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Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga Marketplace => Topic started by: x56h34 on June 01, 2005, 04:46:19 PM

Title: One for TjLaZer. :-)
Post by: x56h34 on June 01, 2005, 04:46:19 PM
Amiga 4000T (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5203927635) system on eBay. Looks to be in good condition, however untested. This always arises suspition that it may not work. I understand that not everyone has access to an Amiga monitor, however how hard it is to actually plug in a power cord and turn the system on? At least you could hear if the hard drive clicks or not, which would indicate that there's a good chance of the unit working. Is it possible that a 1000+ feedback seller of mostly computer hardware items wouldn't know this? :-)
Title: Re: One for TjLaZer. :-)
Post by: glitch on June 01, 2005, 05:06:58 PM
Hi,

     Most likely a PC chop shop.  Probably looked at the back and said "Where the @$!@$ is the VGA port?" and put it aside...

-G
Title: Re: One for TjLaZer. :-)
Post by: Framiga on June 01, 2005, 05:14:14 PM
i don't think so.

Seen that he has listed even the "A3640 rev.3.1", i suppose that he alredy seen an Amiga before.

Title: Re: One for TjLaZer. :-)
Post by: glitch on June 01, 2005, 05:28:46 PM
Yeah, but I can poke my head inside of a Ferrari and tell you what type of radio it's got...
Title: Re: One for TjLaZer. :-)
Post by: Karlos on June 01, 2005, 05:30:53 PM
True enough; it is also possible the machine had some manifest information when the seller obtained it and may have no idea what a 3640 card is but assumes interested buyers will know what it is.

Title: Re: One for TjLaZer. :-)
Post by: glitch on June 01, 2005, 05:33:17 PM
Yeah, it's probably crap and broken so the rest of you shouldn't even think of bidding on it...  8-)
Title: Re: One for TjLaZer. :-)
Post by: Framiga on June 01, 2005, 05:36:17 PM
Karlos

to point out that the A3640 is a rev 3.1, let me think that he knows that the 3.0 has problem.

btw . . . i care less than nothing about that item :-)

Title: Re: One for TjLaZer. :-)
Post by: PaSha on June 01, 2005, 06:05:50 PM
Quote

glitch wrote:
Hi,

     Most likely a PC chop shop.  Probably looked at the back and said "Where the @$!@$ is the VGA port?" and put it aside...

-G

Definately sounds like it.
"You are bidding on one Amiga A4000T computer, part number A4000T"
An Amigan wouldn't bother specifying part number A4000T.

"1 simm installed, I am not sure what size simm it is"
An Amigan would know that the chances are (99.99%) that this is a 4 MB simm. No A4000T's were ever sold with 1 MB fast ram...

"One floppy is installed"
An Amigan would specify whether it's a DD drive or HD drive, or perhaps the most likely Escom PC drive with the small adapter board.

Anyways, these beasts are tough, and since it comes with a coin cell battery (although, it is strangely enough soldered on, guess a socket would be too expensive), chances are it's working. The current price (100 USD) is worth the risk anyway, genuine A4000T's are rare.

Well, that's my thoughts about it, and don't worry, I won't bid on it, I already have one and I live in Norway...
For those of you in Europe, there is an A4000T on the German Ebay:
http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=8142&item=5195604377&rd=1
but this one is being sold by a collector, who is selling his spare A4000T due to lack of space. It even includes the original tower 'feet'.
Oh, and here are 8 drive rails http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=8154&item=5201875435&rd=1
You'll need these for mounting cdrom drives and such.

Happy bidding
-Paul
Escom A4000T, CSPPC-200/68060-60, CVPPC, 128 MB Fast, 9+4,5 GB UWSCSI Hds, Genuine Chinon FZ-357A HD floppy, 40x Plextor CD-rom drive, Delfina Plus, Ariadne2
Title: Re: One for TjLaZer. :-)
Post by: X-ray on June 01, 2005, 07:01:47 PM
@ X56

Take note of the pics in the link to the German sale in PaSha's post: those are the same tower stands that I got with my A4KT when I bought it in Croydon in 1996. I think you were unlucky, not getting the stands, the L-bracket for the AV module and the bezel door label.
Title: Re: One for TjLaZer. :-)
Post by: TjLaZer on June 02, 2005, 02:07:05 AM
I would love that one!  but am a bit leary on bidding on non tested goods.  I have two A600's here that are dead and paid well over $100 for them each on fleaBay.  Was told they work but sold as is.  (no banana on this one) :(
Title: Re: One for TjLaZer. :-)
Post by: glitch on June 02, 2005, 02:12:36 AM
Hi TJ,

    Did you end up getting that A600 from the sun computers here in Canada?

-G
Title: Re: One for TjLaZer. :-)
Post by: glitch on June 02, 2005, 03:22:37 AM
Hey x56h34,

    I sent a message along to the seller...

Dear phatbaby77,

You asked:
"Hi, Could you please plug this machine in and hit the power switch - I would like to know whether the power light on the front comes on, and that the hard drive spins up and sounds allright before bidding. $350 is too much of a gamble as you can appreciate! Thanks! -G"

Hello, I have done as you asked and the green power light does come on steady. The drive spins up and then another light flickers as what it sounds like the hard drive being accessed. Hope this helps.

Cool!  Let the bidding begin!  If you look at his other items, there's nothing Amiga related at all...

-G
Title: Re: One for TjLaZer. :-)
Post by: Karlos on June 02, 2005, 11:02:57 AM
Damn those SLC barstewards! :-x

I'd be bidding on this if it weren't for those morons!
Title: Re: One for TjLaZer. :-)
Post by: Framiga on June 02, 2005, 12:20:56 PM
i'm beginning to understand all this iterest on EBay things . . . its a sort of gambling.

Good for the adrenalin :-)

Karlos . . whats happened?

Title: Re: One for TjLaZer. :-)
Post by: Karlos on June 02, 2005, 12:34:43 PM
@Framiga

see here (http://www.amiga.org/forums/showthread.php?t=16070)
Title: Re: One for TjLaZer. :-)
Post by: x56h34 on June 02, 2005, 01:22:18 PM
@glitch:

So the chances of it working have just risen. :-)
However, I did once bin and won a similarily described A4000D system. The description was pretty much the same. The seller said sold as-is, there's not way to test it out, however when you turn it on, you can hear the hard drive clicking and see the hd led flashing. Fine I thought...it most likely works. It looked gorgeous from the pictures, both the internal and external parts of this A4000D. No battery leakage. So I bid on it. I won it. I received it. Hard drive clicks my ass! It turned out that what the seller thought was hard drive clicking was merely spinning on power up, and nothing more. Either that or he plain lied. :-)

After extensive tests it turned out to be a busted motherboard due to leaky audio capacitors (a nearby chip looks corroded and the audio capacitors need to be changed). It was really minor and hard to spot, this leakage, however A4000 motherboards seem very sensitive and traces easily get damaged. There could be more that's faulty with this motherboard, however those are the only visible problems.
Title: Re: One for TjLaZer. :-)
Post by: glitch on June 02, 2005, 02:17:55 PM
I know, but it's so shiny...  
Title: Re: One for TjLaZer. :-)
Post by: x56h34 on June 02, 2005, 02:48:13 PM
Indeed. :-)

Too bad about the reserve price. $350 would be a good deal in case it works, but a huge loss if it doesn't.
Title: Re: One for TjLaZer. :-)
Post by: Tahoe on June 02, 2005, 06:06:37 PM
Glitch, spoke to the seller, it doesn't work.
He had a look inside and it looks like a bomb went off inside....  :oops:  :oops:  :oops:

[color=008000]Now let me think, 150$ shipping + 350$ makes 500$; current exchange rate makes 400€, sound acceptable[/color]

Nah, go for it; shipping just kills me on this one; however I would still love to own a genuine T