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Title: Is KennyR allowed back yet?
Post by: on March 19, 2005, 12:37:02 AM
I miss his contributions to the Coffee House.  It's not been the same since he fell out with Wayne and got banned.

Surely i'm not the only one thinking this?

Wayne, can we have him back?
Title: Re: Is KennyR allowed back yet?
Post by: blobrana on March 19, 2005, 02:42:28 AM
Hum,
who was KennyR again?
 :-?
Title: Re: Is KennyR allowed back yet?
Post by: on March 19, 2005, 11:42:01 AM
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blobrana wrote:
Hum,
who was KennyR again?
 :-?


 :-o

How dare you? ;-)
Title: Re: Is KennyR allowed back yet?
Post by: Karlos on March 19, 2005, 11:45:43 AM
@mdma

Well, he certianly added a flavour of his own to the CH, that's for sure.

Somehow I imagine KennyR might not want to come back if the ban is lifted. Hurt pride and all of that :-/

Anyway, if he is allowed back and he does decide to return, let's hope he leaves the red v blue thing alone - AFAIK it was that old chestnut that ultimately got him banned.
Title: Re: Is KennyR allowed back yet?
Post by: Gelb on March 19, 2005, 05:14:28 PM
Obviously it was nothing to do with Red vs Blue, it was Kenny vs Wayne. Wayne just hates KennyR, that's all there is to it I guess. He hates his political views, he hates his Amiga views, he generally just hates him for being KennyR and he always did of course. And these days Wayne is in a constant bad mood, so...

All the accusations of Kenny trying to abuse this precious site, of trying to chase people off, of being bribed to do it by free hardware, even being blamed for hacking this overly appealing site, and generally having to put up with Waynes constant namecalling and lies was simply enough I could imagine. Wayne has done more ranting and chasing users off than anyone else here. He is even still doing it now that Kenny is safely gone, exploring Glasgows suburbs on his nightly alcoholised runs caused by the depression this ban has got him (joking). Hell, check it:  "Combine that with the few rabid puppies intent on screwing up this site and running off it's core members for their own purpose." (here) (http://www.amiga.org/forums/showthread.php?t=14640). Very Ironic.

The last stroke was the ban I suppose. Kenny will not be comming back as long as the Wayne stays a bitter old hypocrite who is more interested in running (and ruining?) the site as his whine log than as a discussion forum.

Cheers.


Title: Re: Is KennyR allowed back yet?
Post by: cecilia on March 19, 2005, 06:06:17 PM
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Wayne just hates KennyR
what a load of horse {Ashcroft}!!!!!  :-o  :-o

i've always liked Kenny, but sometimes he's like a dog with a bone and just doesn't know when to let go.

and your link doesn't work, btw.

much like your "logic"




ps, i noticed that you haven't posted since last summer...only came here to troll??????
Title: Re: Is KennyR allowed back yet?
Post by: Gelb on March 19, 2005, 06:24:29 PM
@cecilia

Fixed that link.

> ps, i noticed that you haven't posted since last summer...only came here to troll??????

Considering the amount of questionsmarks this question must be very important to you, so 1) Look up the definition of "to troll" in a forum glossary please, 2) Reread my posting, 3) Realise that I know KennyR better than you or Wayne, and that you know little or nothing of the issues between them. If you don't get it (aka, "I am totally clueless") don't bother to reply again, 4) I am sad that I can't do you the favour of posting on a more regular basis but usually I am busy coding apps like ANR and the like, 5) Thank you.

PS: Yes, I am sick of people like you who have to jump up and down without having the slightest clue just to find another creative way to apply the word "TROLL". Sigh.
Title: Re: Is KennyR allowed back yet?
Post by: Vincent on March 19, 2005, 06:31:37 PM
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Gelb wrote:
PS: Yes, I am sick of people like you who have to jump up and down without having the slightest clue just to find another creative way to apply the word "TROLL". Sigh.

And we're sick of Troll-wannabes.
Title: Re: Is KennyR allowed back yet?
Post by: the_leander on March 19, 2005, 08:00:46 PM
Gelb, I hate to break it to you but what Cecilia says is essencially correct with regard KennyR.

He could be a great laugh, a superb debater, could give profound insight into a range of subjects.

He could also be an utter prat at times, not to mention highly offensive. He could be as Cecilia put it be "like a dog with a bone". His bitterness with regard Amiga.inc (rightly or wrongly) was projected at every given opportunity, writing of folk who wanted help with amiga hardware past and present as being deluded or worse. This is a support site, not target practice.

I miss him greatly, but I don't miss the hassle that sometimes came with him.

There is an old operator saying "Don't go to war with the operator, for you will surely loose." Guess what, he went to war with Wayne and anyone else who dared to give him the moderators equivilent of a slap. He lost and deserved to.

Title: Re: Is KennyR allowed back yet?
Post by: Karlos on March 19, 2005, 09:46:58 PM
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the_leander wrote:
He could be a great laugh...


Has to be said, he was king of the comedy cynicism. If I had a quid for every stitch I got laughing at some little remark or comeback I'd be able to pay the physiotherapy fees to uncramp the stomach those belly laughs caused in the first place.

I can still remember the one about the kinetically rechargable torch, that remark about being sillouetted against the meagre backlight of a night time window, frantically pumping a rod shaped object...

I almost wet myself that time :lol:
Title: Re: Is KennyR allowed back yet?
Post by: cecilia on March 19, 2005, 11:32:10 PM
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Gelb wrote:
@cecilia

Fixed that link.


thank you.

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) Look up the definition of "to troll" in a forum glossary please,
this is the FIRST time i have EVER refered to ANYONE as "trolling", a term i generally don't like. but even I could tell there was something suspect about your comment.


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Realise that I know KennyR better than you


sure, you know how his face scrunches up and gets all red when he's in one of his "scottish moods". I'll grant you that.

Rest assured, however, that I am familiar with his kind of Scottish character. One of my close friend (whom I've known for 20 years) is very like Kenny. Not exactly, of course.

However, I'm so familiar with the crankyness, the moral indignation, the brilliant intellect, the passionate manner, etc, that I can still make comments about Kenny and be at least 90% right on the mark.



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I am sad that I can't do you the favour of posting on a more regular basis but usually I am busy coding apps like ANR and the like, 5) Thank you.

glad to see you are a busy boy.

If you came here to take Kenny's place you have to do a better job of being witty, however.

Kenny has very big shoes to fill and dispite what you may believe, most of us here (including Wayne) really do love Kenny.

And we really do miss him.

Wayne just has to have some time out because this last year (or so) has been very very hard. Not an excuse. just the facts.
Title: Re: Is KennyR allowed back yet?
Post by: ltstanfo on March 20, 2005, 04:22:53 AM
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Gelb wrote:
Obviously it was nothing to do with Red vs Blue, it was Kenny vs Wayne. Wayne just hates KennyR, that's all there is to it I guess. He hates his political views, he hates his Amiga views, he generally just hates him for being KennyR and he always did of course. And these days Wayne is in a constant bad mood, so...


Gelb,

You are most certainly entitled to your opinion(s) but as a moderator here at AO, I can tell you that your thoughts on this issue are as far off the provervial mark as they could possibly be.  I saw some of KennyR's comments.  KennyR got himself banned, plain and simple.

Even I admit to missing his "unique" viewpoints and he did make the CH "interesting" at times but he went over the line more than once and Wayne was left with no option (IMO - ask any of the other moderators and I don't think you will find any disagreement).  What so many users here seem to (conveniently) forget is that AO is run and owned by Wayne Hunt. He made the rules, and they are posted for everyone to see.  You break those rules enough and something is going to happen.  This is not limited to AO.

In any event, I wish KennyR well.

Regards,
ltstanfo
Title: Re: Is KennyR allowed back yet?
Post by: bloodline on March 20, 2005, 08:53:35 AM
I miss Kenny's posts, too... I'd gladly put up with the views I didn't like, because he was so good at expressing himself :-)
Title: Re: Is KennyR allowed back yet?
Post by: Gelb on March 20, 2005, 11:03:58 AM
>> KennyR got himself banned.

I can't disagree with that. Not trying to appease the Wayne-beast's bad attitude is going to get you banned sooner or later on this site. I wouldn't agree with "plain and simple" though.

>> What so many users here seem to (conveniently) forget is that AO is run and owned by Wayne Hunt. He made the rules, and they are posted for everyone to see.

The kind of "rules" he got banned for are not written down for anyone to see.
They're just in Wayne's head. He makes them up as he goes along, and worst of all they never apply to him. Wayne slandered Kenny, Kenny responded by mocking him with his own cheap words - but, unlike Wayne, without breaking the site rules. Remember this.
And that only came after many public and private message rants and insults from Wayne.
If Wayne doesn't want trouble, he should learn to live by his own rules - and that includes personal insults, slander, and accusations of criminal activity - all fired at KennyR. If Wayne wasn't the webmaster, if there was any justice he would the one banned for his behaviour instead.

Understand this though. I am only trying to get others to understand why he was banned. The real reason, not the lame "you broke the rules, you got banned" excuse.

I will leave you guys alone now. If you really want Kenny to be comming back here, consider writing a couple of emails to him and Wayne.


Title: Re: Is KennyR allowed back yet?
Post by: bloodline on March 20, 2005, 11:52:11 AM
It's Wayne's site, he can do what he likes. If kenny wants to come back then I'm sure he will, if not :-?
Title: Re: Is KennyR allowed back yet?
Post by: Karlos on March 20, 2005, 12:09:22 PM
@gelb

P*ssing off the webmaster or moderators is one thing; lots of us have done that at some point.

Repeatedly rubbing them up the wrong way is something else.

I miss his dour humour but seriously, Kenny was no angel. It usually takes two to argue - the trick is knowing when to let an argument go. For all his intellect, that is one skill he doesn't seem to have fully developed.

BTW, nice avatar. 'bout time such an organisation was set up!
Title: Re: Is KennyR allowed back yet?
Post by: redrumloa on March 20, 2005, 01:02:40 PM
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bloodline wrote:
It's Wayne's site, he can do what he likes. If kenny wants to come back then I'm sure he will, if not :-?


.
PERIOD
PERIOD

That sums it up perfectly. Personally, I agreed with Kenny 95% on computers, 0.05% on politics, and 0.000001% on AO;-) I've spoken with Kenny one-on-one in the past, I actually like the guy. None of that matters though. This is Wayne's site and Kenny went right at Wayne's throat. Tellingly, I asked numerous times for Kenny to email me after the ban. I was completely ignored. Instead the anti-Wayne venom just increased. I'd like to think I could have diffused the situation, but Kenny didn't want it diffused.
Title: Re: Is KennyR allowed back yet?
Post by: Karlos on March 20, 2005, 01:50:43 PM
@Red

Fight you for top poster now we got rid of the clear leader...

;-)
Title: Re: Is KennyR allowed back yet?
Post by: cecilia on March 20, 2005, 03:57:22 PM
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Gelb wrote:

If Wayne doesn't want trouble, he should learn to live by his own rules - and that includes personal insults, slander, and accusations of criminal activity - all fired at KennyR. If Wayne wasn't the webmaster, if there was any justice he would the one banned for his behaviour instead.

Understand this though. I am only trying to get others to understand why he was banned. The real reason, not the lame "you broke the rules, you got banned" excuse.

all of this is such incredible bull-manure. last Friday night a good friend of some of us who are members of an amiga group went "missing" and now we find out he was killed in a traffic accident.
Do you really think this silly argument means anything compared to REAL life???

Just let this nonsense drop. in the long run it hardly matters. pay attention to what does.
Title: Re: Is KennyR allowed back yet?
Post by: Cymric on March 20, 2005, 08:16:46 PM
@cecilia:

To some people, life is what they write on the forums. I am very sorry to hear about your friend, though, and I wish you lots of strength in dealing with the loss.
Title: Re: Is KennyR allowed back yet?
Post by: cecilia on March 20, 2005, 10:40:25 PM
well, we are all coping.  :-(

what I'll never understand is the people who want to keep picking at scabs rather than letting them heal.
Title: Re: Is KennyR allowed back yet?
Post by: Karlos on March 20, 2005, 10:49:50 PM
@cecilia

My sincerest condolences. I'd just like to reiterate Cymric's sentiments too.
Title: Re: Is KennyR allowed back yet?
Post by: ltstanfo on March 21, 2005, 03:37:20 AM
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cecilia wrote:
well, we are all coping.  :-(


Cecilia,

I am very sorry to learn of your loss.

Ltstanfo
Title: Re: Is KennyR allowed back yet?
Post by: CU_AMiGA on March 22, 2005, 09:13:43 AM
Hey Yo!

I wonder how Wayne is going to react to this?

Regards,
Title: Re: Is KennyR allowed back yet?
Post by: T_Bone on March 22, 2005, 11:31:21 AM
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CU_AMiGA wrote:
Hey Yo!

I wonder how Wayne is going to react to this?

Regards,


Why? Why not just leave it the hell alone. They're people you know, if you want to be entertained go watch TV.
Title: Re: Is KennyR allowed back yet?
Post by: CU_AMiGA on March 22, 2005, 12:30:46 PM
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T_Bone wrote:
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CU_AMiGA wrote:
Hey Yo!

I wonder how Wayne is going to react to this?

Regards,


Why? Why not just leave it the hell alone. They're people you know, if you want to be entertained go watch TV.


All what i am i saying is Wayne has been very quiet about this, and hasn't said a thing. I wonder if it has something to do with the (sensible) comments being true.

Regards,
Title: Re: Is KennyR allowed back yet?
Post by: cecilia on March 22, 2005, 05:32:33 PM
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I wonder if it has something to do with the (sensible) comments being true.
why repeat my brilliant summations?? :-D
Title: Re: Is KennyR allowed back yet?
Post by: ltstanfo on March 22, 2005, 05:50:05 PM
Folks,

This thread can no longer serve any useful purpose.  While I respect everyone's (right to an) opinion, KennyR is gone and the only people who seem to want to continue this thread are those who now have a desire to attack Wayne.  

Unless there is an objection, I will lock this thread by the end of the day.

Regards,
ltstanfo