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Title: Death of an era???
Post by: Insanity on June 04, 2005, 03:52:05 PM

news.com (http://news.com.com/Apple+to+ditch+IBM%2C+switch+to+Intel+chips/2100-1006_3-5731398.html?part=rss&tag=5731398&subj=news)

Does anyone know of the validity of this?

Title: Re: Death of an era???
Post by: Framiga on June 04, 2005, 04:02:44 PM

i hope not! . . . it would be the end for us too

Title: Re: Death of an era???
Post by: Vincent on June 04, 2005, 04:20:54 PM

*cough* (http://www.amiga.org/forums/showthread.php?t=16125)

:-D

Title: Re: Death of an era???
Post by: leirbag28 on June 04, 2005, 05:23:54 PM

THis is NOT necessarily Bad news.............It may Be for APPLE, but not for Amiga................See IBM makes chips for the New Consoles...........Sony, X-Box, Nintendo and others..............that fact that AMiga Uses PowerPC may provoke IBM to want to promote the Amiga......it means more business for them in terms of PowerPC chips!!!


Down with Apple!!! YeeeeeHaww!!!!

Title: Re: Death of an era???
Post by: Framiga on June 04, 2005, 05:29:12 PM

wow! interesting strategy indeed :roll:

Title: Re: Death of an era???
Post by: odin on June 04, 2005, 06:31:39 PM

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leirbag28 wrote:
that fact that AMiga Uses PowerPC may provoke IBM to want to promote the Amiga......it means more business for them in terms of PowerPC chips!!!

:roflmao: You haven't done a reality check lately, have you? :p

Title: Re: Death of an era???
Post by: Argo on June 04, 2005, 06:46:57 PM

Yup, the lovely media... Neither Apple, IBM, or Intel have confimed this. No article mentions specifically how this information was "learned".
I'm not so sure this is about Apple computer line. I've heard that the Ipod uses Intel chips. Could be for some new media device from Apple or even a chipset. Guess we'll know Monday. There are always big rumours months before Apple keynote speaches. I think they enjoy watching all the activity it causes. Not to mention the free plublicity it generates.
If Apple did change their Macs over to Intel x86 CPU, I see three possibilities: Apple goes under as they have just betraied their userbase, PPC development slows as IBM looses a major customer, or both.
It's most likely not what all the talk is about, though I bet Apple is loving every minute of it. Look at it, everyone is talking about PPC vs x86, Mac vs. Wintel PC, etc. in an attempt to rationalize their own logical conclusion of this rumour reported as fact. It's saving Apple million is advertising. Sure their stock will got wonky, but after the show when all is known it'll skyrocket.

Title: Re: Death of an era???
Post by: T_Bone on June 04, 2005, 07:22:12 PM

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leirbag28 wrote:

THis is NOT necessarily Bad news.............It may Be for APPLE, but not for Amiga................See IBM makes chips for the New Consoles...........Sony, X-Box, Nintendo and others..............that fact that AMiga Uses PowerPC may provoke IBM to want to promote the Amiga......it means more business for them in terms of PowerPC chips!!!


Down with Apple!!! YeeeeeHaww!!!!

99% of everyone who's going to buy a (current) PPC amiga, has already. IBM isn't going to be striving for those 5 late AmigaOne buyers.

Title: Re: Death of an era???
Post by: Dan on June 04, 2005, 07:30:46 PM

Now is not the right time to launch a pda.
Another possibility is an iPhone. But is apple really ready for that...
An iTablet? maybe... A wireless lower cost Cintiq (http://www.wacom.com/lcdtablets/index.cfm) would be very popular.
But it´s probably just ARM-processors for a video ipod.
Apple can´t just sit back and take stuff like this http://ipodlinux.org/Video_Player (http://ipodlinux.org/Video_Player)

Title: Re: Death of an era???
Post by: itix on June 04, 2005, 08:48:48 PM

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If Apple did change their Macs over to Intel x86 CPU, I see three possibilities: Apple goes under as they have just betraied their userbase, PPC development slows as IBM looses a major customer, or both.

Fourth option: Apple skyrockets in the x86 market. Maybe they lose few Apple fanatics but they can get more from x86.

Title: Re: Death of an era???
Post by: itix on June 04, 2005, 09:02:32 PM

Hmm.. though:

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Apple has used IBM's PowerPC processors since 1994, but will begin a phased transition to Intel's chips, sources familiar with the situation said.

It says nothing about x86. The x86 stuff mentioned later in the article is speculation.

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One advantage Apple has this time: The open-source FreeBSD operating system, of which Mac OS X is a variant, already runs on x86 chips such as Intel's Pentium. And Jobs has said Mac OS X could easily run on x86 chips.

X86 was not part of original rumour. The editor only assumes it is x86.

Title: Re: Death of an era???
Post by: nomore on June 05, 2005, 12:34:58 AM

Intel to make PPC chips?

Title: Re: Death of an era???
Post by: boing on June 05, 2005, 03:03:03 AM

Does Apple have the rights to ask Intel to make the chips?  They do have some ownership don't they?

There's a fantastic analysis of the situation here:

http://smirkingchimp.com/viewtopic.php?topic=56522&forum=7 (http://smirkingchimp.com/viewtopic.php?topic=56522&forum=7)
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Title: Re: Death of an era???
Post by: dammy on June 05, 2005, 06:09:49 AM

by boing on 2005/6/4 22:03:03

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Does Apple have the rights to ask Intel to make the chips? They do have some ownership don't they?

IIRC what I've read, starting in December, third party FABs can start making PPC.  I really doubt it's about cost and quantity issues.

Dammy

Title: Re: Death of an era???
Post by: Insanity on June 05, 2005, 07:46:12 AM

http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=23714

Thequirer.net seems to have inside sources that confirm some kind of architectural movement.