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Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga Marketplace => Topic started by: Managarm on March 18, 2005, 04:23:06 PM

Title: Monitors
Post by: Managarm on March 18, 2005, 04:23:06 PM
Hi, I hope someone can help. I've always used my Amiga with a television but now that I'm starting to upgrade my hardware (and the fact that the TVs dying)I want to get a monitor. The problem is this. What monitors can I use?

I've seen a few Amiga monitors on EBay but will they display the higher screen modes without flickering? Would a standard Amiga monitor (i.e the 8833 Phillips) support all the A1200 screen modes? Would it require something along the lines of the flickerfixer cards that I think the A2000 had.

Also I see lots of auctions for VGA and SVGA adaptors. These look cool but I've read that they can't support native Amiga screenmodes without a scandoubler.

Basically I want a monitor that can support all Amiga screenmodes so I can have a nice roomy workbench, whilst still being able to play games.
Title: Re: Monitors
Post by: pjhutch on March 18, 2005, 04:35:51 PM
A CBM 1084 or Philips would support normal PAL modes but would not DblPAL, you need a multisync monitor for higher resolutions. You can use the Overlay prefs to expand the Workbench a bit but those old monitors just aren`t really what you want. A SVGA monitor + scandoubler would work wonders...
Title: Re: Monitors
Post by: Managarm on March 18, 2005, 04:44:08 PM
Cool, thankyou. I'll stick away from older models. Would I experience any difficulties with running games with a SVGA monitor? I mean ones that don't load through workbench. I've also never seen a scandoubler on EBay, would a multisync monitor comfortably support all screenmodes?
Title: Re: Monitors
Post by: Matt_H on March 18, 2005, 05:05:53 PM
Multisync monitors are the best you can get for non-RTG Amigas. The problem is, recent ones aren't actually multisync enough... if that makes sense. You need a monitor that supports frequencies from 15KHz through 31KHz. I don't think there's been one produced for the general consumer marketplace in at least 7 years.

Some examples of true multisyncs:
Electrohome 1440
CEI 1962
Nec Multisync 3D
Commodore 1942(close enough), 1950, 1960

Check the http://www.amiga-hardware.com Monitors section for more complete specs/lists
Title: Re: Monitors
Post by: SilvrDrgn on March 18, 2005, 06:44:46 PM
Add CTX AD-1970 to that multisync monitor list.  I still have one connected to my A4000T.
Title: Re: Monitors
Post by: InTheSand on March 21, 2005, 12:31:50 AM
Hi,

Microvitec produced a range of Amiga-compatible multisync monitors that were popular in the UK in the 1990s (some were actually re-branded by Commodore and Acorn, amongst others).

It appears Microvitec still makes this style of monitor. Have a look here on Microvitec's web site (http://www.microvitec.co.uk/) and check out the Desk-Scan 1402. Only a 14-incher, but will do all the classic Amiga and A1200 screenmodes.

Alternatively, you might have some luck with certain LCD TFT displays. Some of these may sync down far enough...

 - Ali

Title: Re: Monitors
Post by: on March 21, 2005, 01:07:49 AM
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InTheSand wrote:
Hi,

Microvitec produced a range of Amiga-compatible multisync monitors that were popular in the UK in the 1990s (some were actually re-branded by Commodore and Acorn, amongst others).

It appears Microvitec still makes this style of monitor. Have a look here on Microvitec's web site (http://www.microvitec.co.uk/) and check out the Desk-Scan 1402. Only a 14-incher, but will do all the classic Amiga and A1200 screenmodes.

Alternatively, you might have some luck with certain LCD TFT displays. Some of these may sync down far enough...

 - Ali



Those LCD TV's must work, as they can feed off a TV aerials signal, so I presume the RF output from an Amiga would be just fine.
Title: Re: Monitors
Post by: buzz on March 21, 2005, 01:26:01 AM
Or something like this :

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3879412872

which I just bought.. for my a500 and c64 :D
Title: Re: Monitors
Post by: on March 21, 2005, 01:29:27 AM
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buzz wrote:
Or something like this :

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3879412872

which I just bought.. for my a500 and c64 :D


Veeeeeeerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrry nice!!

Me want one!
Title: Re: Monitors
Post by: buzz on March 21, 2005, 01:33:42 AM
It hasn't actually arrived yet (due today), so I can't say that it works really. But it should (supports 15khz-50khz).

It has plenty inputs, but I bet I end up spending a fortune now on cabling ....

It's 11 years old, so I hope there is no screen burn etc. £160 (+40 postage) is a LOT of money to pay for an 11 year old monitor. But I'm hoping its of a decent quality. Back in 1994 they were listed for around $3,500
Title: Re: Monitors
Post by: Matt_H on March 21, 2005, 01:52:01 AM
The general problem with these LCD monitors with TV input is that they only seem to support PAL or NTSC - not both. If you can find one that supports both, or can get by with only one, then go for it.

@ InTheSand & Managarm

Forget about the new Microvitec. As I mentioned in another thread, I emailed them about it - price for a single end-user unit is over $1000. They're meant for industrial bulk purchases, unfortunately :-(

@ buzz

Now that is a fantastic looking display! I'm extremely jealous! :-)
Title: Re: Monitors
Post by: adonay on March 21, 2005, 02:01:17 AM
anyone know what thease sync at  Samsung 21" LCD Syncmaster 213T TCO03 Skjerm, Pivot

NEC 17" LCD Multisync 1770NX Sort/Sølv 1280x1024, DVI, TCO-03



the nec got a fammiliar name "multisync"