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Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga Software Issues and Discussion => Topic started by: leofoe on June 25, 2005, 08:17:45 AM
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I run Infochannel on two A1200's with a TV in our theater for presentation purposes. (One of them 7x24! No problems whatsoever). I use one machine to update the other with ScalaNet. I use a nullmodem-cable. Works most of the time OK.
The problem is to get files on the master A1200 from a PC. Up to now I use CrossDOS-floppies. That is not very handy. So I bought two PCMCIA-network cards and managed to get an A1200 running on my TCP/IP home-network. Before I try this in the theater and install all the cablework I wondered if someone has experience with Infochannel/ScalaNet and TCP/IP. Does it work? Does updating of one machine from the other work?
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Nobody?
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In my opinion Scala InfoChannel is one of the few (if not the only) remaining pieces of software in which the Amiga still outperforms any other platform, at an unsurpassable coast/quality mix.
So I am a little bit disappointed that there appears to be no member on this site (which I consider as the best Amiga-site at the moment, with the most active members), who can shed more light on using this software in a LAN.
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I work for cable TV and have been trying demo version of Scala InfoChannel for windows. What do you think about it? Are there some alternative programs for infochannels?
What is ScalaNet?
I'm not sure what you are trying to do, but maybe smbfs might help you.
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orange wrote:
Are there some alternative programs for infochannels?
What is ScalaNet?
I'm not sure what you are trying to do, but maybe smbfs might help you.
For the Amiga there are a lot of presentation programs like Scala. AmigaVision from Commodore for instance.
Scalanet is a set of plugins for InfoChannel to connect a master Amiga to one or more Amiga Player stations right from within the software. To communicate you can use a modem or nullmodem-cable, but also TCP/IP. I don't know how to get started as I don't have a manual.
SMBFS is OK for transferring files, but you have to know which one. ScalaNet makes this al easy for you. I know because I have it working with a nullmodem-cable right now. To transfer files from a PC to the master Amiga I want to connect the Amiga's to an existing LAN and use that connection also for updating the player station.
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After a lot of experimenting: Got it to work.
You need to load the socket.library first.
Thanks.
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@leofoe:
Interesting, I had no idea that Scala had support for remote updating and control via TCP/IP on the Amiga.
/Patrik
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patrik wrote:
@leofoe:
Interesting, I had no idea that Scala had support for remote updating and control via TCP/IP on the Amiga.
/Patrik
I think InfoChannel has. Not Scala.
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Just sent you a pm :)
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edit:
I see you got it to work, so ignore this post :P
I sometimes wish i had the ability to delete my own post..
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leofoe wrote:
In my opinion Scala InfoChannel is one of the few (if not only) remaining piece of software in which the Amiga still outperforms any other platform, at an unsurpassable cost/quality mix.
When I wrote this, I expected a flame war! But apparently, everybody agrees.
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Maybe you should write a FAQ/Tutorial for Infochannel so we can be enlighted? :-)
It sounds very interesting that you can use TCP/IP to update your work.
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Crusher wrote:
Maybe you should write a FAQ/Tutorial for Infochannel so we can be enlighted? :-)
It sounds very interesting that you can use TCP/IP to update your work.
If more members want that: I will.
But my point is: The classic Amiga cannot be used as a professional computer any more, except for presentations on TV-screens, with programs like Scala of InfoChannel.
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..and it does it better than other computers. :-)
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Crusher wrote:
..and it does it better than other computers. :-)
That's exactly what I wrote:
leofoe wrote:
In my opinion Scala InfoChannel is one of the few (if not the only) remaining pieces of software in which the Amiga still outperforms any other platform, at an unsurpassable cost/quality mix.
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..and you were right. :-)
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@leofoe
Hi Leofoe...................You just ran into the Biggest SCALA enthusiast in the world.....ME! I dont know a single human who loves scala more than I do....as a matter of fact my stage name when I do performances (With SCALA and other software) is Scala!. I use SCALA more than any other application on My Amiga CD32/SX32 Pro 68030 @ 50mhz, 40Gig HD, 128Mb Ram, Harware MAS MP3 decoder and tons of Video Software.
Scala rules massively..........people dont realize how good this application is.not even SCALA Inc. themselves.......if they knew...........PowerPoint would not exist or would cease to. Now of course the current Power Point is SUPER high quality output...but compare it to Scala iPlay on the PC. I also Have MediaPoint on the Amiga........which does stuff Scala doesnt normally do............the interface looks kinda cool, but much harder and more awkward to use.
anyway, keep in touch with me for Scala help or even just to talk about the stuff we are doing.........I am currently working on a gameshow type Game using Scala..its loooking massively cool. Using Real Video via the Scala ECHO device.........I act as the Game show host for now in it.
I dot have InfoChannel though..........I am dying for a copy...........almost got one off ebay but got outbid..............I just recieved a Demo of VideoStage Pro! its another Scala type program which looks good so far......there is Also ImageVision which does neat stuff.........and of course Broadcast Titler 2.0 which has excellent looking fonts and smooth wipes.
Oh and by the way..to transer files to your A1200 from a PC, why not add an internal CDR laptop drive to it? then just transfer stuff from CD? there is a cool link on this site that shows 2 different ways to do it.
or get a Compact Flash card of any size and use that to transfer files.........(Yes, Amiga can use Compact Flash, Sony Memory Stick, SD cards, and MicroDrives..with just adding some software from aminet on your HD) Get Fat95.lha and cf.lha from Aminet. I have a 2Gigabyte PCMCIA memory card on my Amiga :-)
Check your Pmail for my email address.
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Did you try Hollywood? Comments about it?
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@leofoe
It may be an idea to try MediaPoint btw, it'll do remote updates and it's free (now).
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I got it to work already.
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Elwood wrote:
Did you try Hollywood? Comments about it?
No, but I will try it some time.
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I'm really interested in hearing how you got TCP/IP to work with ScalaNet. I never figured out that one!
You say that you had to load socket.library? You don't mean bsdsocket.library?
I always got this to work over modem and nullmodem, but never with TCP/IP as there were little documentation of it at that time.
I concluded a few years later that the problem must have been that ScalaNet did require a different TCP/IP-stack than AmiTCP or Miami.....?
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I'm really interested in hearing how you got TCP/IP to work with ScalaNet. I never figured out that one!
You say that you had to load socket.library? You don't mean bsdsocket.library?
I always got this to work over modem and nullmodem, but never with TCP/IP as there were little documentation of it at that time.
I concluded a few years later that the problem must have been that ScalaNet did require a different TCP/IP-stack than AmiTCP or Miami.....?
No, I used to link a master and a player station using AmiTCP like a decade ago. So AmiTCP definately works.
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Good to get that confirmed,Gulliver. Will give it a try tonight.
Btw, I sent you a PM over at EAB..could you please have a look at it? :)
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Good to get that confirmed,Gulliver. Will give it a try tonight.
Btw, I sent you a PM over at EAB..could you please have a look at it? :)
No problem, will look at it :)
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Just got ScalaNet to work over TCP/IP tonight... some things are a bit unlogical, but I figured out how to do it.
For those of you who wonder:
"Network" and "TCP/IP" must be moved from EX to Startup in the Scalafolder.
On the playermachine here I got AmiTCP 3 GNU, and it does not contain the required "socket.library".
I had to get that from AmiTCP4 and move it til Amitcp:libs/ and assign INET: to Amitcp:
Then it all worked magically.... Infochannel is really a masterpiece of software...
Can anyone please tell me what the "Browse" EX does?
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Just got ScalaNet to work over TCP/IP tonight... some things are a bit unlogical, but I figured out how to do it.
For those of you who wonder:
"Network" and "TCP/IP" must be moved from EX to Startup in the Scalafolder.
On the playermachine here I got AmiTCP 3 GNU, and it does not contain the required "socket.library".
I had to get that from AmiTCP4 and move it til Amitcp:libs/ and assign INET: to Amitcp:
Then it all worked magically.... Infochannel is really a masterpiece of software...
Can anyone please tell me what the "Browse" EX does?
It automatically generates thumbnails in one of the requesters. I can remember in which one though :)