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Amiga.org specific forums => Amiga.org Discussion and Site Feedback => Topic started by: CU_AMiGA on May 11, 2005, 02:21:39 PM
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Hey Yo!
Well, i am not going to be as rude as the title suggests (as i am under a "gagging" order), but i really must express my opinions.
Firstly, i respect the developers and designers of this site, i think they have done a top notch job. But over the last couple of days, i have been saddened to find out that the whole Amiga.org Forum has been "tarted" up, and the look has been spiced up. I very much liked the old look of the forum. But the fact of the matter is, surely the old basic look of the foums would be better:
1) It looks far more attractive and better to use because of it's simplicity
2) It would surely take longer loading time for slower modems with the new look
3) The old look doesn't give you a headache!
4) The new look has too much graphical crap and flashiness, where it ain't needed
Does anyone else agree with me on this? (for the same or different reasons) I don't care about this site having to keep up with the "Joneses" aka AmigaWorld.net, just to make this site look just as good, or (as i suspect) more better because of the competition between the two. The old look looked far more the part for it's job. I mean look at the BBC website. That has been given awards for it's colour and layout, and it's as simple and basic as you can get - without going over the top and displaying all the graphical flashey nonsense.
I think Amiga.org should learn a few tips from the BBC website. (Although i know that Amiga.org has nowhere near the money and resources that the BBC has). Oh, and i don't want the usual whiners (they know who they are), saying rubbish about me complaining and putting me down, as i want this to be a discussion. Please respect my opinion.
Regards
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New look? :-? I must be going blind, I haven't noticed any changes...
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Oh you mean the 'new thread' button looks different now?
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the only thing that screws the layout, its the Google logo.
Would be better if it would placed on top of the Search string and not on its left.
It eats a lot of space horizzontally.
Oops . . . only with IBrowse. With AWeb3.5.05 its a disaster!
EDIT- works ok even with AWeb, after some changes in prefs.
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You're welcome to your opinion. I politely disagree.
This has nothing to do with "keeping up with the jones'" or any other site. The changes made are only wax and polish on what was already there. Well, that and the fact that I just realized that certain files (such as viewtopic / threaded) had -- for some reason -- reverted to the default CSS file (for which no CSS file exists).
It did, in fact, draw complaints because the CSS-based file was used without any formatting.
Unfortunately, you're right about one thing though. Any time anything happens, it's always you (or one of your alter-egos) {bleep}ing and whining about it first and before anyone else.
The code added simply cleans up what was already there and doesn't add any load time to any of the pages (no additional graphics, no real additional code). Ok, maybe 1k of additional code, but don't let that stop you from whining.
Wayne
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I don't see a problem with the google logo, but it's probably because I use real browsers on real machines. Unfortunately I can't do anything about that (except completely remove the box) because that's all google's code. If there's a problem with their code, maybe you should ask them.
Wayne
edit: ok, I was able to remove the google box from the search the web block, BUT, I'm not sure Google will appreciate it.
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no need to remove it.
On Aweb its parsed OK. (on top the Search string)
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Hey Yo!
Wayne wrote:
Unfortunately, you're right about one thing though. Any time anything happens, it's always you (or one of your alter-egos) {bleep}ing and whining about it first and before anyone else.
Now what did i say before Wayne? Let me repeat myself as you obviously haven't got your reading glasses on, or too thick to understand.
CU_AMiGA wrote:
Oh, and i don't want the usual whiners (they know who they are), saying rubbish about me complaining and putting me down, as i want this to be a discussion. Please respect my opinion.
Actually, i really shouldn't be surprised. Because it's ALWAYS you that winds me up. NOW STOP IT. I can always discuss matters or improvements to other people or on other forums But whenever something like that is mentioned here, it always seems to go way above you head and then act like a {bleep} and thenyou break out into a little {bleep}ty over it. Can't you take a little critism or other people's ideas?
Regards,
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Oh, and it is only me on here now. Jonopike/Sumner7 have been banned from here. So you cannot use that "alter-egos" crap excuse for much longer.
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Hey Yo!
Yeah. It's not too bad at the moment. But i know what's going to happen. It is going to be like last time, when the whole forum got a make over, and then you get other (and pratically useless) features like the HP meter. And then you get alsorts of problems with it and then you will resort back to the old setup again. The old forum looked kicked ass big time. :-D
Regards,
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Framiga wrote:
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no need to remove it.
On Aweb its parsed OK. (on top the Search string)
Hey Yo!
Oh yes. How well does AWeb and IBrowse perform with this website and others (like AmigaWorld, etc)?
Regards,
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> I know what's going to happen.
You do? Mystic are you?
DON'T PANIC
I am not interested in the hours and hours of work it would take to "upgrade" these forums like what happened before. Let's face it. The antiquated Amiga simply cannot handle more than what is already here (and apparently can't even handle what's already here in some parts).
There is no reason whatsoever though that these forums couldn't be made more pleasant and user-friendly (and no, that's not an invitation for you to leave).
Based on your input, you're completely having a knee-jerk reaction to a problem that doesn't even exist. I changed a few colors. I added one single graphic. For that you're panicking?
I understand that you can get valium cheap from Canadian pharmacies though, so maybe there's help in your future.
(and yes, that's "winding you up")
:laughing:
Wayne
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Can't you take a little critism or other people's ideas?
I took your opinion, and your criticism. I disagreed. You obviously have an issue with people who disagree with you, far more than I with the converse.
Oh, and it is only me on here now. Jonopike/Sumner7 have been banned from here. So you cannot use that "alter-egos" crap excuse for much longer.
Since we all know that you are all one and the same (or at least act that way), I feel that the "excuse" is very appropriate for a long time to come.
If you are indeed seperate people -- for which I have strong doubts -- you really should encourage one another to grow up.
Wayne
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Wayne wrote:
Oh, and it is only me on here now. Jonopike/Sumner7 have been banned from here. So you cannot use that "alter-egos" crap excuse for much longer.
Since we all know that you are all one and the same (or at least act that way), I feel that the "excuse" is very appropriate for a long time to come.
If you are indeed seperate people -- for which I have strong doubts -- you really should encourage one another to grow up.
Wayne
Hey Yo!
Wayne, we are seperate people. There have been pictures of us, we even have our own seperate sites (well i don't, but they do). I really can't offer anymore proof. What can i do to get people to believe we are seperate people.
You really are the worst people person i have met Wayne. I start off a topic, clearly stating i didn't want an arguement, and then YOU come here, insult me, telling lies and obviously trying to upset me and annoy because you know i am a hot headed person. I also believe you are trying to get me to rise to your bait and get a reaction from me. The remaining user base here is dwindling because of your offensive attitude Wayne (during the Morph OS era). It seems to be like joining the Taliban here.
I have to watch what i say here, but i know that what you said in this thread about me was uncalled for and i didn't deserve that.
Regards,
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Wayne wrote:
I took your opinion, and your criticism. I disagreed. You obviously have an issue with people who disagree with you, far more than I with the converse.
Hey Yo!
Oh, i can take other people's opinion. What i can't take is people who personally insult me, and then says "it's a joke". You are obviously trying to get a reaction out of me Wayne.
Regards
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Wayne wrote:
You're welcome to your opinion. I politely disagree.
Because you disagree you don't have to act like a jerk...
Make a discussion out of it instead of throwing mud at each other.
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I can offer you over 1000 pictures stating that I'm 1000 different people. Doesn't make it so.
You really are the worst people person i have met Wayne.
You and I have never met.
I start off a topic, clearly stating i didn't want an arguement, and then YOU come here, insult me, telling lies and obviously trying to upset me and annoy because you know i am a hot headed person
You come here, starting a thread specifically intended to insult me, telling lies, and obviously trying to upset and annoy me because you know I'm a hot-headed person. :-D
Seriously. You stated your opinion. I disagreed. I also reiterated the simple fact that you tend to {bleep} about every single thing that happens here. One would wonder whether your entire existence here isn't simply to make others unhappy so that they leave for other sites. It wouldn't be the first time that's happened here, but it's a silly concept.
Amiga.org exists. It will exist into the future. I have very little to do with this site any more outside of it's daily operation, leaving most of the grunt-work to the moderators.
EDIT -- I'm not suggesting that I'm not interested in the site any more, quite the contrary, I wish I had more time to devote to expanding it with a whole lot of Amiga-specific information.
In essence, I poke my head out of the proverbial ground long enough to answer site-specific threads, and yours -- as I've stated -- was simply a "pre-emptive spazz" against a problem that doesn't even exist.
I don't "dislike you". I don't even know you. I tend to answer your posts more than others, because you tend to spend most of your time here {bleep}ing about something. Generally speaking, I take input about the site very seriously and usually put most ideas that are submitted into action. After all, I can't (and shouldn't have to) think of everything by myself.
The remaining user base here is dwindling because of your offensive attitude Wayne (during the Morph OS era). It seems to be like joining the Taliban here.
Ummmm. skip it. I have apologized for my involvement with Genesi about a thousand times now, and paid for it in ways that you couldn't begin to comprehend. If you can't accept my apology for the past mistakes I've made (and yes, getting totally {bleep}ed over by Bill Buck was a mistake), then by all means, go elsewhere because yes, I'm tired of hearing it. While I really, really respect the programmers involved on both sides, both companies in this equation are equally {bleep}ed, in eerily similar ways.
Amiga.org exists for Amiga users and their computer. If you're here to start {bleep}, buckle up and drive safe on your way out the door.
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Hey Yo!
Well, Wayne, my impression of you (coming from the opininions of other people as well) is that you're a very offensive and rude person. And if you don't believe me, go over to AmigaWorld and ask, but wait, you will probably be too "busy" to do that. I have clearly made this thread to start a discussion, not an arguement. And you have come here not only disagreeing with my opinion (which i can take really), but what i don't like is you personally insulting me, and literally getting people to side with you over me being more than one person. The fact of the matter is, you are going by belief, and whether you like it or not, you have no hard evidence. I admit, i am hot headed at times, so i don't blame you for trying Wayne.
I am not going to say anything more on this matter Wayne so please let whatever it is drop, because i can't be bothered for a "mud fight".
Regards,
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You're right, and to a small extent, I apologize, but wherein CU_AMIGA (*the* CU_AMIGA) is concerned, it is sometimes difficult. Look at it from the opposite angle and it'll become obvious why this thread could be considered troll bait.
I simply bit, as CU *knew* I would do by posting it in the first place. He gets a big perverse kick out of irritating me, just like his aforementioned buddies.
Wayne
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And if you don't believe me, go over to AmigaWorld and ask, but wait, you will probably be too "busy" to do that.
Are you admitting that your only role here is to steer Amiga.org members to another site?
:laughing:
{thread lock warning : I will lock in 10 posts, but God forbid anyone say I closed this thread without letting them get in their punches :-)}
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I suggest not replying any more in this thread...
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Wayne wrote:
You're right, and to a small extent, I apologize, but wherein CU_AMIGA (*the* CU_AMIGA) is concerned, it is sometimes difficult. Look at it from the opposite angle and it'll become obvious why this thread could be considered troll bait.
I simply bit, as CU *knew* I would do by posting it in the first place. He gets a big perverse kick out of irritating me, just like his aforementioned buddies.
Wayne
Hey Yo!
What did i do to irritate you this time? I am expressing an opinion, that i didn't think this new look was as good as the old one. I actually critically acclaimed the old look, i think it kicked ass. :-D
Are you admitting that your only role here is to steer Amiga.org members to another site?
Nah. I have heard people over their moaning your name, etc.
Regards
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Starting a thread about a non-event was a start. You ASSUMED that I was upgrading the forums (like last time) and rather than asking me about it first, you started this thread to tell everyone how badly you think the changes (which are a non-event) sucked.
That's not feedback, that's whining. It generally doesn't help that this is your typical modus of operandi.
The threaded forum template was 100% CSS driven, on a CSS file which doesn't exist. I couldn't fix that without fixing a few other files (such as the viewtopic / flat template). Nothing else changed, but you immediately jumped in and started whining about it for no apparent reason.
Reason enough for me to be irritated? Yep.
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Wayne wrote:
Starting a thread about a non-event was a start. You ASSUMED that I was upgrading the forums (like last time) and rather than asking me about it first, you started this thread to tell everyone how badly you think the changes (which are a non-event) sucked.
That's not feedback, that's whining. It generally doesn't help that this is your typical modus of operandi.
The threaded forum template was 100% CSS driven, on a CSS file which doesn't exist. I couldn't fix that without fixing a few other files (such as the viewtopic / flat template). Nothing else changed, but you immediately jumped in and started whining about it for no apparent reason.
Reason enough for me to be irritated? Yep.
Hey Yo!
Okay. So maybe i should have worded things better. But i honestly was not creating a damned hate campaign about it. I stated that i wanted a discussion and get other people's opinions too. I didn't mean to piss you off Wayne, but i did say i really liked the old look of the forum, doesn't that count for anything? If you also notice, before you posted, that people were actually discussing the matter. Anyway, i really don't want to get into a slanging match Wayne, so PLEASE quit with the offensive personal insults Wayne.
Reagrds,
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If you take anything I have said so far with more than a grain of salt, you need thicker skin :-)
You are hot-headed, I am irritable. Perhaps it would be better if both you or I thought before posting, but you'd probably be freaked out to realize how similar that the two of us really are.
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I give in Wayne. You have won the battle of the insults here, and you obviously have all the people here on your side so why bother trying to defend myself. Lock the thread.