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Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga Marketplace => Topic started by: TjLaZer on April 02, 2005, 07:32:49 PM

Title: How many A4000/030 computers does this guy have?
Post by: TjLaZer on April 02, 2005, 07:32:49 PM
How many of these Amiga A4000/030 computers does this guy have for sale???  This is the 3rd one that he is selling on eBay and they all look exactly the same! WTF!!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&?ViewItem&item=5181757840
Title: Re: How many A4000/030 computers does this guy have?
Post by: Jeff on April 02, 2005, 07:35:15 PM
Look at his feedback.  Personally, I would find another auction.

Title: Re: How many A4000/030 computers does this guy have?
Post by: x56h34 on April 02, 2005, 07:37:50 PM
I think that in all 3 auctions he was the winning bidder on his own item (e.g. what was that expression again? Shill bidding?).

Just look at the bidding log and you'll see a pattern.
Title: Re: How many A4000/030 computers does this guy have?
Post by: Plaz on April 02, 2005, 08:04:01 PM
Looks like it's been pulled already, The link's dead
Or maybe my ISP is dropping that route today.

Plaz
Title: Re: How many A4000/030 computers does this guy have?
Post by: Darmaster70 on April 02, 2005, 09:18:40 PM
He's the one who paid $1325 for it from this guy.
Look here (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=4598&item=5161497877) :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
Title: Re: How many A4000/030 computers does this guy have?
Post by: TjLaZer on April 02, 2005, 09:36:38 PM
Here is one: (Reserve not met)

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=4598&item=5179396446&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW


Second one:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=4598&item=5176283463&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW
Title: Re: How many A4000/030 computers does this guy have?
Post by: TjLaZer on April 02, 2005, 09:40:07 PM
LOL Look at his first positive feedback!  Never saw a false positive before!!!! :banana:
Title: Re: How many A4000/030 computers does this guy have?
Post by: Docnheimer on April 02, 2005, 10:08:24 PM
I had to register here at Amiga.org just to add my two cents about this guy.

BEWARE OF MINESHAFT717!  HE IS A SCAM ARTIST!

Unfortunately, I'm one of his postitives!  He bid an outrageous amount for a ROM switcher, and although he paid within a couple of days, AND left me positive feedback when it arrived, he later disputed the charge on his credit card and I'm out the money!

I knew there was something fishy about him from the start.  He gave me shipping instructions to send to one name, but his Paypal payment was in another name!  He also used different e-mail addresses.

Again, I can't stress strongly enough, under no circumstances should anyone do business with this character.

Title: Re: How many A4000/030 computers does this guy have?
Post by: whabang on April 03, 2005, 01:02:48 AM
@Docnheimer
Bloody hell!
What a creep! :pissed:
Title: Re: How many A4000/030 computers does this guy have?
Post by: odin on April 03, 2005, 02:05:33 AM
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Docnheimer wrote:
Unfortunately, I'm one of his postitives!  He bid an outrageous amount for a ROM switcher, and although he paid within a couple of days, AND left me positive feedback when it arrived, he later disputed the charge on his credit card and I'm out the money!

He can do that so easily? :nervous:
Title: Re: How many A4000/030 computers does this guy have?
Post by: Effy on April 03, 2005, 07:58:41 AM
Docnheimer : I have been so lucky so far not to have met such a buyer, but isn´t it safer in general to send the object to the address of the one who does the PayPal payment ?? I also don´t understand why this buyer can dispute the charge on his credit card  :-o If you take the winning bid of the auction and add the shipping costs, what problem can there be  :-? Really, please do tell me because this is something I really want to avoid in the future !!! If you have lost the object and the money then it´s absolutely no fun anyore on Ebay  :-o
Title: Re: How many A4000/030 computers does this guy have?
Post by: Striker on April 04, 2005, 08:20:26 PM
Guy reminds me of spenceranne...
Title: Re: How many A4000/030 computers does this guy have?
Post by: TjLaZer on April 04, 2005, 08:55:54 PM
Well atleast this guy got somewhat of a little payback in that he WAY overpaid for this A4000/030 !!  $1,300?  Now he is trying to get his money back.  Good luck buddy.  Laugh all the way to the bank!!!  :banana:
Title: Re: How many A4000/030 computers does this guy have?
Post by: Joshua on April 04, 2005, 09:07:05 PM
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Effy wrote:
I also don´t understand why this buyer can dispute the charge on his credit card  :-o If you take the winning bid of the auction and add the shipping costs, what problem can there be  :-? Really, please do tell me because this is something I really want to avoid in the future !!!

In the US a credit card holder can dispute any charge, the vendor is then "charged-back" for the amount.  It's then up for the vendor to prove the charge was valid.  With PayPal in the middle, you're probably out of luck, as the credit card processing company would likely contact PayPal about the disputed charge.

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Docnheimer wrote:
he later disputed the charge on his credit card and I'm out the money!

I knew there was something fishy about him from the start. He gave me shipping instructions to send to one name, but his Paypal payment was in another name! He also used different e-mail addresses.

Are you sure it was /his/ credit card?  Sounds more like the /actual/ credit card holder disputed the fraudulent charges.
Title: Re: How many A4000/030 computers does this guy have?
Post by: Docnheimer on April 07, 2005, 03:38:58 AM
Sorry no reply for so long.  As I said, I don't frequent Amiga forums much anymore.  I was trying to decide if I should use the guy's name or not, but what the hell...

He sent me two e-mails, both saying his name was Steve Perryman.  He then paid me with a PayPal account from Steven Mattes.  The PayPal e-mail address was buy@biditup.com.  I ran a whois on biditup.com, and the registrant was Steven Mattes, and the address was the same address I was shipping to.  I checked out the web site www.biditup.com and couldn't figure out exactly what this alleged company does.  It all seemed really hokey to me, but he had paid, and I didn't have anything concrete to go on.  Incidentally, every Ebay transaction up until this point had gone smoothly for me.  Also, the guy left me positive feedback.  It wasn't until a month later that the charge was disputed.  Oh, and I also shipped USPS with delivery confirmation.

So, conspiracy theorists...any ideas?

Paypal says they are conducting an investigation, and they will get back to me.  The disclaimer is that if the credit card company honors the chargeback, PayPal will do nothing, even though they said that I qualify for their protecion plan.  I may have to wait up to 70 days to find out. If I don't get my money back, my next question would be "just what am I paying PayPal for?"

 :pissed: