 12:37:07 PM

Quote

I program c++, and i use goldED for editing.....
But I need a decent shell for compiling, anyone of you can suggest a good amiga shell for me  :-D ?

I'm very happy with ZShell 2.9:

ftp://de.aminet.net/pub/aminet/util/shell/ZShell.lha

It has tab completion, it's small and it has a good command history. Get it.

Varthall

Title: Re: Shell, and editor
Post by: Dietmar on March 18, 2003, 02:44:48 PM

If you are using GoldED, what would be the purpose of a good shell ?! You just click on make. I wouldn't want to get into messy things like compiler command lines. Since you have mentioned C++, you must be using either SAS/C, gcc or StormC. All these compilers are directly supported by recent GoldED versions: compiler options are set via dialogs, and make and run and debug are mouse clicks. Errors appear in a message browser and are clickable. I haven't used a shell in ages for compiling.

Title: Re: Shell, and editor
Post by: xaccrocheur on March 18, 2003, 04:51:47 PM

Yep , GoldED is really good. Now if you NEED emacs, witch I really can understand, you are stuck, memacs has nearly NOTHING to do with emacs (it's not open source, for start) it's not that same code, well.

What would be REALLY cool would be, on the Amiga OS, what they did 4 windows with CygWIN (http://www.cygwin.com/) : All the (core of) GNU environment available ! BASH, GCC, LS, tab completion, history, everything !

Now, for the shell, I was wondering exactly the same. I remember KingCON, I was *very* impressed when I 1st saw it, in fact I discovered CLI with KingCON back in 1996 (the day windows 95 got out in France :-))
 Reading that it is no longer developed makes me sad  :-(

Someone said ezShell ? I'll try it out. Are there any other GOOD shells out there ?

I remember reading an OLD interview of Fred Fish (God bless him) saying that he nearly completed the port of BASH. was he talking about Linux68K, in witch he was quite involved ? Or a REAL port ?

I found the magazine, I have it here on my lap. It's very unclear as to what this BASH really is.

I mean, I *love* BASH  :-D

pX

Title: Re: Shell, and editor
Post by: carls on March 18, 2003, 05:59:54 PM

@xaccrocheur

Geek Gadgets is a port of many GNU apps and utils for AmigaOS. It's similar to CygWin, perhaps not as advanced. I personally don't like CygWin. Like someone said; "It combines the user-friendlyness of UNIX with the stability of Windows" :-)

Among the GG apps is a port of Emacs. But to be honest, the Amiga versions of Emacs and Emacs-clones are quite bad. They're not nearly as good as the Emacs for X (not XEmacs!) and Emacs for Win32 versions.