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Amiga computer related discussion => General chat about Amiga topics => Topic started by: ottomobiehl on April 06, 2005, 06:51:44 AM
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Has anyone seen anything about this (http://enterprise-linux-it.newsfactor.com/lnxtchbrf/story.xhtml?story_title=Hitachi-Develops-Advanced-Hard-Disk-Tech&story_id=32363&category=lnxtchbrf) story?
A hard disk drive unit of Japan's Hitachi Latest News about Hitachi Ltd. said Monday it has developed a technology that will set the stage for a one-terabyte 3.5-inch drive or a 20- gigabyte Microdrive.
Sheesh, I still remember back in the early 90's when I thought one gigabyte was huge. :-o
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Well,
The only interest of that kind of drive is storing media files like AVI or MP3
but do we have any need of such a huge capacity ? just think what we're doing with some little gigs hard drive with an amiga !!
I think it' just to be more attractive on mall adds or just to be the "strongest of the hearth". Do you really need the 256mb that your graphic card have ??
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One can never have too much hd-space or too much ram.
It´s still true, even if we are getting closer to having "enough" ram these days.
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Wow.... anyway i barely use 40GB :-)
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jlariv8957 wrote:
Well,
The only interest of that kind of drive is storing media files like AVI or MP3
but do we have any need of such a huge capacity ? just think what we're doing with some little gigs hard drive with an amiga !!
I think it' just to be more attractive on mall adds or just to be the "strongest of the hearth". Do you really need the 256mb that your graphic card have ??
In line with Dan's comment, the fact is that media data is large. Sure, all you kids do is pirate movies these days (or occasionally digitize your collection), but how about creating, say, a digital camera that's "always on," from which you later pull the frames you want?* "PVR"ing multiple channels at once, just in case you want to go back over one? Infinite undo?** Storing your CD collection losslessly, so you actually can pitch all those discs?
Not to mention that, even if you're unlikely to fill the space, filling it is a brick wall -- if you haven't been trapped with 1MB free lately, think how much time you waste culling and sorting, while "infinite" storage gives you the freedom to play fast and loose.
*Yeah, we're getting there already, and those "life recorders" pitched by likes of MS Research sound a bit iffy, since they destroy the idea of ephemerality from the get-go. But narrow it down a bit, and think of the artistic purpose -- no more missed shots, just wave your camera at what's going on, the shutter button serving just to "bookmark" frames of interest (and ensuring they don't get overwritten, when the end of the disk is finally reached).
**Of course, that trades out the time you spend starting from scratch for time spent protecting your privacy, but you could just remember to flush when you're done with a project, rather than have the computer assume you want to lose all your work. :-)
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I agree with floid .
I have got a 80mb and a 20mb in my pee cee, and i am constantly having to delete stuff to make room for other things.
media files withstanding, these days if you have l;ike 20 newis games installed, it eats into a 80mb HDD, leaving u not much space for much else
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JJ wrote:
I agree with floid .
I have got a 80mb and a 20mb in my pee cee, and i am constantly having to delete stuff to make room for other things.
media files withstanding, these days if you have l;ike 20 newis games installed, it eats into a 80mb HDD, leaving u not much space for much else
I assume your PC is a 286, am I right? :-)
Varthall
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jlariv8957 wrote:
but do we have any need of such a huge capacity ?
Consider these two articles from the BBC:
Miniature high-capacity hard drives (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/4411649.stm)
Bionic eye (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/4411591.stm)
Consider that if we get to the stage where you can record everything you see - how amazingly cool would that be? But also, how much storage room would it need, even if you only kept a three-day archive.
Just because we don't currently have applications that require so much storage space doesn't mean that we won't ever need that much room...
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Unfortunately you still need some form of a working retina for that. My mother lost 99% of eyesight on one side, bloodcloth in the artery to the retina and most retinacells died unfortunately.
Nevertheless developments like the above makes you wonder how long it will take before they'll be able to directly attach sensors to braincells themselves :-).
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I said mb three times lol :lol:
when i meant GB
no its not a 286, xp 2500+ barton core, with 1gig of maycxhe pair ram in dual ddr mode, , cpu ocd to 400 fsb so running at 2.2ghz
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odin wrote:
Unfortunately you still need some form of a working retina for that. My mother lost 99% of eyesight on one side, bloodcloth in the artery to the retina and most retinacells died unfortunately.
Nevertheless developments like the above makes you wonder how long it will take before they'll be able to directly attach sensors to braincells themselves :-).
And record everything we think, and arrest us before we have done it. Whether we were gonna do it or not won't matter.
Say you were daydreaming after watching a Dirty Harry film, and were thinking about a bank robbery. Immediately locked up. :-o
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@jlariv8957,
I do video production. I have over 500GB of harddrive space and still having to delete and archive things constantly.
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spihunter wrote:
@jlariv8957,
I do video production. I have over 500GB of harddrive space and still having to delete and archive things constantly.
This is true. No matter how big they make these hard drives we will always find a way of filling them up.
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Sounds like Parkinson's Law (http://www.answers.com/topic/parkinson-s-law) to me :-)
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@ottomobiehl
This is true. No matter how big they make these hard drives we will always find a way of filling them up.
Yea, Its funny that I have that much space now. I remember when I got my first 120MB drive for my Amiga 2000. I thought I was the sh#$$%%!
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Indeed, I threw a 1.4GB drive in my 1200 about 8 years ago - cost me an arm and a leg and I thought I'd never fill it up. 3 years lager I got an 8.4GB. 2 years later I got a 40GB. And now I've got an 80GB and the 40GB in there. I have a habit of keeping everything I do, storing ISO images quickly eats through your hard drive space...
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well as for HD space i have around 600Gig space and about 70 Gig free witch i could do fine with a 80 Gig but i tend to back upp all my cds and DVD in ISO files witch after a while eats HD space i think we get a bit more bad habbited the more room we get ..or would that be lazyness
adonay :-D
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adonay wrote:
well as for HD space i have around 600Gig space and about 70 Gig free witch i could do fine with a 80 Gig but i tend to back upp all my cds and DVD in ISO files witch after a while eats HD space i think we get a bit more bad habbited the more room we get ..or would that be lazyness
adonay :-D
Just think how much HD space you will need when High Def video becomes the standard. I suppose that games will be able to add more data because of more room to store the stuff. Also, I hate to think how big the windows (or any system for that matter) swap file will be when these drives come out
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Amiga users may not need (or may not think they need) a TB of space, but there are other uses for such things. Chip design involves large files, and lots of them. Google is increasing email again. Hotmail has zillions of email users. My MythTV PVR box has 580gigs, which sounds like and is a lot right now, but will probably feel a lot less spacious when I get my HD tuner working under Gentoo. I also want to hook a security camera up to this box as there' s been rather more vandalizm near my home than I'd like to let happen.
My first hard drive was 52Megs, my second was one gig that I thought I'd never fill up. Took me a couple months to fill it up... Given the space, people will find junk to put in there and then forget about, like a local disk aminet mirror or something. :)
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The industry is moving towards a zero-storage-management, always-on computing environment. High density storage advances in both memory and disks and large address spaces (e.g. >= 64-bit) mean never having to delete files or free memory when you need to allocate new resources. Services like Gmail are setting the stage for one hell of a paradigm shift.
And my money's on stem cell and other types of genetic research, not cybernetics.
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Trev wrote:
The industry is moving towards a zero-storage-management, always-on computing environment. High density storage advances in both memory and disks and large address spaces (e.g. >= 64-bit) mean never having to delete files or free memory when you need to allocate new resources. Services like Gmail are setting the stage for one hell of a paradigm shift.
"Zero Storage Management" ? I bloody hope not! I'd be out of a job!!
Mark == "IBM IT Specialist - Storage Management"
Still having a peek at IBM's research webpages shows I've a good few years of job life yet :-)
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@Trev
So, that means once something has been posted online it never goes away. Hmm, better be careful what I post then.
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Yup. And that's why I haven't been using my Gmail account--although I think they support deleting things "for real" now. Assuming usage patterns don't change significantly and assuming the technology is available, with 2^64 bytes of RAM in your system, you'll never have to free memory. Ever. I think that's irresponsible, as it indicates a shift towards more rapid consumption of resources in the real world. Social ramifications aside, it's exciting to see the industry getting out of its slump.
@argo
I think that's already a reality. It's quite embarrassing to read some of the Usenet posts I made during the early 90's. :-)