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Title: Pro Audio development for AmigaOS4 & MorphOS
Post by: Darth_X on March 07, 2003, 10:13:51 PM
Both AmigaOS4 and MorphOS have AHI, a simple audio API.

Does anyone here have ideas or plans for anything more advanced than just AHI?
Title: Re: Pro Audio development for AmigaOS4 & MorphOS
Post by: on March 07, 2003, 11:10:25 PM
ProStationAudio should work on both platforms.
www.adiolabs.it
Title: Re: Pro Audio development for AmigaOS4 & MorphOS
Post by: on March 07, 2003, 11:11:05 PM
ProStationAudio should work on both platforms.
www.audiolabs.it
Title: Re: Pro Audio development for AmigaOS4 & MorphOS
Post by: catohagen on March 07, 2003, 11:16:39 PM
> AHI, a simple audio API.

what do you mean ? simple ?
ahi redirects sound to selected hardware.
what more should it do ?

AmigaOS/Morphos is an operating system, not a
music program/sequencer...
Title: Re: Pro Audio development for AmigaOS4 & MorphOS
Post by: Darth_X on March 08, 2003, 04:28:03 AM
Catohagen,

a much improved avatar, so listen to what the duck says...

What do you hear?
Title: Re: Pro Audio development for AmigaOS4 & MorphOS
Post by: Darth_X on March 08, 2003, 04:30:23 AM
Miranda, even better.. Prostation audio is being licensed and included with MorphOS.




Title: Re: Pro Audio development for AmigaOS4 & MorphOS
Post by: Wilse on March 12, 2003, 07:24:44 PM
Quote

Darth_X wrote:
Miranda, even better.. Prostation audio is being licensed and included with MorphOS.






Included? Free of charge? You've got to be kidding? Please tell me more..... :-o
Title: Re: Pro Audio development for AmigaOS4 & MorphOS
Post by: bbrv on March 12, 2003, 07:39:57 PM
Actually, that is completely true Wilse.  Genesi has licensed ProStation Audio for MorphOS from Maurizio Ciccione of AudioLabs.  ProStation Audio will be bundled with the OS.

:-D

Raquel and Bill   :-)
Title: Re: Pro Audio development for AmigaOS4 & MorphOS
Post by: odin on March 12, 2003, 07:44:13 PM
Any other neat stuff bundled with MorphOS?
Title: Re: Pro Audio development for AmigaOS4 & MorphOS
Post by: on March 12, 2003, 07:45:46 PM
Good god ....... that's fantastic. Never even considered MorphOS as an option but now ....... god damn it  :-o I don't know what to do.

edit:
OK ...... now, the thing is: what soundcards does MOS support? hopefully something better than the sb live ?
Title: Re: Pro Audio development for AmigaOS4 & MorphOS
Post by: lempkee on March 12, 2003, 08:15:23 PM
sounds interesting, hopefully its not just for competetion reasons that this is bundled, lets hope its for quality reasons.... looking forward to see it in a final form... until then my mind is somewhere else.

Title: Re: Pro Audio development for AmigaOS4 & MorphOS
Post by: Wilse on March 15, 2003, 11:09:07 AM
Hi Bill,

Quote
Genesi has licensed ProStation Audio for MorphOS from Maurizio Ciccione of AudioLabs. ProStation Audio will be bundled with the OS.


Well, bugger me! I have to say, I'm completely flabbergasted by this.
Fantastic news. A very pleasant surprise, indeed.
I raise my glass to your efforts! :pint:
You may just have won yourself a convert. Will I be able to buy MorphOS on it's own?
Even if I can't, there's always the next peggy release date.....
September, eh? That's six months. I reckon I could get the cash together between now and then.
Now where am I gonna keep all these machines? :-D
Title: Pro Audio comes with MorphOS!!!
Post by: bbrv on March 15, 2003, 12:14:03 PM
Well, Wilse, if you start a Pegasos User Group in Scotland we might be able to make a deal much sooner...;-)

Send us an email if you are interested!

:-)

Raquel and Bill
Title: Re: Pro Audio development for AmigaOS4 & MorphOS
Post by: Alkemyst on March 15, 2003, 12:39:35 PM
Audio Evolution
http://www.audio-evolution.com
 

Title: Re: Pro Audio development for AmigaOS4 & MorphOS
Post by: FuZion on March 15, 2003, 01:51:23 PM
I'll buy one.

I'm being forced to get a PC atm for programs like Logic, Reason, Recycle etc...

I'd like something on the Amiga that could import & export projects compatable with these progs. A good program on the Amiga is a start.
Title: Re: Pro Audio development for AmigaOS4 & MorphOS
Post by: Darth_X on March 15, 2003, 03:36:21 PM
@Alkemyst

Would a head-to-head review of Prostation Audio and Audio Evolution be a cool idea?


 
Title: Re: Pro Audio development for AmigaOS4 & MorphOS
Post by: cgutjahr on March 15, 2003, 03:56:43 PM
Before everyboy gets crazy about the fact that AudioLabs will be included with MOS, I would ask BBRV for more details.

It would be pretty impressive if he would be talking about the *full* unrestricted version that currently ships for 360 EUR - but I somehow doubt that they're going to include this one.

It's like saying "AudioEvolution 4 will be included with AmigaOS4". It will, but only the SE version.
Title: Re: Pro Audio development for AmigaOS4 & MorphOS
Post by: on March 15, 2003, 04:41:01 PM
I would bet that the version Of PSA that will come with morph would be the light version.  4 Tracks, two left, two Right.  However, do not let this bring you down, all the other GREAT features of PSA will be there.  If you morph dudes have never seen PSA, you are in for a real treat.  Floyd and I have been selling PSA in the states for the last 4.5 years, since its earliest beginning when I was the president of the Sacramento Amiga Computer club.  Its been used at  emrl (http://www.emrl.com) to master sound tracks and Foley for many of our movie projects and Public Service Announcement.  This program, PSA has bee tried and tested in the most demanding professional Media and has been a major tool for EMRL Media Group and is Highly worth what ever you would pay for it.  Mos people are really in for a Treat :-o  :-D
Title: ProStation Audio included in MorphOS!!!
Post by: bbrv on March 15, 2003, 04:53:41 PM
Hi Christophe -- here are the details:

ProStation Audio Platinum will be included WITH MorphOS.  It IS the same version that ships today for 360 Euros with the exception of one MPEG library that allows it to function as a DVD player.  This ONE library could not be sub-licensed.  Everything else is included.

Everything should be clear now.  We will handle DVDs in another way.

Sincerely,

Raquel and Bill  :-)
Genesi
Title: Re: Pro Audio development for AmigaOS4 & MorphOS
Post by: Alkemyst on March 15, 2003, 04:56:44 PM
@Miranda

You make it sound like its a MOS only APP.

It will run on Aos4 as well.

Then ill have the choice of AE & PSA for Aos4.

Title: Re: ProStation Audio included in MorphOS!!!
Post by: Wilse on March 15, 2003, 05:10:00 PM
Hi Bill,

Quote
Well, Wilse, if you start a Pegasos User Group in Scotland we might be able to make a deal much sooner...


Sounds great, except that so far I only know of two other Scottish users who are interested in a next generation machine. :-(
However, it's an interesting idea and I'm sure there's a potential base. I'll certainly keep my eyes open. If it looks viable, I'll definitely be in touch.

Quote
ProStation Audio Platinum will be included WITH MorphOS. It IS the same version that ships today for 360 Euros with the exception of one MPEG library that allows it to function as a DVD player. This ONE library could not be sub-licensed. Everything else is included.


That is truely fantastic. I take my virtual hat off to you. :-D
My main interest is recording music and this type of news is exactly my cup of tea. Even the 'lite' version would have been great news.
Title: Re: Pro Audio development for AmigaOS4 & MorphOS
Post by: on March 15, 2003, 06:17:04 PM
Yes, it does run on Amiga os, however, PSA has been under development and optomized I think alot for Morph.  I am sure it will run on both AOS and Morph, but I suspect it will be better on Morph, however, I could be wrong.  I have herd nothing in regards to it being writen for AOS 4 but I could be wrong.  Iwill have to contact Maurizo and ask.  Its been a while since I have written him.
Title: Re: Pro Audio development for AmigaOS4 & MorphOS
Post by: Alkemyst on March 15, 2003, 06:50:17 PM
Quote
by Miranda on 2003/3/15 18:17:04

Yes, it does run on Amiga os, however, PSA has been under development and optomized I think alot for Morph. I am sure it will run on both AOS and Morph, but I suspect it will be better on Morph, however, I could be wrong. I have herd nothing in regards to it being writen for AOS 4 but I could be wrong. Iwill have to contact Maurizo and ask. Its been a while since I have written him.


Huge amount of speculation find the facts first before makeing out that your speculation may be true or not when the facts are in most cases very easy to find out.

No where on the site does it state optimized for MOS.
Title: ProStation Audio ready for MorphOS!!!!
Post by: bbrv on March 15, 2003, 08:16:32 PM
It is...;-)

R&B
Title: Re: Pro Audio development for AmigaOS4 & MorphOS
Post by: on March 15, 2003, 08:20:53 PM
Good Point speculation is bad.  But seeing that PSA has been using Dual processors and has been optomized for Power PC, and not to mention it has been running om Morph for some time now, not to mention Maurizo has been working with Morph OS for some time Now, over a year, Go ahead and speculate.  It WILL ROCK on Morph!!!!!! I know IT!!!!!!
Title: Re: ProStation Audio ready for MorphOS!!!!
Post by: Alkemyst on March 15, 2003, 08:27:58 PM
Quote
by bbrv on 2003/3/15 20:16:32

It is...

R&B


IF the PPC moduels dont work on Aone/Aos4 that are already there in PSA & they have no plans to make them work with Aos4 then its of no use to me as i will not use such timming critcal app in 68k emulation.

BBRV untill i see a statement from the PSA team about MOS optim,i will take "itis" with a pinch of salt.
Title: Re: ProStation Audio ready for MorphOS!!!!
Post by: zacman on March 15, 2003, 08:38:37 PM
>BBRV untill i see a statement from the PSA team
>about MOS optim,i will take "itis" with a pinch of
>salt.

Do you think Genesi are spending a huge amount of
money just for nothing?
Title: Re: Pro Audio development for AmigaOS4 & MorphOS
Post by: Alkemyst on March 15, 2003, 08:41:19 PM
Quote
by Miranda on 2003/3/15 20:20:53

Good Point speculation is bad. But seeing that PSA has been using Dual processors and has been optomized for Power PC, and not to mention it has been running om Morph for some time now, not to mention Maurizo has been working with Morph OS for some time Now, over a year, Go ahead and speculate. It WILL ROCK on Morph!!!!!! I know IT!!!!!!


Pls point me to the MOS optim demo of PSA see as Maurizo has been working with Morph OS for some time Now over a year.

Pls point me to any MOS PPC modules. & i dont mean just the PPC modules i Mean MOS ones.

Duel PPC & on what ? a Pegasos1 for over a year   i doubt it.
Title: Alkemyst NOT!!!
Post by: bbrv on March 15, 2003, 08:41:28 PM
Alkemyst...

"Salt is good, but if it loses its saltiness, how can it be made salty again?"

:-)
Title: Re: Alkemyst NOT!!!
Post by: Alkemyst on March 15, 2003, 08:47:23 PM
Quote
by bbrv on 2003/3/15 20:41:28

Alkemyst...

"Salt is good, but if it loses its saltiness, how can it be made salty again?"


LOL PPL accuse fleecy of not really replying to the questions asked.

If thats how your going to continue with replys to may questions then im going to have to talk to others who at least attempt to reply to the questions.
Title: Alkemyst NOT!!! (again)
Post by: bbrv on March 15, 2003, 08:57:14 PM

OK, you do that!

:-D
Title: Re: Alkemyst NOT!!!
Post by: on March 15, 2003, 08:59:04 PM
The salty sentence from bbrv was actually a quote (from Jesus ;-)).
Title: Bible
Post by: bbrv on March 15, 2003, 09:01:17 PM


Luke 14:34 to be exact...;-)


 8-)
Title: Re: Pro Audio development for AmigaOS4 & MorphOS
Post by: DaveAE on March 15, 2003, 11:39:22 PM
Hi,

I didn't really want to reply to this one, but here are some of my comments:

1.) The original post was about an API, not a product.
2.) It is well known for a long time that AE4 (lite) will be shipped with OS4. It seems that MOS is just copying this idea. Don't get me wrong: competition is a very good thing and I wish them luck!
3.) As Genesi can't raise the price for MOS (or at least not too much) although they've included a licensed PSA, and PSA is a 360 euro package, you can ask yourself why AudioLabs has agreed to license it. Rumour has they're porting to PC.. You do the math... :-)

Just to make sure: I think PSA is a good package, and have great respect for Maurizio.

Davy
Title: Re: Pro Audio development for AmigaOS4 & MorphOS
Post by: zacman on March 16, 2003, 12:08:47 AM
>It is well known for a long time that AE4 (lite) will be
>shipped with OS4

So what?

I found the first public reference about PSA for
MorphOS in December 2001 in an interview with
Ralph Schmidt.  So your point was?
Title: Re: Pro Audio development for AmigaOS4 & MorphOS
Post by: on March 16, 2003, 02:01:56 AM
I might have been - (and might still be at some point) - interested in the pro-audio capabilities of the Amiga-one - assuming I can get my next lot of money through so I can afford it - (the £8k I had did't last very long...:-( ).  It would be great if I could use 24/96 resolution, and the automation capabilities of the Amiga in tandem...

As it is now, however, I have a DAW on order (for £2k ) from Millennium-Music (http://www.millennium-music.biz) in Nottingham, England :-)  (It's going to take 3 weeks for them to build it...:-(  ).

I just hope I can write some decent stuff on it...:-)
Title: Re: Pro Audio development for AmigaOS4 & MorphOS
Post by: on March 16, 2003, 04:28:09 AM
PSA IS a dual Processor system, It uses the power PC of the Amiga as well as the 68k for other functions that are NOT so Processor Hungry and has been for well over two years.  Maurizo has been working at this a long time.  He even has functions that hit the x86 when emulating the Amiga on Those High end Emulators.  Bottom Line IS Maurizo is a BAD ASS programer and thinks well ahead of most in Audio, thats why Knowbody in the Amiga Market comes close to his level of Audio excellence.  The work we have done with it at EMRL is a case and point!!!!  IT works, Its Powerful and it does not Crash, at least it has not for me.  Morph audio freaks be warned, you are in for a real treat(-:
Title: Re: Pro Audio development for AmigaOS4 & MorphOS
Post by: DaveAE on March 16, 2003, 10:44:51 AM
Quote

I found the first public reference about PSA for
MorphOS in December 2001 in an interview with
Ralph Schmidt. So your point was?


My point was about the bundling, not the general availability of a product for the platform. Lighten up! :-)

Davy
Title: Re: Pro Audio development for AmigaOS4 & MorphOS
Post by: DaveAE on March 16, 2003, 10:47:37 AM
Quote
thats why nobody in the Amiga Market comes close to his level of Audio excellence


I'm offended!  :-D
Title: Re: Pro Audio development for AmigaOS4 & MorphOS
Post by: Jose on March 16, 2003, 04:53:48 PM
Wow I'm surprised really  . Someone must be VERY pissed off  :-D. The lag time in windows is really crap from what I've heard. Using a RTOS or equivalente should be the best option for audio work. This means that there might be more potential cusomers than would seem to be at first sight.
By the way is that an exclusive?

P.S. No I'm not a converted MOS user I'm just kinda neutral now.