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Title: Amiga Word Processor Recommendation Wanted
Post by: SilvrDrgn on March 07, 2003, 01:07:09 PM
I've been using ProWrite v3.3.2 in the past for word processing because it suited my needs just fine.  Last night I tried to use it.  However, it crashes my whole machine and send it into an infinite reboot loop.  I can't figure that out.  Anyhow, I'm looking for recommendations on an "up-to-date" word processor that will work with my CyberVisionPPC gfx card??
Title: Re: Amiga Word Processor Recommendation Wanted
Post by: PPCRulez on March 07, 2003, 01:18:34 PM
You have basicly three choices, Wordworth, FinalWriter or AmigaWriter.

I prefer FinalWriter and think it's a great word processor that keeps up very well compared to Word.
Title: Re: Amiga Word Processor Recommendation Wanted
Post by: SilvrDrgn on March 07, 2003, 01:28:31 PM
I downloaded and tried the v2.2 demo of AmigaWriter, but was not impressed.  One problem I had was I couldn't get anything to paste into a document from the clipboard.

Is there a demo of FinalWriter available?  If so, where?
Title: Re: Amiga Word Processor Recommendation Wanted
Post by: odin on March 07, 2003, 01:29:09 PM
From what I've heard AmigaWriter is pretty awfull.
Title: Re: Amiga Word Processor Recommendation Wanted
Post by: PPCRulez on March 07, 2003, 01:42:13 PM
The really sad part is that FinalWriter will not be easy to get hold of in any legal way :(

Too bad since it is the best Word Processor for the Amiga IMHO
Title: Re: Amiga Word Processor Recommendation Wanted
Post by: SilvrDrgn on March 07, 2003, 01:46:12 PM
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The really sad part is that FinalWriter will not be easy to get hold of in any legal way

Why is that?  (I know I can get AmigaWriter, but I don't want it.)  How about WordWorth, is that still available/decent?
Title: Re: Amiga Word Processor Recommendation Wanted
Post by: PPCRulez on March 07, 2003, 01:59:09 PM
Some people like WordWorth a lot, so I guess it is pretty good. I guess there are one wordworth camp and one FinalWriter camp. And I belong to the FinalWriter camp  :-)

Word Worth 7 is available from SoftHut

http://www.softhut.com/cgi-bin/test/Web_store/web_store.cgi?page=catalog/software/business/word_worth.html&cart_id=4103154_16193
Title: Re: Amiga Word Processor Recommendation Wanted
Post by: Ryu on March 07, 2003, 01:59:40 PM
Im a Wordworth man myself. I use it for all my wordprocessing needs, and have done for the past 5 years :-) before that I used penpal. Anyway if I were you I would get yourself onto AmiBench (http://www.amibench.org) and place a wanted for either version 6 or 7 of Wordworth, I used to have 6 and it was great, 7 is slightly better, though I am still hunting for a version of 7 that came on one of those small CD's, any of you lot got one? mine came on a full CD.
Title: Re: Amiga Word Processor Recommendation Wanted
Post by: SilvrDrgn on March 07, 2003, 02:01:01 PM
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Word Worth 7 is available from SoftHut

Yeah, just saw that by wandering over to SoftHut's site.  I'm looking for a demo so I can try it out first.

How about FinalWriter?  Can't get that anywhere?
Title: Re: Amiga Word Processor Recommendation Wanted
Post by: PPCRulez on March 07, 2003, 02:09:28 PM
I'm sorry I don't know of any demo versions of neither Word Worth nor FinalWriter  :-(

I haven't seen any shops actually selling FinalWriter 97 (the latest verion) anymore.
Title: Re: Amiga Word Processor Recommendation Wanted
Post by: Varthall on March 07, 2003, 02:11:42 PM
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SilvrDrgn wrote:

Yeah, just saw that by wandering over to SoftHut's site.  I'm looking for a demo so I can try it out first.


On one of my Amiga Format CDs I have a pretty good demo of Wordworth 7. I guess it was never spread over Internet; just ask and I will send it to you.

Varthall
Title: Re: Amiga Word Processor Recommendation Wanted
Post by: SilvrDrgn on March 07, 2003, 02:11:50 PM
@ PPCRulez, Bummer!

I just went ahead and placed my "Wanted" ad on Amibench.  Thanks for the suggestion, Ryu.
Title: Re: Amiga Word Processor Recommendation Wanted
Post by: Karlos on March 07, 2003, 02:20:52 PM
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PPCRulez wrote:
You have basicly three choices, Wordworth, FinalWriter or AmigaWriter.

I prefer FinalWriter and think it's a great word processor that keeps up very well compared to Word.


At Uni, I used to use the MacOS version Word 6 under Shapeshifter (when I had to be compatible with Word on the Uni machines). It was perfectly useable, but I preferred Wordworth ;-)
Title: Re: Amiga Word Processor Recommendation Wanted
Post by: AmiDelf on March 07, 2003, 02:22:58 PM
If not a word processor, its dtp, thats desktop publishing program and its very, very good. Final Writer got dtp tools too and such. I used Final Writer for Amitopia some time even.

Now Amitopia uses Pagestream v4.1. Its really nice, but then price stops you! Its really expensive. So I recommend to either go for Final Writer or AmigaWriter.


Regards,
Michal Bergseth, editor or Amitopia
url: www.amitopia.tk
Title: Re: Amiga Word Processor Recommendation Wanted
Post by: lurkist on March 07, 2003, 03:21:43 PM
I liked Wordworth, but had terrible trouble printing, so I tried Kindwords (like an early version of Wordworth by the same people) and it worked well, printing all my intellifonts on a non-text inkjet printer.
Title: Re: Amiga Word Processor Recommendation Wanted
Post by: Bandaren on March 07, 2003, 03:22:39 PM
"From what I've heard AmigaWriter is pretty awfull."

But have anyone actually  used the full version of AmigaWriter 2.2 and could tell a bit more?

And no bashing about H&P please. ;-)

Dan Andersson
Title: Re: Amiga Word Processor Recommendation Wanted
Post by: Marky_D_Sahd on March 07, 2003, 03:29:38 PM
As a user of both Wordworth and AmigaWriter, I can tell you that AW is lame.  The advertised functions don't work properly, it sometimes crashes without warning, amd, even with the upgrade, isn't friendly to TurboPrint.

Although SLOW, WW is excellent at almost everything I've had it do.  Printing on special effects, however, has taken as long as an hour.
Title: Re: Amiga Word Processor Recommendation Wanted
Post by: mikeymike on March 07, 2003, 03:32:33 PM
"Amiga Word Processor Recommendation Wanted"

You mean, one that doesn't capitalise the first letter of every word you type? :-)
Title: Re: Amiga Word Processor Recommendation Wanted
Post by: redfox on March 07, 2003, 04:34:25 PM
I have used three word processors on the Amiga:

Write, from the Amiga Appetizer package ... :-D
KindWords, from the Critics' Choice package ...  :-x
Final Writer, by SoftWood, Inc. ... :-D  :-D

I still use Write for simple stuff, because it is very easy to use.

KindWords had lots of features, but could not keep up to my typing or deleting speed.

Started out with Final Writer Release 4, upgraded to Release 5, then upgraded to Final Writer 97.
I would highly recommend any of these three versions of Final Writer.
Unfortunately, SoftWood Inc. is no longer in the business.

----------------
redfox
Title: Re: Amiga Word Processor Recommendation Wanted
Post by: bloodline on March 07, 2003, 05:10:30 PM
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KindWords had lots of features, but could not keep up to my typing or deleting speed


When it comes to Word processors, nothing really beats KindWords2, yup Commodore Software devision at their best!!! :-D  :-D  :-D  :-D

It even has a Spell checker!?!?!?! how cool is that!?!? The supplied fonts are only slightly useless and rather blocky due to their bitmap nature... damn I miss reall computing... Begone, Evil WordXP... :-D
Title: Re: Amiga Word Processor Recommendation Wanted
Post by: AmiGod on March 07, 2003, 06:03:54 PM
SilvrDrgn,

I own Wordworth 6 and it's great.  Unfortunately, Digita no longer support the Amiga, so any copy you get of their software, don't expect any tech support from them.  I believe the last version was 7.0.

A friend of mine bought Amiga Writer a while back to replace Final Writer, and while his words can't be reposted here for fear of me losing my account, suffice it to say that it sucks like a black hole in space.  Haage & Partner are behind this one, and it's still supported by them.  Go figure, the only good products that ever came out of them are AmigaOS 3.9 and StormC.

Final Writer, according to him, is still pretty decent, but like Wordworth, is no longer being supported, and you'll be hard-pressed to find a copy still for sale.  Softwood's web site has been "not available" for the better part of the last two years, although the domain name is registered till 2006.  Maybe they're hoping for a comeback. :-)

Personally speaking, Wordworth would be your best choice if you want to get close to what WordPerfect is like on the "PC".  But that's as close as you'll get, "close".

AmiGod
Title: Re: Amiga Word Processor Recommendation Wanted
Post by: AJS on March 07, 2003, 06:24:38 PM
There’s a small Wordworth update to 7.01 plus some Arexx commands on the kickstart Amiga page, both in Lha
http://www.kickstart-amiga.co.uk

Hope that helps some people

Regards
Andy
Title: Re: Amiga Word Processor Recommendation Wanted
Post by: machinehead on March 07, 2003, 09:02:06 PM
How sad there is no word processor for the Amiga.
Do you reckon that the A1 will have a better word processor?
I have not seen many apps for the A1.
I have Amiga Writer, but since I use Office 2000 for all of my writing needs, I've never really tried it out.
The point of owning an Amiga is the hobby of computing.
If you think that 10,000 users can come up with something like Office 2000 let me know your logic.
Title: Re: Amiga Word Processor Recommendation Wanted
Post by: Jose on March 07, 2003, 09:59:15 PM
I haven't used many WordProcessors, buy Wordworth7.01 (7.0 with the update) is a hell of a good product. I hope it gets ported to AOS4 someday.
Title: Re: Amiga Word Processor Recommendation Wanted
Post by: on March 07, 2003, 10:10:53 PM
http://www.compuquick-amigadirect.com/shop/Html/outlet_frontpage_db.html

under software, productivity - Wordworth - $69

You'll have to check the version.  You want V7.x
Title: Re: Amiga Word Processor Recommendation Wanted
Post by: on March 07, 2003, 10:37:49 PM
amigawriter has a lot of potential. for starters it can support ms word documents which is a very important factor for a modern word processor. but i do agree that existing versions are pretty poor, so i'd recommend wordworth 7 or finalwriter 97. despite these products being 5 years old, they are much more up to date in many ways than the recent amigawriter.
Title: Re: Amiga Word Processor Recommendation Wanted
Post by: mikeymike on March 08, 2003, 09:36:29 AM
@ SlamDunk

Quote
http://www.compuquick-amigadirect.com/shop/Html/outlet_frontpage_db.html
under software, productivity - Wordworth - $69
You'll have to check the version. You want V7.x


Have you dealt with this company before?  I did a couple of searches on their site, for Final Writer and WordWorth.  Final Writer doesn't come up with a version number (and is also under used software) and WordWorth comes up as 'WordWorth Office'.

First off, can I talk to these guys and get a useful response? (re: Final Writer version number)

Secondly, are they reliable/reputable?

Thirdly, is 'WordWorth Office' just WordWorth the WP, or is it more than that?  If so, is it any good at being more than just a WP (eg. does it have a spreadsheet too)?

Title: Re: Amiga Word Processor Recommendation Wanted
Post by: The_Editor on March 08, 2003, 10:36:35 AM
For just text bashing.....

Protext takes some beating.

For Document Processing I concur...

Get FinalWriter... Or   Wordworth

Their both as good as each other, although I lean towards FW.

Wordworth is available (somewhere) as an SE version.
Title: Re: Amiga Word Processor Recommendation Wanted
Post by: PulsatingQuasar on March 08, 2003, 11:57:23 AM
I have WordWorth 7 and AmigaWriter and would also like to have FinalWriter97.

Again what strikes me odd is that allthough WordWorth 7 and FinalWriter97 are not supported anymore, you can't even get them anymore!!!

How hard is it to burn a few CD's. And if they don't want to do that, why not release them as freeware and upload it to Aminet???

It's time I think that something like Back2Roots is done for old apps.
Title: Re: Amiga Word Processor Recommendation Wanted
Post by: poktis on March 08, 2003, 12:39:08 PM
FinalWriter ! Else :  MS Word
:)
Title: Re: Amiga Word Processor Recommendation Wanted
Post by: amigamad on March 08, 2003, 02:46:49 PM
Why not spend a bit and get pagestream.
get pagestream here (http://www.kicksoft.co.uk/) :-)
Title: Re: Amiga Word Processor Recommendation Wanted
Post by: The_Editor on March 08, 2003, 02:55:43 PM
Silver Dragon...


Check Email
Title: Re: Amiga Word Processor Recommendation Wanted
Post by: Croyzers on March 08, 2003, 03:21:56 PM
mikeymike

Thirdly, is 'WordWorth Office' just WordWorth the WP, or is it more than that? If so, is it any good at being more than just a WP (eg. does it have a spreadsheet too)?

I've got a copy of Wordworth Office. It has version 5 of Wordworth, a spreadsheet called Turbocalc which isn't bad, Digita Organisor and Money Matters. It's quite a nice package if you can get your hands on one. I also believe there was a later version that had version 6 of Wordworth on it.
Title: Re: Amiga Word Processor Recommendation Wanted
Post by: Acill on March 08, 2003, 05:46:49 PM
I used Finalwrite97 and I switched to Amiga Writer. I dont see why so many people bash on it. Once you get used to it, its actually quite functional. I like the fact that you can read word documents with it. Give it a try. I think you will like it alot, and since its still supported you can hope for updated versions.