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Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga Marketplace => Topic started by: icbrkr on July 20, 2005, 07:39:01 PM
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Just got myself an Amiga 3000 (for free! :)). Surprisingly, it works. Now I'm looking for some parts:
Any non-coax Ethernet card. 10BT is fine, I just need something to transfer files to this things.
A 1-4GB SCSI drive, 50 pin. The 50MB drive just isn't going to cut it for long :)
An external SCSI CDROM drive.
Anyone have something like this lying around?
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you will find that stuff on eBay, no problem.
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I found most of such stuff at the local computerrecycling center.
E-Bay is also a possiblity, but mostly overpriced.
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I've got an external SCSI 1X caddy CD-ROM that might work with an Amiga (I'll check tonight), I've probably got an appropriate SCSI hard drive too.
Do you have anything you'd be willing to trade for these?
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I know that this phrase is used and old, however and here goes :-) remember to change the battery!
You can get a brand new X-Surf3 ethernet 10Mbit twisted-pair for about 100$
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I'll admit I don't have anything to trade since I normally deal with old console games/accessories when it comes to trades.
I'm up for paying cash though if it's reasonable.
I've *removed* the battery as it was starting to leak, but hadn't gotten to the motherboard yet. I'll add a replacement later :)
I might pick up a A2065 card w/RJ45 or an Amiganet card since I found both for fairly cheap (around $50). The Xsurf is about 135 at Softhut and that's just too much for an ethernet card.
Other A3000 questions while I'm at it:
The kickstart appears to be on the HD instead of a ROM chip.
How do you upgrade something like this to 3.1? Should I just softkick it?
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Got the HD from Ebay for a whopping dollar :) 4.3GB should be enough.
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Even if it's being softkicked there still is going to be a physical kickstart ROM. Probably best to just replace that.
If you still want the CD-ROM drive I'd be willing to take cash or a trade for some console game or accessory. I've still got all my classic systems hooked up and collect more stuff when I get the chance. It's probably not worth all that much. Make me an offer. I'll check to make sure it works okay before I go to bed tonight.
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icbrkr wrote:
Got the HD from Ebay for a whopping dollar :) 4.3GB should be enough.
You'll have problems unless you stay under 4 gig on the HD
unless you use another file system (not FastFile System).
(I've not had any luck trying to use just the first
4 gigs on a larger HD)
Also you have the Softkick (ver 37.xx roms), you can
softkick the 3.1 rom file if you can find the correct
file (I used to have it but I lost it in a HD crash).
It will require the kick file with the bonus code.
Not just any kick file will work, it has to be that one.
And you can't use an accelerator with those roms.
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I plan on formatting it with 1GB partitions like I do my A1200. BTW, how can I tell if I have the real kickstart ROMs or a file? The motherboard seems too new to have softkick files but when it boots it states on a yellow text on blue screen that it's kicking 2.1 and rebooting.
MskoDestny: anything on my online store is up for trade (www.epochgames.com). Some items might be missing since I did a game expo recently and haven't updated it. These are my "extras" (I have over 2,500 carts/CDs :) Hit the webpage for pics).
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@icbrkr : about that Xsurf again, it´s not just an ordinary network card but also includes an IDE controller and an expansion port for Individual Computers parts like a serial port or so. On Ebay you are supposed to find those cards for 80 USD ...
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Effy: I know, I just don't think I'm up to that point yet :) I just want to transfer some files over to the Amiga. We'll see how serious I am about the system later.
And it appears your friend Doomy still reads here:
From: retrogeek@comcast.net
Subject: Enquiry from Epoch Games
Date: July 20, 2005 10:04:12 PM CDT
To: sales@epochgames.com
The stupid {bleep}s on Amiga Org will not be able to help you with your Amiga 3000 problems, but I can. I own 2 Amiga 3000 computers and they work great. It sounds like you have one of the old Amiga 3000s which has the Kickstart 1.4 Bootstrap ROMs on a \"ROM-Tower\". In order to get this Amiga 3000 to work, you must do the following:
1 - Use another Amiga computer to format the hard drive. The device name MUST be WB_2.x
2 - Next, install Workbench and copy an Amiga 3000 Kickstart Image file to the Devs directory
3 - Now, take this hard drive and put it into your Amiga 3000 computer. It should work just fine.
You can also buy and install a set of Amiga 3000 Kickstart 3.1 ROMs, but be prepared to spend between $50 to $100 for them. If you need the Amiga 3000 Kickstart Image file and the Amiga 3000 Super Kickstart disk, I would be willing to trade them to you for your Sega Genisis Phantasy Star III cartridge.
Sincerely,
The DoomMaster
PS: Do not believe everything you hear about me on Amiga Org. Most of those guys are dumb stupid {bleep}s and Wayne \"The {bleep}\" Hunt hates anyone that becomes more popular then himself. When I was on Amiga Org, I was one of the most popular guys there, because I actually helped people with their Amiga problems. So, if you really need help with your Amiga problems, just contact me :)
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icbrkr wrote:
Doomy wrote:
The stupid {bleep}s on Amiga Org will not be able to help you with your Amiga 3000 problems, but I can. I own 2 Amiga 3000 computers and they work great. It sounds like you have one of the old Amiga 3000s which has the Kickstart 1.4 Bootstrap ROMs on a \"ROM-Tower\".
I don't think any A3000 ever shipped with 1.4 roms.
To my knowledge they either shipped with OS 2.xx or
the softkick OS 37.xx roms (my A3000 came with 37.xx roms).
(Hmmm is the ver 37.xx roms actually KS 1.4 ? )
You can listen to Doomy if you want but I think it would
be a mistake. Most of the info you get here on the Org is
very reliable.
If you don't have the SuperKickStart disk I can EMail
you a DMS copy of it.
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When I was on Amiga Org, I was one of the most popular guys there, because I actually helped people with their Amiga problems.
Yeah right, that made the laugh of the day.
Doomys vocabulary:
Helping out = tell people their hardware is crap, and bad mouthing them at the same time :)
Nevermind, passing on.....
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No problem, I had no intentions of listening to him. I just figured we could all use a good laugh. His now private ebay feedback speaks volumes about him.
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Just got myself an Amiga 3000 (for free! :)).
I'm uber jealous!!!! :-? :-( :pissed:
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Methuselas wrote:
Just got myself an Amiga 3000 (for free! :)).
I'm uber jealous!!!! :-? :-( :pissed:
You're not the only one.... Darn.... :-P
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icbrkr wrote:
Just got myself an Amiga 3000 (for free! :)).
:-o :-o :-o :-o :-o
I'd like to get an A3000 but on ebay they usually go for at least £250!!!
srg
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One was on eBay for £150 the other day there, still a lot of cash though :-(
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The free Amiga 3000 was posted on a forum along with some other stuff, all listed free, just pay shipping. I ended up snagging the A3000 (which has 2MB chip + 4MB Fast), and a CDTV with 2 remotes.
:D
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This Doomey bloke is a real moron.
He's more interested in slandering people other than helping them and the advice he gives is just garbage.
People who buy a 3000 may not even have another AMIGA to format anything, oh why am I bothering! that guy is beyond a joke, someone should stop him. People who are serious about amiga info need to know where to go for help and this nufty keeps them away from it.
I'd like to shove a computer ...........
I'm really sorry all. That just jerked my chain.
Formatting AMIGA HD's is really very simple, you don't even need a large HDD as most AMIGA programs are quite small thanks in large to the OS and structure. Yes, you can use big disks with an AMIGA, it can be a little fiddly, perhaps Wayne can pop up a Trouble Shooting AMIGA link on his page with fixes for various problems, I'm sure all of us would be willing to donate a small bit to help him with his time.
This is the simplest and probably cheapest way to set up your HDD.
Grab an old cheap 500MB hdd. You could probably get them for under $10 . Pop in your workbench disks and use HDtoolbox to set it up, format and whatever.
I say this because
A) It's a good idea to leave your OS drive alone and not decorate it with all sorts of guff.
B) It save all the heartache if something goes wrong, easier to recover etc etc...
C) you can then whap on a drive as big as you like on to the cable along with it.
No need to worry about DMA and access times etc etc as the Miggi can't do the DMA transfers and will use PIO regardless so the HDD speed shouldn't be affected by the older IDE.
As for SCSI, same goes.
I quite happily run my OS all the libs etc on a 340MB SCSI and I have a nice 30Gig drive for all my movies apps etc.
More than once I have had to recover my OS drive and every time I was thankful I had an easy way to do it as it was all OS complient.
Yes , if you really have to have just that one big drive you can fiddle with scsi.device and patches to get it working, you'll need OS 3.1 from memory to do it and even then, it's still a little fiddly.
There are plenty of posts here that can help you if you go looking.
Best of luck to ya. Someone kill doom. I used to love that game, now I wish I could frag him. Maybe there's a way to render a monster with his head on it.
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Anyone else feel like signing Doomy up for some pr0n? I've got some more nice unsolicitated email from the {bleep}. I love how you're supposed to take anyone seriously while they're cussing at you in email. There's obviously some confusion on his part, the A3000 is up and running just great.
From: retrogeek@comcast.net
Subject: Enquiry from Epoch Games
Date: July 25, 2005 3:27:31 AM CDT
To: sales@epochgames.com
Hey you stupid {bleep}, if you would have done what I told you to do in the first place, instead of bad mouthing me on Amiga Org, your Amiga 3000 computer would be up and running by now. I tried to help you and I even offered to mail you the disks you need, but you had to be a red neck asshole about it. As I told you, most of the people on Amiga Org do not know what they are talking about when it comes to the Amiga computer. The only other person besides myself that does know a lot about the Amiga computers is TJLazer from Tacoma, Washington. He owns just about every type of Amiga and Atari ST computer ever made and so do I. In fact, I did actually work for Commodore. I have been playing video games since PONG and I have been working with computers since 1982. So yes, I do know a lot about them and you would be wise to listen to what I have to say. Now, SHUT YOUR STUPID MOUTH AND JUST MAYBE YOU WILL LEARN SOMETHING! One more time, if you want to get a hard drive to work
on an Amiga 3000 that has the Kickstart 1.4 (Boot Strap) ROMs, you MUST do the following:
1 - Use another Amiga to format and partition the hard disk. The Device Name MUST be WB_2.x
2 - Install Workbench 2.04 or 2.1 and copy an Amiga 3000 Kickstart Image file to the Devs directory
3 - Now mount this hard drive into your Amiga 3000 and it should work just fine.
4 - Install the rest of your Amiga software as you normally would.
ALL \"Boot Strap\" Amiga 3000 Kickstart ROMs are version 1.4. Later Amiga 3000s were released with the real Kickstart 2.04 ROMs. The Kickstart 3.1 ROMs for the Amiga 3000 were only available as an option.
Please note, you can also use the Super Kickstart disk to format the hard drive, but the above method works better and is much more reliable. I have an Amiga 2000 in my shop that I use for prepping and formatting hard drives that go into my customers Amiga 3000 computers.
Next time, before you talk {bleep} about me, you had better do your {bleep}ing homework, you little piece of {bleep}!
Sincerely,
The DoomMaster
From: sales@epochgames.com
Subject: Re: Enquiry from Epoch Games
Date: July 25, 2005 6:38:27 AM CDT
To: retrogeek@comcast.net
Thanks for your email. All future emails from you will be ignored, and placed nicely in my spam/kill file. And while you're at it, go {bleep} yourself.