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Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga Software Issues and Discussion => Topic started by: saimo on March 03, 2003, 01:23:59 PM
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as reported by amiga-news.de, it seems that Amiga, Inc.
pulled out the second release of the zine mentioned in the subject - it is said to be some 20-page thick.
The question now is: being restricted to members only,
is it possible to members to publically talk about the contents?
If not (as I believe), can at least they say if there is actually some interesting news?
As a note, I'd say that this can be looked at as a little sign of activity by Amiga, Inc. ... hope it's not the only one ;)
Sorry if this has been discussed elsewhere, but I just did not find any hint at it.
Regards,
saimo
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I suppose AInc can't stop people releasing things publicly, but ask yourself...those people who have paid $50, do they really want to share what little they got for it with people who didn't pay?
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KennyR wrote:
I suppose AInc can't stop people releasing things publicly,
well, I dunno if members had to sign some sort of agreement, so, before hurting anybody's sensibility, I thought it would be better ask, first.
but ask yourself...those people who have paid $50, do they really want to share what little they got for it with people who didn't pay?
yes, I had myself that doubt as I can see the bitterness of the whole situation.
Yet, if it had been me, I'd have been very happy of casting some light on today's gloom... and I think most Amigans would do just the same.
On the other side, I fear that the zine has so little (or irrelevant) information that's not even worth babbling about - of course I do hope that I'm wrong here.
Regards,
saimo
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I'm under the impression that this information will eventually be available to the general public (on the AInc homepage, I suppose), but that the Club members will simply see it before everybody else. Correct me if I'm wrong.
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SlimJim
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Hey mate, could you please send your newsletter for me? Or do you mean you are not my friend anymore? ;-)
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Well, I'm a member of the club but i cant see the magazine coz it asks me to log in. So i do, and then follow the link again and it keeps asking me to login.
Over and over....
Anybody else having this problem? i've tried in mozilla and IE my browsers are set up to accept cookies
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@Droid-
Yeah, I have the same problem (using AWeb II) and that AFTER I set Cookies to 'Always'.
'seems we're supposed to have some Club Icon appear but the 'Boing-in-sprocket' link just leads back to /cam/ and the log-on request for me!
Why don't they just use "best viewed with ANY browser" coding? That works for VHT-CAN and Eric Schwartz .........
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@ Droid
Well, I'm a member of the club but i cant see the magazine coz it asks me to log in. So i do, and then follow the link again and it keeps asking me to login.
IBrowse2.3 gives no problems, you can download a demo from the IOSPIRIT website:
http://www.iospirit.de/index.php?mode=download (http://www.iospirit.de/index.php?mode=download)
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That page should work on ALL AMIGA web browsers, if not then they are taking the piss.
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@Droid
And have you emailed the webmaster about your problem?
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@Paul_Gadd
Thanks for the advise and the attempted cheap shot but we're already way ahead of you.
The site works fine with ANY browser that has cookies enabled. The site login also requires that you have cookies SAVED as well as accepted.
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@Ray
Well, you really must make sure because you`ll get a severe roasting if Amiga.inc`s website won`t work with amigas!
:-D
There are some people here and at ann.lu who just love to jump up and bite the a$$ of amiga.inc at EVERY opportunity, try not to give them any excuses! ;-)
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@HMetal
Cheap shot? actually many people where complaining about it but at it is wonderful "Amiga inc" people should say nothing.
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I don't have any problems getting to the site or logging in.
But this is a valid question that has been asked. I've wondered if we are "suppose" to discuss anything there, and since I didn't know, I didn't discuss it. There was some interesting info in this issue. This one definitely had lots more stuff.
So what's the final answer Ray, can we discuss things that we've read there as long as we don't copy anything from there and post here (I know that will get us in trouble)? I would love to discuss pages 6 & 7 to get other users input.
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What is one of the features of being an Amiga Clubber that you cannot discuss matters that others can discuss freely?
Letsay you have a topic you find interesting....if they happen to cover or mention that topic in passing in their 20 page missive, you are under automatic gag order?
Wow, must be great to be a clubber, club me some more mr.amiga I've been a baaaad boy....
:-o :-o :-o
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What is one of the features of being an Amiga Clubber that you cannot discuss matters that others can discuss freely?
Just to inform everyone who is not a "clubber".
I didn't sign any NDA agreement, or any paper which told me i couldnt discuss the monthly news letter with others. But, the newsletter do have a copyright notice, so people can not just copy/paste the entire letter.
with that said, there was not much "news" value in the letter, put it did explain some things in better detail, for instance some of the features of Amidock.
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with that said, there was not much "news" value in the letter, put it did explain some things in better detail, for instance some of the features of Amidock.
Well I agree with that one that there didn't seem to be much "news". I thought the content of issue one was of more interest.
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works with voyager , aweb and ib2.3 here, just tested em all.... but ib2.3 is my fav browser.
anyway to all who is in the club letter , READ the policy before stating anything.
anyway nothing is allowed to be discussed unless its openly for all , but then again amiga users like to spread fud and talk dirty about everything so i think it wont last long till we have 90% of the mag here or on ann.lu.
sorry but i am starting to get annoyed at some people here...
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Paul_Gadd wrote:
@HMetal
Cheap shot? actually many people where complaining about it but at it is wonderful "Amiga inc" people should say nothing.
Ok, I can accept that as your reasoning. and I apologize for over-reacting.
However, Amiga people (me in particular) have been handling and replying to ALL emails received on this subject. If there is anyone having a problem now, they haven't e-mailed me (webmaster@amiga.com or rakey@amiga.com) detailing their problem.
I only have two things to note:
One is that the site (like all of our sites) uses PHP sessions. This means, like amiga.org's login and most other PHP sites with a login setup, cookies must be enabled and SAVED as well. One user had an IBrowse problem in which he accepted cookies but didn't have IB set to SAVE them as well. Once enabled, he had no problem.
The other problem is one of browser caching. For some reason, one or two users had logged in using a version of IBrowse (I do not know the version number at this time) and after he logged in and hit the "Club Amiga Features" section to find it said he needed to login when he had loged in already. I told him to hit the browser REFRESH/RELOAD button and lo and behold, the site worked fine thereafter. So, beware of browser caching on some browsers. Just imagine, if that's happening on os.amiga.com, what other new content are you missing on other sites due to a caching problem with your browser?
Bottom line, if something doesn't look like it's acting like it should, hit the refresh/reload button/hotkey.
..there, all explained.. :)
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But, the newsletter do have a copyright notice, so people can not just copy/paste the entire letter.
A copyright notice itself (as in "(C) 2003, Anton Berg") has no real legal meaning, it's more a warning/notice about who claims to be the owner/author of the document. Whether copyright laws should apply to the document or not is decided by other factors. Among others, the document has to reach a certain level of "work" (as in work of art, authorship, etc). A book is clearly covered by copyright laws. A leaflet about the author is signing his book in a bookshop on friday afternoon, might not be.
But even if copyright do apply you are allways allowed to discuss the contents in public. You are even allowed to quote parts, as long as you refer to the original author and you are not using his/her material in a (for the author) condescending or disadvantageous way. This is quite usual in journalistic publications and academic essays, etc.
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It's a pretty good effort.
If it were in paper format with adverts and fillers it would be getting on for the size and style of later Amiga Actives.
The fact that it's being released every month and the quality really does bode well for the near future.
If your not a 'clubber' don't worry - theres nothing earth-shattering! But then I didn't buy AA for the timely news flashes (perhaps it was the scantily clad girlies from Bournmouth!) :-D