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Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga Gaming => Topic started by: Rich_Pags on March 04, 2005, 01:02:11 AM
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hello this is my first post
I was wondering if i can download amiga games and put them onto floppy disk and run the game on my Amiga 500
is this possible?
if anyone can help me i will be very greatful
thanks
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Do you mean download with a PC or with the Amiga 500? If you have a PC then you can't easily write to Amiga disks directly without an expensive floppy drive controller called a Catweasel MK4 (unless you can find an earlier one...)
There are a lot of Amiga 500 games at Back to the Roots (http://www.back2roots.org/) if you want to play them on your A500 then you need to get a null-modem cable to connect your A500 to the PC and get terminal software that will let you transfer files to the A500.
If you want to play the A500 games on a PC then the thing to get is WinUAE (http://www.winuae.net/) it will have instructions about how to download your Kickstart ROM to disk so you can run Amiga software on your PC.
And finally, welcome to Amiga.org!
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...And I'll just add that if you decide to go the Emulation route, Amiga Forever (http://www.amigaforever.com) is a fantastic package. Everything you need in one box.
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Are you asking how to write an ADF file to a floppy so the disk is bootable, or how to transfer ADF files to an Amiga to begin with?
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ADF file to a floppy so the disk is bootable
i wanna download the amiga game
and put it onto a floppy so it boots up on my A500
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Matt_H wrote:
...And I'll just add that if you decide to go the Emulation route, Amiga Forever (http://www.amigaforever.com) is a fantastic package. Everything you need in one box.
And if you live outside the US or Europe, you'll pay through the nose for it.
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First you need a way of transfering the .adf files to the A500. Either through a nullmodem cable, as said before. Easiest is with CrossDOS, although some won't fit on a DD disk. a high density drive would be a better bet (you can fit all files on HD floppy's).
Then on the Amiga you need a tool called ADF Blitzer, this asks you for an input file and writes it back to floppy.
Having a A590 (or any other SCSI controller) is the easiest way, and the way I do it. Get yourself a nice external SCSI CD-Rom drive, bang 640MB of ADF files on a CD and off you go!
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there has to be a more easyer way
cant i just download the game from the pc then put the game on a floppy then put it in my amiga?
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Rich_Pags wrote:
there has to be a more easyer way
cant i just download the game from the pc then put the game on a floppy then put it in my amiga?
No, there is no other way, you have to remember that the PC is not capable of writing a disk in Amiga format, unless you have a catweasal. I do it using WinUAE, a ZIP disk formated with FFS and a ZIP drive in each machine, works a treat.
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He can transfer the file between the PC and the Amiga
using a Null Modem. Its really fairly easy.
Just run a Dos Term prg. on the PC and a Term prg. on
the Amiga. I used JR Com on my A500 and TelTerm on the PC.
Worked great. Should still be able to buy a Null Modem
at Radio Shack for just a few bucks ($5 to $10).
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melott wrote:
He can transfer the file between the PC and the Amiga
using a Null Modem. Its really fairly easy.
Just run a Dos Term prg. on the PC and a Term prg. on
the Amiga. I used JR Com on my A500 and TelTerm on the PC.
Worked great. Should still be able to buy a Null Modem
at Radio Shack for just a few bucks ($5 to $10).
Far too slow if you ask me. Might as well go with emulation altogether.
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It is true that the serial port transfer can be slow, but it can also provide a means to get some new software over to his A500.
I have used ADF Sender Terminal in the past. It works well on my slow old K62-380Mhz with XP. I believe that it comes with Transwarp for the Amiga and includes good documentation on how to get started transferring files. (Even if you don't have any serial port comms software on the A500). (you will still need the null modem adapter or cable)
I believe that it takes about 25 to 30 minutes to transfer a 880K adf.
This can still be useful even if you decide go the emulator route. You can use it to transfer your favorite disk images from your A500 to your PC and then run them on the emulator.
-AmigaEd
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Hi
> I believe that it takes about 25 to 30 minutes to transfer a 880K adf.
Even with a slow 19200 baud connection (that is always possible) it doesn't needs longer than 7,5 minutes to transfer a single disk.
The main problem is to get the Transdisk or Transwarp software to the Amiga. Fortunately it must work to copy the "Transwarp" file to the Amiga using a simple terminal software at the PC and on the Amiga-side you should enter "copy SER: to RAM:Transwarp" into the CLI to write the file to the RAM-disk.
This should work (it works using two Amigas). Take care that the PC and the Amiga use the same settings for the serial-port (e.g. 19200baud, 8n1, XON/XOFF).
Noster
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The complexity of this procedure depends a lot on what kind of software and equipment you already have.
It's true you can use a nullmodem cable, but that only works if you have some kind of terminal software on your amiga already. If you don't, how are you going to transfer it?
Sure, you can save files to a pc-formatted 720k disk and mount it on the amiga, if you have a never version of workbench or some kind of crossdos driver that allows you to mount pc-formatted DD disks. If you don't, you're more or less stuck in a dead end.
So, if you can mount pc-formatted disks (720k) anything is possible really. If you have a harddrive it gets even easier. If not, then it becomes a bit more complicated but not impossible.
It's easier to tell you how to go about this if you let us know what you have. What version of AOS, do you have a harddrive, an extra diskdrive and so on.
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I guess it depends on if the A500 has a harddrive.
My A500 had a HD and I could do an upload to the
Amiga at the max rate of the serial port (33k I think).
Without a HD I guess the uploading to floppy would be
slow. But if its the only option available then it is
exceptable.
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It's true you can use a nullmodem cable, but that only works if you have some kind of terminal software on your amiga already. If you don't, how are you going to transfer it?
Additional terminal software is not required to intially get transwarp on to your Amiga system.
As stated above, the Transwarp application can be sent from your IBM PC and copied to disk or ram disk as follows...
1.) Set serial port prefs on amiga to match those on IBM PC. (it might be best to start at 19200 baud. You can experiment with faster speeds later.)
2.) Run ADF Sender Terminal program on IBM PC
3.) Now at cli issue the following... copy SER: RAM:Transwarp
4.) On the IBM PC select the Transwarp file and send.
Once transwarp has been transferred to the amiga, you can then use it to transfer ADF files from the IBM PC to 880K disks on the Amiga or the other way around. From the floppy to an ADF image file on the IBM PC.
-AmigaEd
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Well,
Do you want to do it in the elegant way? Get yourself a Catweasel floppy controller. With it, you'll do exactly what you intend to: you'll download an ADF, you'll transfer it to a floppy, and you'll boot that floppy on the Amiga.
The problem: price.
Another solution is something in the sort of PC2AMIGA software package, that allows you to access PC drives from the Amiga as if those were the Amiga's own (disk sharing), over a serial or a parallel cable. Then, once the ADF has been transfered to the Amiga you'll have to source some software to write the file into a floppy. If you have a bare A500, with no hard disk, then this solution can be very inconvenient.
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You can also use a Laplink cable and PC2AM found on Aminet. This way is considerably quicker than a nullmodem cable. Most ADFs only took a minute or so to transfer across, plus you can mount all your PC's disks in Workbench.
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I would recommend Amiga Explorer for this sort of thing. Although it's not free, it's by far the easiest software for pc - amiga transfer that I've used. I was putting a HD in my A600 a while ago and wanted to put it on there, but with only 1 mb ram (it's got 2mb now :-P) I couldn't transfer it to ram, so instead of that, I just ignored AExplorer's instructions and transferred it directly to the hard drive. Works a treat, and I'm sure it would work if you changed RAM: in the transfer command to DF0: and worked from there.
Plus, it's great because it's basically one-click adf writing. Just drag the adf onto the empty disk icon in AExplorer, and you're done.
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hehe.. you could also just get the necesary parts to connect the 500 to the net.. that way you'd skip the PC step :)
But I guess it's not your intentions to make it go on the net...
Just thought I'd suggest it...
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Rich_Pags wrote:
hello this is my first post
I was wondering if i can download amiga games and put them onto floppy disk and run the game on my Amiga 500
is this possible?
if anyone can help me i will be very greatful
thanks
I assume you have kickstart/workbench 1.2/1.3? If so, then you have to transfer a program like messydos or similar over to your a500 using a serial cable. This program will enable your amiga to read pc formatted floppies, so you can just put the adf files on a pc floppy and run a small program om the a500 to write them onto a disk.
If you have kickstart 2.x with wb2.1, then you already have crossdos included with your worbench that enables your amiga to read dos format floppies.
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adz wrote:
melott wrote:
He can transfer the file between the PC and the Amiga
using a Null Modem. Its really fairly easy.
Just run a Dos Term prg. on the PC and a Term prg. on
the Amiga. I used JR Com on my A500 and TelTerm on the PC.
Worked great. Should still be able to buy a Null Modem
at Radio Shack for just a few bucks ($5 to $10).
Far too slow if you ask me. Might as well go with emulation altogether.
Well, all he needs to do is transfer a program that makes the a500 read dos floppies.. once that program is transferred, then he can just put the adf files on a standard 720k floppy..
This is what i have done myself... and i have now probably transferred like 100 demos/games to my good old a500 :)
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You can get real hardcore and get an Amiga upgraded and on your home LAN, then you can just transfer the ADF from the PC or Internet to the Amiga's RAM disk and then write it to a real disk!
All you really need is a Amiga with a 020 or better with some Fast RAM, OS 2+ (3.x recommended), Hard Drive and a Ethernet card. An Amiga A600 or better yet A1200 would do just fine since you can get a very cheap PCMCIA Ethernet card for it!