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Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga Hardware Issues and discussion => Topic started by: sackbut3 on March 06, 2003, 05:04:05 PM
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I have an A4000 w/mediator board, 10/100 NIC, using AmigaSamba, MiamiDX and Tango connected to an PC running XP. Both are connected to a hub which has an internet uplink. I am able to see, access and transfer files to the Amiga from the XP box and I can also access the internet with the Amiga, but I can't see the XP box from the Amiga. When I load Tango it confirms the presence of TCP/IP, and the hostname of the Amiga but will not show the XP box after trying to Masterbrowse. I've tried a number of configurations
w/samba. I'm afraid I'll make things worse, which happened once before. Any ideas?
I'd also like to print from my XP box to the Amiga. How do I set that up?
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Well, for the first issue, I would look at the settings for your network configuration on the XP machine and make sure that "Firewall" isn't enabled. That will prevent the Amiga from seeing the XP box. As far as the printing goes, I'll let someone else tackle that one.
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Naaa...it ain't that. I can see it on the network with other PC machines. Plus, I forgot to mention this, before I got the XP machine this problem didn't exist. I was able to see 3 other PC machines on the LAN with the Amiga. Once I placed the XP box on, it stopped. :-(
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WinXP have other security as default....you should check your winXP users and permittions
and also maybe install the 'enable plain password' reg file or navigate, control panel/settings/administrative tools/local
security policys.
But first check that you have a Guest account on
you XP box, and that it have access to the machine...
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Are u using static ip adresses or DHCP?
If youre using static I suggest you configure an lmhosts file.
This means you will manually configure your host name and to what ip nr they match and save the file locally on your amiga as an lmhosts file.
Have u done this?
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Try turning off the local master and domain master functions of Samba -- WinNT (XP) does this by default I think, and when two machines try to do this, strange things happen, or at least that's been my experience.
Hope this helps!
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Well, for the first issue, I would look at the settings for your network configuration on the XP machine and make sure that "Firewall" isn't enabled. That will prevent the Amiga from seeing the XP box.
This same issue can also happen if you have installed a third party software firewall product like ZoneAlarm or Sygate on the Win-DOHS XP box.
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try reconfiguring Samba using Administrator instead of pcguest, that works with my 1200 / Win2K PC.
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SilvrDrgn wrote:
Well, for the first issue, I would look at the settings for your network configuration on the XP machine and make sure that "Firewall" isn't enabled. That will prevent the Amiga from seeing the XP box.
This same issue can also happen if you have installed a third party software firewall product like ZoneAlarm or Sygate on the Win-DOHS XP box.
You can use Zone Alarm / XP you just need to inform it off the ip address of the computer on the local Lan.
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Well first things first
1.) Are you using the same workgroup? This may seem like a stupid question, but doublecheck it.
2.) Are you sure you actually have file and print sharing enabled on the Windows XP box? You can find this in the General tab of the Local area connection.
3.) As far as printing is concerned, I would rather move the printer to the XP box, and print from the amiga to the XP box, than trying to sort out the reverse. That is easy enough to do, get a utility program that allows you to print to a file and execute a command on it, setup a simple batch file which sends it to the XP box with the samba tools. Once such program is available on aminet called PSpool (http://wuarchive.wustl.edu/pub/aminet/info/www/dirs/aminet/text/print/pspool.lha)
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Tango is actually kinda broken...If I were you I'd use SMBClient instead. Type in the shell:
smblient -L
If it connects and asks for a password, your network is fine. If it doesn't, something deeper is at fault.
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f it connects and asks for a password, your network is fine. If it doesn't, something deeper is at fault.
What is the account for which it is asking the password?
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sibbi wrote:
Well first things first
1.) Are you using the same workgroup? This may seem like a stupid question, but doublecheck it.
No, good question actually. I thinik I am, but to tell you the truth configuring MiamiDX is a bit strange for me. Just where would the workgroup assignment be in miami?
2.) Are you sure you actually have file and print sharing enabled on the Windows XP box? You can find this in the General tab of the Local area connection.
Yes
3.) As far as printing is concerned, I would rather move the printer to the XP box, and print from the amiga to the XP box, than trying to sort out the reverse. That is easy enough to do, get a utility program that allows you to print to a file and execute a command on it, setup a simple batch file which sends it to the XP box with the samba tools. Once such program is available on aminet called PSpool (http://wuarchive.wustl.edu/pub/aminet/info/www/dirs/aminet/text/print/pspool.lha)
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Well I tried this with no success one other time. I suppose I could try again.
Thanks
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It seems like the problem, at least from my understanding of it, is that instead of creating a LAN between the 2 computers (or more) with static ip numbers, ie 192.168.1.1 for the amiga and 192.168.1.2 for the xp, etc., both computers are linked to a pre-existing network in which their ip addresses are determined by DHCP and are dynamic. Thus the problem being how do I get each computer to recognize each other as well as have access to the internet?
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sackbut3, I have a setup similar to yours and I could never make Tango work properly either.
For connecting to other machines on the LAN I use SMBFS to mount a local volume on the Amiga. Works fairly well.
You might also want to look at SMBhandler.
For printing to a printer on the Amiga, that's very easy.
Just download LPx.lha from Aminet and follow the instructions. Worked first time for me!
If you need some examples of how to set it up, have a look at my live Samba config here:
ftp://samba:samba@amiga.serveftp.net/Samba
Note that I'm using a 3rd party parallel port, not the motherboard one, so the port name will be different for you..
Later,
Anthony.
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It seems like the problem, at least from my understanding of it, is that instead of creating a LAN between the 2 computers (or more) with static ip numbers, ie 192.168.1.1 for the amiga and 192.168.1.2 for the xp, etc., both computers are linked to a pre-existing network in which their ip addresses are determined by DHCP and are dynamic.
So long as your computers are on the same subnet (proper subnet mask, as well) this is a moot point. It doesn't matter what address range two computers are in, so long as they are in the same one.
Can you ping the PC by name from the Amiga? Can you ping the PC's IP address from the Amiga? If you don't answer yes to both of these questions, you most likely have a connectivity (TCP/IP) issue. You won't get Samba working until you resolve this.
Thus the problem being how do I get each computer to recognize each other as well as have access to the internet?
Well, first off, I'd tackle getting the access to the internet under control. You can't network an Amiga until you get TCP/IP working properly. If you are using DHCP, can you verify that your Amiga is getting a "sane" address? (ie, does it get one in the right subnet?) If it does, do you have DNS resolution (can you ping a remote computer by name?) Where you go from there depends on the answers to these questions, as well as some more detail of how your LAN is set up..... (What are you using for routing, is it NAT or direct route, etc...)
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@sackbut
sibbi wrote:
Well first things first
1.) Are you using the same workgroup? This may seem like a stupid question, but doublecheck it.
No, good question actually. I thinik I am, but to tell you the truth configuring MiamiDX is a bit strange for me. Just where would the workgroup assignment be in miami?
The workgroup is defined in your Samba:libs/smb.conf file.
Workgroups are a Windows only thing. Trying to access a Win box from any other machine means you have to make the other machine "part of the crowd".
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Castellen wrote:
sackbut3, I have a setup similar to yours and I could never make Tango work properly either.
For connecting to other machines on the LAN I use SMBFS to mount a local volume on the Amiga. Works fairly well.
You might also want to look at SMBhandler.
For printing to a printer on the Amiga, that's very easy.
Just download LPx.lha from Aminet and follow the instructions. Worked first time for me!
If you need some examples of how to set it up, have a look at my live Samba config here:
ftp://samba:samba@amiga.serveftp.net/Samba
Note that I'm using a 3rd party parallel port, not the motherboard one, so the port name will be different for you..
Later,
Anthony.
Thanks man, I'll give all of this a try.
Dale