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Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga Software Issues and Discussion => Topic started by: ruffneck on March 05, 2003, 06:37:09 PM
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What you guys think, is there a hope for official RealAudio player port after os4 is released?
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I don't really see a need for it, I dont use realplayer in linux, and never really used it under Windows either.
It's not a feature i'm going to miss :-)
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IMHO, both Real Audio and Real Video SUCKS.
It's slow, poor-quality, uses non-standard ports etc. Streaming MP3s give you much better quality and most people today have the bandwidth to enjoy this.
Related image :-) (http://carls.1av10.nu/real-buffering.jpg)
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I must agree, it is a bag of b... buffer. Even on my ADSL line streaming mpegs off a media server seems to be faster :-o
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Real audio is essential if you listen to radio stations on line in the UK.
All the BBC Radio websites use it.
Most English football teams have a "world" site now Eg
LCFC World
Forest World
Pompey World etc.
To listen to the media on those you need real player.
NME.Com uses Real
etc etc
Real is fine here with my cable modem and never had any problems with. Personally I like real more than windows media.
I thought the source had been released under the name helix anyway. IIRC its already been ported to linux.
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yeah, 1 picture is worth 1000 words:) @ tcarls
anyway, realaudio might suck, but radiostations and as well as some online music stores are using it.
and i hope with os4 there will be amigaonly users who might want to use these features.
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nah, the only radio I've heard is nectarine, it uses mp3 and sounds great ;)
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Realplayer is crap, it did have spyware in it, not sure about now but i would never use there stuff purely because it did have at one time
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What you guys think, is there a hope for official RealAudio player port after os4 is released?
None whatsoever. Real demand huge royalties, and I can't see AInc or Hyperion ever paying them. You'll never see RealPlayer on Amiga. Not ever.
But it's a load of crap anyway. It's horribly slow, jammed with filthy spyware, and it's quality is awful. Most of the time if I'm offered a choice between streamed video and downloading an mpeg, 9 out of 10 times I go for the mpeg.
If you want to listen to net radio, I recommend shoutcast. Too bad the Amiga doesn't have any decent shoutcast players, but rumour has it that a new and wonderful streamed mp3 player is being developed for the Amiga in some little-known IRC channel...
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Real audio is essential if you listen to radio stations on line in the UK.
It's not. Shoutcast is better by far. Real audio radio channels are usually overcommercialised trash.
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Why? Frogger supports the realplayer filetypes and
codecs, including realaudio. Only a script to stream
or, even better, internal streaming support is needed.
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so it's possible to listen to realaudio radiostatins with frogger? woah, nice
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RealNetworks software sucks badly and i would not recommend it but if you have to use RealAudio for whatever reason download V8 basic or lower, never ever use the higher versions.
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I really hope Real doesn't port RealPlayer to OS4, it's the most misbehaving piece of media software I've ever come across!
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Yeesh. Load RealOne on your PC, and watch the firewall activity. Spyware galore. If Real is *never* ported, I'd be delighted. Almost worse than WMP 9 and the DRM, as far as I'm concerned. :-x
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An official port of RealPlayer isn't in the cards. And I also don't understand the Helix project... I originally thought the point was to "bring fire to the masses", whereby Real would quickly release precompiled codecs for a bunch of processors, and using some kind of generic library interface. In reality, Helix packages exist only for Win32 and Linux platforms, and in their native library formats. One of these days I really must get on a Helix list and have someone explain it to me...
That said, Frogger interfaces with the binary codecs in Real's closed-source Linux PPC player, and Moovid will soon, too. I'd forgotten about streaming. HTTP streaming is trivial, and the latest RTSP streaming should all be documented on the Helix site, although it's largely an open standard anyway. Real's old PNM streaming is a sticking point, though, since lots of old servers use it, and I don't think Helix bothers with it. It's very closed-source and mysterious, including a binary communication channel and some kind of encoding/encryption on the incoming stream...but I think the Amiga coders are up to the challenge. :-)
I'm actually working at rewriting the StreamRA.rexx script that goes along with the open-source Amiga RealAudio player, and may take a crack at PNM myself sometime. It dates back to roughly RealAudio 2, so it can't be that high-tech.
68K support won't get much better, but full PPC support (and without the shackes of spyware) is virtually a given. :-)
Todd
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Quote: 'Too bad the Amiga doesn't have any decent shoutcast players'
With AmigaAMP shoutcast is actually fairly good, i use it a lot and it plays on and on for hours without one interruption.
The only downside is that there is no save option for shoutcast stations in AmigaAMP :-(
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Use Amplifier.
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Amplifier is crashy rubbish and chokes on faster streams. A much better shoutcast player for the Amiga is coming...and coming soon. :-)
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Hi Everyone!
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Hmm...my Spam Detector just went off the scale! My Alternative Agenda Meter is also recording huge levels!
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@ Darth_X
That thing better not be your new sig...
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That thing better not be your new sig...
HeHeHe.. Everyone is telling me my sig is too much. I'll try to cut it down a bit :-D
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IMHO, both Real Audio and Real Video SUCKS.
On the other hand, it's better than WMP (especially considering all of the crap that the EULA requires for WMP), and those are the only two choices you have to stream on a lot of sites. Quicktime is the best, IMHO, but I doubt we'll see an AOS port of that.