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Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga Hardware Issues and discussion => Topic started by: Gav on June 30, 2005, 02:28:46 AM
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Hi
Ok after much hard work and serious problems recently with ata3 software and them my whole os3.9 boot partition needing a fresh install i have questions.Well since ive never been able to get the iomega ide zip drive to work under trackdisk.device like it says in the manual.Elbox say it doesnt need a mountlist if it is formatted in ffs but then others tell me it does.So now with a fresh install im open to hearing if anyone on here actually has a zip drive working with a powerflyer and how they actually did it or if they use a mountlist or not.In the ata3prefs my zip drive is master on channel two and it appears in HD toolbox also.
My drive works because i tried it in my pc although even though i did re install 3.9 i still cant get any latest powerflyer software to work other than the original one i used which was 6.3 or something.
Well i hope this time things work out as its been so annoying and even elbox cant seem to help me out from the looks of things.
Thanks....
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Im so sick of this crap with power flyers and zip drives and elbox not even having a clue about it.The drive acts like a hard disk if i change the tool type to scsi.device but of course i cant change disks unless i switch the machine off.If i change it to trackdisk.device nothing happens there with that.If i do what the great manual says and not put a mountlist in the dos drivers folder then nothing happens there either.Then to top it off the new version of ata3.driver doesnt work for me and all my partitions vanish apart from three.I replace the old driver and then they all come back,yesterday for some reason my drive just totally crashed and i couldnt get in to it at all after mucking around with all that ata3 crap.So then that called for me to do a fresh install which i thought might be best anyways.But yeah nothing has changed and my partitions still vanish and the same problems with the zip drive.Ive really had it i mean i have been trying to figure this out for ages and people tell me to install it diffrent ways so i dont even get a simple response there either.It makes me wonder at times why i bother but i still try and figure it out but for all teh hassle it has caused me maybe i should just quit with amiga for a few month......
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Cartridge drives can either be given a mountlist, or have an RDB installed on them.
Since you are seeing the drive in HDToolbox, it should just be a simple matter of hitting the "Install" button to prep the disk.
Alternatively, see SYS:Storage/DOSDrivers. 3.9 comes with a file called ZIP and another called ZIC. ZIP is a mountlist for FFS Zip disks, ZIC is one for CrossDOS disks. Adjust the device/unit info to match. I think it's in the ToolTypes. It'll be whatever the device name of the PowerFlyer is, unit 2. IOTools in SYS:Tools might be useful, too.
EDIT:
If the PowerFlyer uses scsi.device, it's going to conflict with the scsi.device in the 1200's ROM. One or the other will probably be renamed to 2nd.scsi.device. Adding
SKIPROMMODULES scsi.device
to your Setpatch line in the startup-sequence might help. You also might want to download the IDEFix package - there's a tool in there called FindDevice which will give you a scan of everything on your IDE buses. Might give you a clear picture of how exactly everything's configured.
Also, have you installed BB2? There's a new version of the NSDPatch.cfg in it that may help with your missing partitions. It's not activated by default, so you'll have to rename Devs:NSDPatch.cfg-BB2 (or whatever it's called) to plain NSDPatch.cfg. Be sure to back up the old one, just in case.
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Thanks for the reply.
WEell i hit the install button and it installs the drive but then it just acts like a hard drive so i cant remove a disk...
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Why can't you remove the disk? What happens?
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Eject the zip disk, install a new one.. reboot the amiga
that should work, because the boot sequence will pickup the new RDB on the newly inserted disk and act as if you have just installed a new harddrive
make sure you pre-prep all your zip disks identically with hdtoolbox
after that you should always be able to reboot after swapping disks and get any info on/off them
Az
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Well yeah i know i can do that but thats the thign though according to elbox you can change disks while the computer is on.
Well when i remove the disk the icon stays on the screen so if insert a new one it doesnt appear.
Cheers
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Ah. That's an easy fix. Load up mounter in SYS:Tools and just remount the device. I had to do that all the time when I swapped out SyQuest cartridges on my A500 many years ago. Some drive controllers can detect those changes automatically, but others can't, including this one, it seems.
Consider IOTools as well, since it's specifically designed to work with Zip drives.
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Ive really had it i mean i have been trying to figure this out for ages and people tell me to install it diffrent ways so i dont even get a simple response there either.
Well, the reason that you haven't gotten a simple answer is because there is no simple answer, have you thought about that?
It would be like someone asking why their computer doesn't boot, without giving more information than that; there can be many reasons, and most of them aren't simple ones.
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@ Doctorq
Well that doesnt compare realyl because its not like ive just asked something stupid like,why is my zip not working.I have went in to detail god knows how many times even to elbox who dont even have an answer about there own software.
@MattH
Well i tried what you said abotu the mount and the first time i clicked on it nothing happend really.Then the drive just locked up after a few attempts and then the second time it just says,rigid disk block not found.
Well i will try anything that people tell me but im starting lose hope because the fact is according to elbox it should work right away without any mountlist.
Cheers
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You are right; it should work straight out of the box. Just attach it, install the ata3.driver (really important) and it should work.
However! I had the same problem you had with partitions disappearing if I ran the driver so I had to disable it.
Does "diskchange " work for you?
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Mounter and IOTools both require the device name to be set in ToolTypes. Make sure it's correct.
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@ Matt
Which should be trackdisk.device,correct??? iotools asks me what buffer size my controller is so how do i find that out??
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What about this disk change?put that in startup or something?could you tell me a little more and what exaclty to write?
Cheers
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You need to go into the shell and type 'diskchange ZIP:' where ZIP is the name of your drive.
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Gav wrote:
@ Matt
Which should be trackdisk.device,correct??? iotools asks me what buffer size my controller is so how do i find that out??
No, not trackdisk.device - that's the device for the internal floppy. If the PowerFlyer does claim to allow a Zip drive to be mounted under that device name, it's got to be a nasty hack and can't be very system friendly or stable. It's probably scsi.device or 2nd.scsi.device. Use that FindDevice tool I mentioned earlier to scan all your drive buses and see where your Zip drive is.
As for the buffer size, I'd suggest leaving it at the default value. I'm not really sure about that one. Maybe someone else reading knows?
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@ MattH
Yeah thats what elbox also tell me in there emails that hot swapping is only supported by trackdisk.device....
Well the default size is 0x0 in iotools which is why it asks me the size but i have no idea...
Well its past 5am here so i will see how it goes tomorrow but if anyone has anything to add here then please do.
Thanks for all the help so far...
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They may have meant that the only device in the system that supports hot swapping is trackdisk.device, not that hot swapping is enabled by using trackdisk.device for the Zip drive.
Could another PowerFlyer owner verify this?
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@MattH
In the manual it say media such as ls120 and zip drives that you must change the tooltype to trackdisk.device.Then they tell you how the powerflyer/ata3.driver should automount the zip drive using trackdisk.device...
Cheers
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I agree with Matt_H that the ZiP drive can't want to use
trackdisk.device and what Elbox meant was that trackdisk.device is the
only method inbuilt into ROM of hotswapping. Floppies on Amiga do
10K/s whereas a ZiP would do 100K/s at least!
I use the Blizzard SCSI-IV interface and when you attach a new device
to that you have to select `Rescan' from the UnitControl tool. This
forces the SCSI bus to look again at what it's talking to, be it
scanners or a CD-ROM drive.
Doesn't BlizKick support hot swapping of ZiP disks? I've never used it
so can't say if it'd work on a PowerFlyer machine. Doubt it though.
Just out of curiosity, do you have your ZiP drive mounted in place of
the floppy drive? I've always wondered if that could be done (in a
desktop case that is).
As for LS120, now that would be problematic as it must use the floppy
header and not the IDE header as it has to be able to read standard
floppies as well as 120Mb super-floppies. Must be hideously slow but I
do remember Eyetech selling them once so they must be compatible with
Amigas (in which case they'd have to use trackdisk.device wouldn't
they?)
I'm mystified why you went for the Power Flyer over the Surf
SQUIRREL though... ;-) ;-) ;-)
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Hyperspeed wrote:
As for LS120, now that would be problematic as it must use the floppy
header and not the IDE header as it has to be able to read standard
floppies as well as 120Mb super-floppies. Must be hideously slow but I
do remember Eyetech selling them once so they must be compatible with
Amigas (in which case they'd have to use trackdisk.device wouldn't
they?)
Nope, the LS120 is an internal IDE device.According to some reviews, it's floppy speed is 5x that of a standard floppy drive.
But from what I remember reading a review in an amiga mag many years ago, you can't use Amiga filesystems with it.
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Matt_H wrote:
No, not trackdisk.device - that's the device for the internal floppy. If the PowerFlyer does claim to allow a Zip drive to be mounted under that device name, it's got to be a nasty hack and can't be very system friendly or stable.
Yes it's a hack,but I wouldn't call it unstable or unfriendly, certainly no worse than IDEFix etc.
It patches trackdisks open function, and checks the unit number.
If it's 0-3, it goes back to using the normal trackdisk functions for floppy drives, otherwise for 4-7 (ie unit=4+scsi.device unit)it uses it's own routines to translate trackdisk commands into ATAPI ones for the PowerFlyer and 4xIDE Splitter.
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@ Doobrey & Gav
Huh. Well, I stand corrected on the trackdisk.device area. I have complete confidence in Doobrey's hardware knowledge :-).
Try setting the unit to 6, then.
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Matt_H wrote:
I have complete confidence in Doobrey's hardware knowledge :-).
Then you're as mad as a bag of badgers. There's people around here with a lot more experience and knowledge than me, I'm bound to be wrong sooner or later.
AFAIK, Gav said in another thread a month or so ago that he'd tried that and it didn't work, so I'm all out of ideas for a fix.
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Oh i dunno this is a never ending battle of trying to get something simple to work but it wont for some weird reason.I mean really i am feeling a bit like i just am almost losing the fun aspect of using my amiga.With me trying to figure this out for so long i actually forgot the last time i actually used my amiga for something fun.Recently the only reason i have been powering my amiga up is to do tests for elbox or some other reason.Since my drive had crashed i ended up losing a lot of work that i had done such as settings for all my mediator cards.So i have a lot of work to do really which i felt like i just got fed up with it really.I dont know if i could be pushed to sell it and buy myself a new windows box since i am running an old 450mhz pII machine....
Oh well just see how it goes i suppose but cheers for all the help lads even though im still no further forward and elbox havent replied recently.
Cheers
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@ Doobrey
Then you're as mad as a bag of badgers. There's people around here with a lot more experience and knowledge than me, I'm bound to be wrong sooner or later.
Hey, if you can build a FlashROM from scratch and wire in a missing access LED, that seems pretty damn good to me. :-)
@ Gav
Sorry to hear about your frustration. Hope you get things working.
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Hi
The ZIP drive on the Amiga. Great when it works, hopeless, obviously when it doesn`t. Anyway I have the ZIP drive working on an A1200 with Squirrel and 3.9 OS, on an A1200 with 3.0 and a Blizzard plus the SCSI Kit, and on a towered A1200 with 4 way interface running 3.1, so we have a good range here. First thing I would say is that the Power Flyer should auto detect. Which suggests you have a conflict. Secondly I would suggest that your HDToolbox is picking this up as a hard drive... Sadly this can cause probs cus as you have pointed out you can`t swap the disk out while mounted. You can use a bit of software, which is a pig, cus each and every disk has to be named and formatted in exactly the same way.
Not sure if you can use IDEFix on the Powerflyer ( I wouldn`t be without it to be honest )
The way IDEFix gets round this is to put the ZIP on the second channel off the interface and use a mount command in the startup so you C:LoadIDE before the SetPatch on the startup-sequence. I have the CD and the ZIP on the second channel with the two hard drives on the other. ZIP then becomes UNIT 2. IDEFix is a great bit of software and may help. The device becomes an atapi.device. If I recall I had to install the device as an LS120 device using the tool icon that came with IDEFix. ( holds in hand Power Computings 4 Way IDE Buffered Interface ).. Power admit in this document that many devices claiming to be IDE didn`t work together. They certainly recommend using IdeFIX software to use ATAPI devices ( CD ROM, ZIP Drives etc )
.....going on a bit now sorry...
To correctly install and use an LS120 or ZIP drive you must first connect the hardware then run the INSTALL LS120 program. This is usually installed within your IDEFIX97 drawer on your hard drive. You use the same installer for both LS120 and ZIP drives. During the installation process it will open the FindDevice program and should correctly identify the device. You may need to select ATAPI.DEVICE and then click use. When the installer has finished it should have added a new line to your user-startupto mount the drive. You may get two icons appearing PC4 and DF4 - these are two dosdrivers to allow the reading of AMIGA or
PC disks. Tou can prepare either by QUICK format on the appropriate icon
.............. end quote from blurb.
Reading the PowerFlyer stuff it suggests that although an Amiga formatted ZIP will be autodetected a PC ZIP will not. Therefore an appropriate mount file like my ZIC one below will work. However it states that the device name is
device=scsi.device
Interestingly ( also ) the ATA3Prefs will not operate ( ie run ) while the ATA3.driver or any other software colliding with the ATA3.driver ( eg IDEFIX, ASIM.device etc ) is running.
Just a thought, have you got the ZIP set to auto-booting in the ATA3Prefs settings. ( have a play, but restart to make changes work )
Saying all that I have two ZIP mount files in the DEVS drawer one called ZIC for CrossDOS PC ZIPS and the other called ZIP for Amiga disks.
The icon for the ZIC on the 3.9 machine reads
ZIC(Project)
344Bytes
C:Mount
Stack Size 4096
Activate=1
Startup=1
Device=squirrelscsi.device
Unit=5
On the Tower
C:Mount
Activate=1
Startup=1
Device=atapi.device
Unit=2
Using CED or text editor the mount file
read:
FileSystem=L:CrossDOSFileSystem
Flags=0
Surface=1
SectorPerTrack=32
SectorSize=512
Reserved=0
Interleave=0
Buffers=128
BufMemType=1
MaxTransfer=0x01FE0000
Mask=0xFFFFFFC
BootPri=-127
StackSize=8192
Priority=10
DosType=0x4D534400
LowCyl=1
HighCyl=6143
Mount=1
Activate=1
GlobVec=-1
The ZIP File differs to the Mount File
FileSystem=L:FastFileSystem
Flags=0
Surface=1
SectorPerTrack=68
SectorSize=512
Reserved=2
Interleave=0
Buffers=136
BufMemType=1
MaxTransfer=0x001FE000
Mask=0xFFFFFFE
BootPri=-127
StackSize=1024
Priority=10
DosType=0x444F5303
LowCyl=2
HighCyl=2890
Mount=1
Activate=1
GlobVec=-1
..........................
Sounds like you need ZIC but not ZIP
Locate in DEVS:DOSDrivers, if you have
icon then check INFORMATION from drop
down menu to set device to scsi.device
The unit number shouldnt conflict with
any other devices I guess ( the PF manual
doesn`t say though it does say...
Primary Master Unit 0
Primary Slave Unit 1
Secondary Master Unit 2
Secondary Slave Unit 3
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With 3.9 you get the ZIP tools box which
is useful, but the old traditional HDToolbox
has been junked. I liked the old HDToolBox cus
you could edit the ToolType to search for
any kind of device. You simply add lines that
say ( under information search from menu )
SCSI_DEVICE_NAME=xxxx.device
SCSI_MAX_ADDRESS=6
SCSI_MAX_LUN=0
XT_NAME=XT
This kind off interogation tools
method is why I stay under 3.5 ( retro )
Also if you use a tool like SYSINFO
you can check on all the devices and
drives you have mounted.
I junked my PowerFlyer by the way and
simply use the 4 Way interface and IDE-FIX.
The other thing to do is get an SCSI card
and run the SCSI ZIP from this. The ZIP you
have is the IDE version for internal use
is it. ( silly question, sorry )
Mounting the ZIP as a hard drive is hell. You
need to get it reading as a floppy. That is where
your problem lies. Sadly I can`t help you with
the powerflyer, though I do have the manual. To be honest there is very little I don`t have, check out the site.
Have fun sorting your problems. And I wouldn`t blame the manufacturer or supplier. Makes all the more the joy of making it work. You will.
scuzz
http://www.scuzz.org.uk/amiga/a_amiga_inframe.htm
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I can't add much to this other than that I do have both a LS120 and a ZIP drive on my 4 way IDE adapter (plus HD and CD drives). I did have problems setting it up, and spent a lot of time talking to Eyetech at the time. Good luck setting it up, its well worth it (although the LS120 is around 5 times slower than the ZIP on my system !). Oh, and yes, both drives allow disk swapping :-)
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Thanks for the replys people :)
It is so hard because im not sure what i should use?Should i use trackdisk.device or scsi.device?
Well i used the zic file and a drive appears on screen using a Hard drive icon but has a shadow over it and says,Zic:uninitialized..So how would i format this?Second of all how do i find out if the zip actually has an icon to show up on screen???
Then when i try and use iotools and if i click on any function i get the following,Failed to obtain the disk status from the scsi.device,unit 2.
Error : packet request type unknown..now i usualy get tehat same message if i use teh zip dos driver or zic but with trackdisk.device i get nothing at all.
Cheers....
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Bump
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Hi
I hate to say this but I think you have a hardware conflict. I use to get similar problems with an Apollo and a CD ROM. I resolved this by swapping over to a Blizzard and all was fine. What other kit do you have on the machine. Infact give us the whole breakdown of what you are running there. Plus some info on the ZIP drive.. As much info as possible please. I mean the whole darn shooting match.
The icon images are defined in your Prefs/Env-Archive/Sys/ drawer... well they are under 3.1. I use these prefs to self define the action a certain icon instigates by clicking. Like say BMP icon to launch say FastView.
Un-initialising isn`t about the icon. The actual drive has not been mounted, and the disk is not understood. But this could be a hardware conflict.
What do you mean by Bump... or did I miss something.
scuzz-retro
http://www.scuzz.org.uk/amiga/a_amiga_inframe.htm
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Cheers for the reply mate :)
Well my A1200 is as follows,A1200,3.1 rom,Blizzard1260/50mhz,128mb,scsi add on board for blizz,mediator sx,voodoo3,sound blaster128,tv card,network card...My zip drive is a iomega zip 100 ide drive connected to the second channel on my power flyer.My first slot has a 30gb hard drive as master and cdrw as slave.
Thats my whole system right there but also rememebr i cant get the new ata3 software to work either.Oh i just wrote bump to bump my post back on the main board..
Cheers
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I don't have a powerflyer but have used jazz drives with several of my Amigas as well as PCs. The disks were all formatted the same with one partition, so a diskchange was unneeded. The icon never changed but the contents would with a disk swap. Is it really important that the icons and partitions be different? Worked better than ethernet for file sharing large files quickly.
It should work for the zip as well. I never had the zip but did use a Syquest EZ135 on one of my 4000's in the same manner.
Hope it helps.
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@Stew
Well when i eject the disk and change it for another it just comes up "checksum error" when i click the icon so i cant access it like that....
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Hi
You have an SCSI controller on the Blizzard so I would avoid using the scsi device on the ZIC or ZIP tool. I think that, to use the disk your gonna have to set this up as an atapi.device. The other way is to get an SCSI ZIP drive and run it off the SCSI, that way you can define the UNIT No quite clearly. Maybe, just maybe ( long shot ) you have a conflict on the way the Blizzard handles things and your getting two trains crashing in the station. The powerflyer is wanting to treat the ZIP as a hard drive. There is a utility on Aminet called ZIP4MAT if I recall, that gives a good guide on how to use these drives. You have to edit the mount file, but works just fine. I have a ZIP set up like this on an A4000. Problem is my other Amigas won`t see the disks created on the 4000. Sexy icon for the ZIP though, and you have to have the ZIP in the drive on boot. Great for running extra apps. I even have DOPUS set up on the ZIP drive.
To get the ZIP working as you do I think you need IDEFix97, LoadIDE in your startup after the SETPatch, and an atapi.device as the tool type. That way the ZIP is mounted through the DEVS and not through the HDToolBox as hard drive. If you check the HDToolbox it'll scan for devices and I guess it'll find the ZIP when you boot.
The thing the disk is missing is a small file called disk.info. If you check the hard drive on the machine you will find disk.info on each and every partition. Without disk.info on the disk the HD mount on the Amiga will register the disk as uninitialised. The way you get round this is to get the Amiga to read as a floppy. You do this through the DEVS: DOSdriver, but to load an Amiga Disk you would need an actual SCSI driver and device, or an atapi.device.
Long way round the houses but I do believe your gonna struggle. See if you can get hold of ZIP4MAT and format your disks with this. The software will find the disk, even if not showing on the workbench screen. It's a pig but it will work.
Pure SCSI is much better, or IDEFix97 and atapi.device.
Have fun.
scuzz
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Are both disks formatted and named the same?
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Hi
Have had this response from an Amiga guy I know, may help a bit more.
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The Power Flyer differs to the usual 4-way splitters (IDE Express etc.) in
that it physically patches into the Kickstart roms and the Gayle chip, and
it doesn't require IDEFix. The driver is loaded at the start of the
startup-sequence, and lets the A1200 boot in the normal way, then applies the
speed-up patches for the Fast ATA. Four IDE/ATAPI devices can be run from
two channels, without the need for IDEFix software.
It is my understanding that ATAPI devices (CD-Roms. Zips) run without any
special ".device" software on the Flyer, unlike other splitters which use
"atapi.device".
On any Amiga, Zip drives can be used two ways; as fixed hard-drive devices
(as your friend is doing) or by way of the Dosdriver system (as you have
done with Zips and IDEfix). I too have come across the problem of being
unable to eject disks with the drive's eject button. I can't remember the
circumstances, but it may well have been when using "hard-drive" Zip disks.
The answer is, of course, to use the Dosdriver system. OS3.5/9 comes with Zip
dosdrivers. I don't think 3.1 did, can't be sure offfhand as I don't have a
bare installation - I seem to have added 3.9 dosdriver icons on my 3.1 boot
partition.
Anyway, it seems to me that whatever OS your mate is running, it is possible
to load dosdrivers from 3.5/9. Set the tooltypes for "Unit number" to 1 for
primary slave or 3 for secondary slave. I'm pretty sure the device tooltype
will be "scsi.device" since the Flyer patches the roms. In any case, the
Flyer software would include a ".device" if it doesn't use scsi.device, and
the tooltype would be set accordingly.
OS3.5 also includes the IomegaTools software, which can be used to eject
stubborn disks if he prefers to stay with the hard-drive format disks. You
can set up a hotkey with ToolsDaemon, or a button in AmiDock. so that it is
only two clicks to eject a disk.
Hope this helps.
BTW There is supposed to be a very good manual with the PowerFlyer.
[ end quote ]
Well there you go.
scuzz
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As he probably remembers, I've been following Gav's Zip saga for what seems like months now and I really feel for him. I have almost exactly the same A1200 setup and yet I haven't had the slightest problem installing my Zip drive with a PowerFlyer.
The stuff about mountlists and device drivers has been mulled over and over and the poor guy's getting nowhere. I'm far from an expert in any of this stuff, so I just follow the instructions provided by Elbox. Maybe he's simply missed something out somewhere. I don't think he's actually got the manual (?)
I've also read quite a number of posts to Gav on this problem and some of them appear to be quite at odds with the info in the PF manual. Of course, there's probably more than one way to skin this cat, but all the conflicting views on the solution has bemused me, so I can't imagine how scatterbrained Gav must be!
Anyway, have we discussed the Startup Sequence? If so, maybe I missed it, but I think it might be useful if you (Gav) give us sight the S/S you're using.
Cheers,
JaX
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@Gav
Well, since you have a SCSI controller then I maybe have some good news for you. I have a SCSI ZIP drive that I´m giving away, you just have to pay postage.
As I have no ZIP disks I can not test it, so it might not be working, but if you want it, it's yours. If it solves your problems I don't know, but the drive is free of charge.
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By the way, anyone else is free to have it as well :-)
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About the ZIP drive; if noone wants it, it is binned sunday night :-) Have no use for it, and never will get it.
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@ doctorq,
If no one else has claimed the free scsi zip drive, I will gladly pay the postage to have it delivered. Send me a private email here with the postage cost to ship it to zip code 92506 in the USA and we can make arrangements. Thanks
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I don't know if the IDE is different than the SCSI version on Amiga, but for SCSI I have my Amiga disks prepped under hdtoolbox to have RDB, and I use mountlist for PC and Mac formatted disks. The Amiga disks are recognised and can be booted from. Using the DKB Rapidfire or Spitfire the disk changes are detected very nicely and it all feels just like using Amiga floppies. I've heard other cards need more handholding such as a tool to tell the OS when the disk was changed though, I have kept a DKB card in my machines just for use with my Zip drive, even in my A4000T which has much faster SCSI built in the motherboard. If the drive is scanned at boot time you should be able to have an RDB disk recognized at boot time, and use the diskchange notify tool as needed.
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Hi there
Well i have took a break from my amiga as it was just doing my head in with starting from scratch almost.Well the way i see it is that i get an icon on screen under "scsi.device" but not under "trackdisk.device" .
Well i have the zic and zip dos driver in devs and i get a hard drive like icon on screen with a shadow over it saying it is uninitialized.
So if i try and format the disk i get a message saying error 254...So does anyone know what root i should take from here?The zic file is under scsi.device..
Thanks for the offer on the zip drive and i would have taking the offer if i had anymore hardware for my scsi adaptor but at this moment i dont.
Cheers for all the help so far...
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Hi peeps
Well just to let you all know that i was able to back my drive using the demo version of frying pan.Well i installed the new ata3 software and then installed the other partitions that it made vanish.Oh and guess what??Yup still no zip drive so i dont get it really.Is it to be trackdisc.device which i have had no progress with whatever.Then "scsi.device" which makes my zip disks act like a hard drive so in other words cant be removed until i reset..Ha who knows maybe i should just take it that a ide zip drive is turd with a powerflyer and elbox dont have much of an idea also....