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Title: Getting away with a format in C: (Windows !!!)
Post by: Jose on March 09, 2005, 06:38:58 PM
Sorry,it's pee cee related but I need advice as to which software to use in recovering a big .zip file (around 200mb) I lost in the formatting of a 40Gb HD in my Athlon. Went to a near PC store where a "friend" of mine works and they told me it could take me 40$:pissed: That's almost the price of some professional recover tools one can find on the net.. the {bleep}s!
Title: Re: Getting away with a format in C: (Windows !!!)
Post by: Jose on March 09, 2005, 06:48:45 PM
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I know there's plenty of stuff on the net (warez and stuff) but I rather use something I can trust rather than a crack, even if it's just once, cause I really don't wanna risk this file (had plenty of bookmarks and also some information collected through the years!).
Title: Re: Getting away with a format in C: (Windows !!!)
Post by: nagaflas on March 09, 2005, 06:49:13 PM
A file that large is most likey going to be fragmented all over the hard drive, depending on how long it sat there.

Therefore, your only hope would be to call a professional, because any software you buy to recover the files will cost you as much as getting someone to do it for you.

Title: Re: Getting away with a format in C: (Windows !!!)
Post by: blobrana on March 09, 2005, 06:53:51 PM
Hum,
if it were me...

I`d not write anything to that drive...

And i would fit it into another computer...

And install professional software (http://www.recovermyfiles.com/) to that computer to recover the data...


(30 day trial software... (http://www.handyrecovery.com/))
Title: Re: Getting away with a format in C: (Windows !!!)
Post by: Jose on March 09, 2005, 06:58:36 PM
"A file that large is most likey going to be fragmented all over the hard drive, depending on how long it sat there."

Hi, you're not giving me much hope:-)... It sat there for like 2 days cause it was just a zip made of a compilation that I wanted to back up before reinstalling Windows2000 (I formatted to HD before installing it). 200mb out of 40Gb maybe there's still some hope. When the HD is practically empty doesn't it write first to the outer cilinders?

"Therefore, your only hope would be to call a professional, because any software you buy to recover the files will cost you as much as getting someone to do it for you."

The problem is that those so called "professionals" are many times just using a registered version a such recovery software, or even cracked, and they just use the software. That I can do too. Not saying that there aren't people that deserve that title but I tend to think twice before risking giving a whole bunch of money to people that may end up not deserving it..

 
 
Title: Re: Getting away with a format in C: (Windows !!!)
Post by: Jose on March 09, 2005, 07:08:22 PM
@blobrana

I tried that one yesterday (recover my files) and it seems to be of the best around. But I didn't like it that it only asked me to pay when I was about to save a couple of files.  
Title: Re: Getting away with a format in C: (Windows !!!)
Post by: Trev on March 09, 2005, 07:31:24 PM
$40 is a cheap price for a professional data recovery service. I'd be a little skeptical. But if they know what they're doing. . . .

And if you don't know what you're doing, you're likely to damage what you're trying to recover. . . .

Trev
Title: Re: Getting away with a format in C: (Windows !!!)
Post by: Jose on March 09, 2005, 07:37:10 PM
@Trev

Well, I have a general idea of how a filesystem works. If I save something or just simply boot from the drive I'll probably  risk writting over the file here, is there anything else?
Does anyone knows if NTFS tends to fragment files over the HD much ? If so I probably already screwed it..
Title: Re: Getting away with a format in C: (Windows !!!)
Post by: Tahoe on March 09, 2005, 09:03:49 PM
Clean format should be recoverable. I always use Easy Recory Pro by Ontrack. Once got a load of pictures from a 60 GB disk which was formatted, reinstalled and used for a month.... Fortunatly the DIR was untouched....
Easy recovery opens the disk as read only and you'll have to recover the file(s) to a different disk/volume.
Title: Re: Getting away with a format in C: (Windows !!!)
Post by: Cass on March 09, 2005, 10:04:38 PM
Just do not boot from this HD. In each boot/halt the system saves data to the disk, so it's more probable that overwrites empty blocks.
If the disk was already fragmented/full, it doesn't matter the size of the zip, as it is written in every free gap between the files.
Use the recovery program installed in another disk/system, and then mount the HD you have to recover the .zip , else leave this job to trusted professionals.
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Title: Re: Getting away with a format in C: (Windows !!!)
Post by: Trev on March 09, 2005, 10:37:52 PM
@Jose

Yeah, NTFS fragments files just like most other file systems--it's just supposed to be more efficient when indexing those fragments. (So, if the file system knows where to find the data ahead of time, it can avoid high-level seeks and allow the disk subsystem to perform an optimal read. I'm probably over-simplifying.) Assuming the drive has just been repartitioned and not formatted, it should be possible for a data recovery specialist or a good software packge to recover the MFT and the file(s) you need.

Head over to http://www.sysinternals.com/publ.shtml (http://www.sysinternals.com/publ.shtml) and check out "Inside Windows 2000 NTFS, Part 1" and "Inside Windows 2000 NTFS, Part 2" by Mark Russinovich. (NTFS has remained mostly unchanged between 2000, XP, and 2003.)

Trev
Title: Re: Getting away with a format in C: (Windows !!!)
Post by: Waccoon on March 09, 2005, 10:46:34 PM
Here's a free tool that works well for me.  Boot your machine from a seperate hard drive, then use the undelete feature.

Drive Rescue (http://www.woundedmoon.org/win32/driverescue19d.html)

NOTE:  This program has been discontinued and replaced by a new, commercial tool.  This is the older, legal, free version.
Title: Re: Getting away with a format in C: (Windows !!!)
Post by: on March 09, 2005, 11:01:25 PM
Try this bootable CD

http://biatchux.dmzs.com/?section=main (http://biatchux.dmzs.com/?section=main)
Title: Re: Getting away with a format in C: (Windows !!!)
Post by: whabang on March 10, 2005, 12:16:04 PM
ActiveUndelete is excellent, although the trial version only supports files up to 64 kb.
Title: Re: Getting away with a format in C: (Windows !!!)
Post by: kevh100 on March 10, 2005, 05:49:08 PM
Heres another totally free file recovery program...
http://www.officerecovery.com/freeundelete/

Kev
www.kphonline.co.uk
Title: Re: Getting away with a format in C: (Windows !!!)
Post by: Trooper on March 10, 2005, 06:04:11 PM
GetDataBack, I have used this on quite a few occations on friends drives to recover lost data through formats, virus attacks etc, And got back pretty much everything they needed.

http://www.runtime.org/gdb.htm (http://www.runtime.org/gdb.htm)

Trooper
Title: Re: Getting away with a format in C: (Windows !!!)
Post by: Jose on March 10, 2005, 06:26:28 PM
Thanks for all the suggestions... Too late anyway, I solved it last night, the way I can't reveal.. :-D