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Amiga computer related discussion => General chat about Amiga topics => Topic started by: lempkee on February 22, 2005, 06:17:20 PM
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Posting this for a friend of mine , he can't post atm.
have a look at this project , quite cool.
http://www.loriano.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk
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Agree... quite cool but you would think he'd use some strips and whire hiders so there's not a wormsnest in there with such a big window. ;)
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Hmm... Pretty cool. I really dig the copper fascia. The DVD, floppy drives, fan controls and Amiga logo bay cover should have been done up with that, too.
I've never been much for transparent case mods, though... Especially when they reveal a rats-nest of wires and sideways jammed in expansions. It might be a neat effect if you tinted them dark and added a bit of a backlight, though.
Come to think of it, I might do that on my own project. :-)
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Ah, he really needs to get the drive faces off and sprayed with the same copper stuff. It isn't that hard for most drives.
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Looking Good!
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Thanks!
Hi,
I am TheDaddy! LOL!...I mean...I am the guy who "modded" the Amiga and made the website www.loriano.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk to share the project with other Amiga users.
I asked Toaks (friend of mine and Amiga Guru :) to post the link to the website for me because I couldn't post from the darn pc (both Mozilla and IExplorer suck big fat ones) so I have now re-assembled miggy (the one on the website) to post from IBrowse.
I'd like to thank for the comments left and underline a couple of things...
1) If you think the project stinks let me know because it's not Toaks' fault :) he only posted the link as a favour :)
2) As I wrote on the last page, this is a project that could go on forever, modifying, spraying, tidying up cables and so on but the A1200 has been sold so I had to take photos and post before being collected and with an A1 on my mind there is no more time to waste ;)
3) The drives are beige (not white) and left that colour on purpose so to match the Amiga badge and floppy disk drive, beige doesn't clash with copper and the silver controller fan would have been the only one in a different colour, this way beige is matched and silver picks up the silver from the Amiga name, controller and switches.
4) As I said the webpage was created very quickly to speed things up...sorry for the unfinished feel to it...
Thanks again...:)
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VERY NICE work.... I need a power tower....
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Hmm, it seems that Amiga case modding is currently at the same level as PC case modding was in 1997.
For the current PC situation, take a look at sites like:
http://metku.net/modgallery/mods.php?area=99
http://www.case-gallery.de/gallery.php?gallery_nr=1
http://www.moddin.net/gallery_view.asp
and especially stuff like:
http://www.thebestcasescenario.com/case_gallery.php
More can be found with google.
So, I'm eagerly awaiting to see a really amazing Amiga case mod / custom case, a little more than some paint and windows.
Please don't take this as an insult, but more like an encouragement to do even better next time.. It's always a good thing that someone decides to apply some creativity to the boring sea of beige boxen, but Amigans should set their standards so high that the end result is totally exceptional! :-)
Tidy up the cables, paint the visible front panels of your drives, paint the inside of the case, maybe have some interesting designs on the windows, inside the case, etc.. You can even be creative with the cables - instead of just buying rounded cables, stick them in tubes made out of metal mesh or modify them otherwise, whatever suits the theme of the case you're going to build.
There's loads of great ideas to be applied in the case modding galleries all over the web.
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TheDaddy! Nice tower!
Hard to make that PowerTower look good :)
When i get into retro-mode again, I'll finish my a1200 project too...right now i'm using my a1-c in a travla case so...
http://www.haymigga.dk/Billeder/PowerTower/tower0.jpg
http://www.haymigga.dk/Billeder/PowerTower/tower1.jpg
http://www.haymigga.dk/Billeder/PowerTower/tower2.jpg
http://www.haymigga.dk/Billeder/PowerTower/tower3.jpg
There's actually 4 CPU's in that.
BPPC (68060, 603-210mhz) Amiga Access (68030-50mhz), Onboard (68020)....
My plans were to have the Amiga Access serve as an always turned on gaming+demos+music player which i would control via a serialnetwork with the main A1200 (using Netkeys etc.)
I'd use my TV-Card for display. Pretty cool idea i thought!
So i could play WHDGAMES in a window that i could move around at will, returning to when i want etc. Damn nice! I managed to get working first with my a1230, and that was nice feeeling! No locking up OS!
But i never got it to work with the Access, because i encountered problems with the Amiga Access harddrive controller + no keyboard for it :(
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lucky haymiggan !!!! you've got an ACCESS!!!! :-o
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When i get into retro-mode again, I'll finish my a1200 project too...right now i'm using my a1-c in a travla case so...
Cool!!!!!!!!!! :-o :-o :-o
but still reminds me of a pc cant put my finger on why :-P
whats with the scsi cable?
adonay :-D
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a long long scsi cable i got from Toaks, it goes from the SCSI on the Blizzard (25) to 50 and then to my adaptec scsi-ide bridge i was using at time of taking picture...
reminds of a pc eh? it's a tower...> amiga is desktop so
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I can't help it, guys, but I find that case incredibly unattractive! Copper simply isn't my colour.
Good work, though.
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@jope
Sorry but I can't see a single cool case there I am afraid, they more like some kind of monstruosity from the pc modding scene... LOL!
>Amiga at the stage of 1997 pc?
I really hope we don't reach the stage when we put our beloved Amigas in vacuum cleaners like many pc users do!
>A little more than some paint and windows?
Apart from the fact that it has taken a long time to do "some paint and window, cut out the panels, cut out the Amiga badge and so on" but we are talking of an "original" Amiga case here (as far as I am concerned even if the Power Tower is a pc case, it's still been converted to host an Amiga properly) modified and as I have said on the website you could go on forever for example spraying the chassis itself and so on...
>Amigans should set their standards high?
If it's to end up like those monsters on the websites you posted then I am not in :)
>Tidy up the cables, paint the visible front panels...
Again as explained in the message above and on the website the drives were left beige on purpose and there was no time left to do anything else...
>being creative with the cables?
Yeah you could buy rounded meshed cables and so on and go totally nuts but you will never end. The difference here is that a bit of manual work has gone into it while other "modders" simply buy the parts and put them together.
>There's loads of great ideas to be applied in the case modding galleries all over the web.
There was no intention to make the Amiga 1200 super mega modded, just different and still recognizable as an Amiga.
@whabang
>Unattractive...
Question of taste...would have been better sprayed in black, silver, blue, red? How many cases there are in those colours? :)
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@Haymiggan
Hi mate! :)
Thanks I love your case too man! And I haven't forgotten I will send you the simms as soon as I can...(taking note!)
Thanks
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So you did take offence.
I'm still standing by my points. How many galleries did you really look at? Only the last one with the extreme cases?
I don't mean you need to build your macihne into a vacuum cleaner case, but in my opinion it's a bit pointless to make a window case if you leave the innards looking like a gutted animal.. More attention to detail and the end results are so much more pleasing to the eye.
The power tower looks exactly like a PC case - I used to own an AT case that looks like that in my first PC from back in 1995. Thus I don't really see your point in there being amiganess in it. :-)
But by all means, enjoy what you accomplished. at least you've left your mark on it.
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whabang wrote:
I can't help it, guys, but I find that case incredibly unattractive! Copper simply isn't my colour.
Good work, though.
Agreed on both counts. It'd look better if the faceplates matched, I think.
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@Jope
>So you did take offence.
Of course I did! Read your comments and see if they are not offensive. "Just a bit of paint and some plastic","I am awaiting to see a really AMAZING Amiga case"
What do you mean by that anyway, someone to produce a custom one for your royal pleasure to slag off or a pc case with lights and "rounded cables" in it like all the ones from the "pc scene" You are passing judgment!
And what is this crap "Please don't take it as an insult but as an encouragement to do BETTER next time!" WTF! Who are you to judge? Some sort of industrial design guru? The way you speak is totally pc devotee like I am afraid and it reflects in the way you talk about the "pc modding scene" and how behind the Amiga is.
Do you own an Amiga by the way? ;)
Excuse me but it's a project and it could carry on forever but for time reasons couldn't be done. You are spitting on somebody's effort and creativity...show us something you can do/have done with your hands, without just assembling pc stuff!
>I'm still standing by my points. How many galleries did you really look at? Only the last one with the extreme cases?
You can stand by your points, your choice, and I visited all the galleries and didn't like a single one, so you are assuming that I only looked at one gallery.
>it's a bit pointless to make a window case if you leave the innards looking like a gutted animal.. More attention to detail and the end results are so much more pleasing to the eye.
Please! Again you are patronizing and offensive. Why is it pointless to leave the innards looking like that, on the other hand it shows from all the angles the beauty of an Amiga1200 and its incredible expandibility. Also if you don't mind me asking did you read the website's notes and my recent post? Just because the cables aren't tied it doesn't mean the case isn't interesting, there are some lovely architectures, like the Lloyds building that have expressed and exposed structure but it is still an interesting piece of work (not that I am comparing my Amiga to the Lloyds building) ;). It might not be finished but you will rarely find a designer happy and satisfied with his work, there is always something that can be done to improve.
I can understand other people when they say "I don't like the colour" and that's fine. It's a matter of taste, but slagging off somebody's hard work is lame.
>The power tower looks exactly like a PC case - I used to own an AT case that looks like that in my first PC from back in 1995. Thus I don't really see your point in there being amiganess in it. :-)
Yeeeah! It's a pc case converted by Elbox/Power Computing. Ever heard of them? "It looks like your case from 1995" so what? It's probably the same one and?? Appreciate the fact that like Haymiggan said it's an admirable the effort to do something with it and make it look different.
>But by all means, enjoy what you accomplished. at least you've left your mark on it.
I am enjoying it, more than 1000 hits in a day, thanks.
@that_punk_guy
Again if you read the last page on the website and the previous post it says that there is a reason behind the beige plates and again the colour? Many like it and makes it unique, matter of taste again.
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@jope:
Your just being rude and obnoxious, let us see something you made then? :-x
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I really hope we don't reach the stage when we put our beloved Amigas in vacuum cleaners like many pc users do!
that's quite an ironic comment - The Amiga beat them to the vacuum cleaner look by several years!
Amiga Technologies was *way* ahead of it's time in developing bizarre case designs (http://www.blachford.info/computer/walker/walker_other_versions.html) - look at at the year on the first picture.
If you remember, even Apple was doing beige boxes back then.
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@restore2003
Thanks :)
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I must admit that its an impressive bit of modding, but there are a few things that I personally didn't like, the loose wires hanging around the case ruined for me what could have turned a truly exceptional case mod (and it is) into a true work of art, remember, cable ties and empty drive bays are your friends ;-)
The other was more a technical thing, specifically the fan arrangement, would it not have been better to have the fan at the bottom drawing air in and letting the PSU pull it out?
But again, a truly superb mod, worthy of Ars Technica if I'm honest.
I am always impressed when people go to such lengths to create a unique system, and this is no exception, you have done extremely well with this and don't let anyone say otherwise!
Anyway, whats wrong with vacume cleaner systems, I actually liked the Walker case :-D
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@the_leander
>I must admit that its an impressive bit of modding,
Thanks very kind :)
>but there are a few things that I personally didn't like, the loose wires hanging around the case ruined for me what could have turned a truly exceptional case mod (and it is) into a true work of art, remember, cable ties and empty drive bays are your friends
True, but with no time on my hands it had to be published like that. As I said the mod could have been carried on and on and on but an offer was made on the whole system so it had to be stopped. Yes I know that tied up cables give better airflow and all that but I didn' even have time to screw the panels in! LOL!
I had plans to make it an extreme Amiga and nearly purchased a water cooling kit. Having overclocked the PPC from 240 to 266 I was going to go for 300Mhz but then the cost of the kit and the risk of frying the chip advised me to be more sensible ;)
>The other was more a technical thing, specifically the fan arrangement, would it not have been better to have the fan at the bottom drawing air in and letting the PSU pull it out?
The PSU has a 120mm fan at its bottom sucking air from the case and one letting it out from the back so no massive need to add more fans, originally the case fan (3 colour led) was supposed to cool down just the Blizzard but then I placed a fan directly onto the PPC cooler so I reversed the case fan to suck air out. Technically speaking you should really have one fan at the bottom front of case to get fresh air in and one at the top left to let hot air out...but we are going into to much detail, and although the Amiga in this configuration gets quite hot (darn Voodoo3!) it doesn't need to be cooled like a P4 3.2 Ghz :)
>But again, a truly superb mod, worthy of Ars Technica if I'm honest.
Thank you...
>I am always impressed when people go to such lengths to create a unique system, and this is no exception, you have done extremely well with this and don't let anyone say otherwise!
Too kind :)
>Anyway, whats wrong with vacume cleaner systems, I actually liked the Walker case
Nothing wrong with it, one thing is designing a case "inspired" by a toaster/vacuum cleaner, another thing is sticking a motherboard into a real vacuum cleaner! I like the Walker too :)
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TheDaddy wrote:
>>So you did take offence.
>Of course I did! Read your comments and see if they are not >offensive. "Just a bit of paint and some plastic","I am >awaiting to see a really AMAZING Amiga case"
Yeah.. Seriously, having seen some truly fantastic cases, I find it hard to cheer for something that's been done lots of times before with varying success.
>What do you mean by that anyway, someone to produce a
>custom one for your royal pleasure to slag off or a pc case
>with lights and "rounded cables" in it like all the ones
>from the "pc scene" You are passing judgment!
You lost me on that, sorry.. I'm not a native English speaker.
>And what is this crap "Please don't take it as an insult
>but as an encouragement to do BETTER next time!" WTF! Who
>are you to judge?
No-one, but I'd really like to see some really great case mods by those of you who are handy with the tools.
>Some sort of industrial design guru? The way you speak is
>totally pc devotee like I am afraid and it reflects in the
>way you talk about the "pc modding scene" and how behind
>the Amiga is.
Not words from my mouth, certainly.
Look, the reason I have this opinion is, that you are modding in essence what is a PC case that has a special mounting bracket for the Amiga motherboard + a different back panel.
Thus the mods you do are going to be judged by the same standards that people judge mods done to ATX standard cases - the base case looks pretty much the same from the outside, but you can create interesting results when you apply a bit of creativity.
>Do you own an Amiga by the way? ;)
A4000/060
A4000/040
A2000/060
A500+/010
and a pile of other A500s
C-64 user since 1985, Amiga user since 1989, also a PC user since 1995. I'm not fanatic of any computer platform, I use what gets the job done.
>Excuse me but it's a project and it could carry on forever
>but for time reasons couldn't be done. You are spitting on
>somebody's effort and creativity...show us something you
>can do/have done with your hands, without just assembling
>pc stuff!
Now you're just taking it sooo verryyy personally. If you read my first post about this, I still feel it was written in a pretty encouraging tone. However now that we began to argue about this, the situation is different and my tone is different too.
>You can stand by your points, your choice, and I visited
>all the galleries and didn't like a single one, so you are
>assuming that I only looked at one gallery.
You only pointed out the "hoover style case".
>Please! Again you are patronizing and offensive.
Come on, take some constructive improvement ideas like a man.
>Why is it
>pointless to leave the innards looking like that, on the
>other hand it shows from all the angles the beauty of an
>Amiga1200 and its incredible expandibility.
No, it shows a tangle of wires.
>Also if you don't mind me asking did you read the website's
>notes and my recent post? Just because the cables aren't
>tied it doesn't mean the case isn't interesting,
Sorry, but as you looked through those galleries, you're bound to have seen lots of cases that were similar to yours. Hence it wasn't really anything that special in the case modding universe.
>there are some lovely architectures, like the Lloyds
>building that have expressed and exposed structure but it
>is still an interesting piece of work (not that I am
>comparing my Amiga to the Lloyds building) ;). It might not
> be finished but you will rarely find a designer happy and
>satisfied with his work, there is always something that can
> be done to improve.
True and I gave you some ideas, yet you took them as insults and that lead to the crap we're spewing at each other at this very moment.
>I can understand other people when they say "I don't like
>the colour" and that's fine. It's a matter of taste, but
>slagging off somebody's hard work is lame.
Slagging off.... Hmm.
The second post was not in such an encouraging tone any more, I guess I should have been more careful with my wording.
>Yeeeah! It's a pc case converted by Elbox/Power Computing.
>Ever heard of them?
>"It looks like your case from 1995" so
>what? It's probably the same one and??
You're missing the point. The point here was to emphasize that it is a PC case -> mods done to PC cases are usually judged by the standards set by other people's PC case mods.
>Appreciate the fact
>that like Haymiggan said it's an admirable the effort to do
>something with it and make it look different.
Congratulations.
>I am enjoying it, more than 1000 hits in a day, thanks.
Yeps. How many of those hits contacted you to say it was an exceptional design? This thread isn't very long, you know, only a few dozen people out of 1000 here.
The reason I pointed people to what's happening in the PC world is, that all the Amiga case mods I've seen posted to these forums so far (and this means the ones that are in basic modified PC towers before the user started their own modding affair) look quite similar to yours - paint, window, tangly wires, a few fans.
You guys can surely do more, I enjoy watching people do great things. However I am NOT one to just throw a generic "great job" remark if I think the creator could outdo himself with a few outside ideas..
The bottom line is, I only tried to give you and the rest of the Amiga case modders a few hints on where to proceed from these beginnings (ie. what was done outside the Amiga world a long time ago). If someone who has seen lots of modded PC cases surfs to your site, they might not think "wow, great job" but they could be thinking "oh, seen those, next".
I'm ready to admit that I have not done modded cases myself, but that's just because I know that what I'd come up with wouldn't be all that great -> hence I reckon I better keep the case's original appearance rather than ruin it with my shaky hands slipping with the dremel.
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restore2003 wrote:
Your just being rude and obnoxious, let us see something you made then? :-x
If being rude is trying to get some new ideas wedged in the Amiga case mod scene, then I am oh so rude. Obnoxious, dear god no.
The case we're talking about here is certainly an improvement to what it used to be (a boring beige box), but it could have gone so much further, hence I can not say it's amazing at this point. Paint and windows are the staple of case modding..
Just about every lan party goer has a painted windowed case with a CCFL tube inside it.. It's not something exceptional, even though modifying cases is less common here in the Amiga circles.
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Sorry for offending all of you, I hope I have reasonably opened my brain in the above long posting and you might now see why I think like I do..
I meant the original post as an encouragement to do better - I asked a few people I know whether they thought it was rude and they said that it was actually pretty objective. (of course people I know are most likely biased towards me and vice versa :-)
I could have slagged the case off, but if you read my post again without bias, you'll probably notice that it was not my intention.
Of course the creator of the case is bound to react protectively of his creation, but I was hoping that my writings were understood more like constructive criticizm rather than plain old fashioned slagging off.
Slagging off is something I don't do.. If I were to insult the case, I'd have said straight out along the lines that "I hate your case, what a load of crap". However I didn't say that or think that (however you'll probably never believe me).
I have nothing more to add to this thread - I think I've said all I have on my mind about the subject and made my points quite clear.
TheDaddy, please take a few deep breaths, calm down and read all we wrote. I have nothing against you or your case, we both got worked up over a non-issue. However I will not take back any remarks or go back and edit my messages from this thread, as I still reckon I have not acted in any way to be ashamed of. (certainly not obnoxiously, as our Norwegian friend put it)
I think the problem here is also a huge 1000km cultural gap. I'm from Finland, TheDaddy is from the UK. Over here we often say things straight and frank (however we try to be polite about it, I too tried but failed miserably :-). Over in the UK you're usually polite towards each other even if you really think otherwise.. At least that's what I experienced when I lived there as a kid.
So.. I don't know if we can ever shake hands and make up (I certainly hope we can), but TheDaddy, I hope we can both look back at this with different thoughts after a few months have passed and we've got most of the hot air out of our systems.
TheDaddy, if you want to continue debating this issue with me, please do it in private messages, I don't want to flood the forum with this any more.
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@jope
>Yeah.. Seriously, having seen some truly fantastic cases, I find it hard to cheer for something that's been done lots of times before with varying success.
This was in no way shape or form an attempt ot rival and compete with the pc modding scene, just an AMIGA exercise. When I showed to friends and people at work they were amazed of the results, from basic A1200 to modded up to date Amiga. Lots of them didn't even know the Amiga was still around!
I am not asking you to cheer for my case nor I am begging for your approval but your comments were the only ones I and somebody else found offensive and rude, coming from someone who has never attempted doing something similar.
>Look, the reason I have this opinion is, that you are modding in essence what is a PC case that has a special mounting bracket for the Amiga motherboard + a different back panel.
Ok so what? Does it make it less interesting?
>Thus the mods you do are going to be judged by the same standards that people judge mods done to ATX standard cases - the base case looks pretty much the same from the outside, but you can create interesting results when you apply a bit of creativity.
Please! There is no intention to compete with pc modders. I couldn't give a flying monkey about the pc scene and I don't want to be judged by any pc modding people. It was as it explains clearly on the first page, a way to show what you can do with a 1994 motherboard and in this case the Amiga1200. The pc modding scene is backed by multimillion dollar industry, you can buy lots of things that fit properly, the A1200 itself is already a pain in the arse to stick into a Power Tower imagine in an ATX case. No comparison and no intention to compete with no one. If even one person like it then I am happy, although, as we know numbers don't always mean it's right otherwise we could say Windows is installed on all the pcs on this planet so it's the best OS!
>Now you're just taking it sooo verryyy personally. If you read my first post about this, I still feel it was written in a pretty encouraging tone.
LOL! There are ways and ways to encourage people. You Assumed things, criticized, slagged it off as a bit of paint and clear panels.
>Come on, take some constructive improvement ideas like a man.
Err. excuse me, see the above comments, I wasn't going to compete with pc modding cases full stop.
>No, it shows a tangle of wires.
You again minimize my work and put it down. It's not a tangle of wires, there was no more time to finish it off, otherwise I would carried on with watercooling and all that crap but I am not a pc modder. Anyway it's a tangle of wires and pc mods are a tied tangle of wires.
>Sorry, but as you looked through those galleries, you're bound to have seen lots of cases that were similar to yours. Hence it wasn't really anything that special in the case modding universe.
ROFL! So fine. Were you expecting fireworks and dancing monkeys coming out of it! It's a transformed Amiga, I would never even imagine to try and compete with a pc modder for lots or reasons, one being I have a job like many others and I am not just a kiddie who spends all of his time on a pc!
>You're missing the point. The point here was to emphasize that it is a PC case -> mods done to PC cases are usually judged by the standards set by other people's PC case mods.
Again you are missing the point by a mile! I don't want to be judged by any pc person who thinks it's another windowed case. BUT if they knew it was an Amiga then things would be considered differently.
>Yeps. How many of those hits contacted you to say it was an exceptional design? This thread isn't very long, you know, only a few dozen people out of 1000 here.
Quite a few actually but that's not the point, I wasn't looking for people to say "hey man you are good!" Who cares, I just wanted to show what you can do with an Amiga and it was never on my mind to make it better than a pc.
>The reason I pointed people to what's happening in the PC world is, that all the Amiga case mods I've seen posted to these forums so far (and this means the ones that are in basic modified PC towers before the user started their own modding affair) look quite similar to yours - paint, window, tangly wires, a few fans.
Good. We like them like that, paint, window, tangly wires, especially tangly wires we love them and they are VERY different from pc modded case with their windows..paint and tidy wires...:)
>You guys can surely do more, I enjoy watching people do great things. However I am NOT one to just throw a generic "great job" remark if I think the creator could outdo himself with a few outside ideas..
Again, patronizing comment and of course we can always do better, but time, money and other things can't always allow it.
>The bottom line is, I only tried to give you and the rest of the Amiga case modders a few hints on where to proceed from these beginnings (ie. what was done outside the Amiga world a long time ago). If someone who has seen lots of modded PC cases surfs to your site, they might not think "wow, great job" but they could be thinking "oh, seen those, next".
Yeeah if it were a pc, obviously you would think "seen that", but if they knew it was an Amiga (and they knew what an Amiga is) they would judge it differently.
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@jope
>Sorry for offending all of you, I hope I have reasonably opened my brain in the above long posting and you might now see why I think like I do..
No prob.
>Slagging off is something I don't do.. If I were to insult the case, I'd have said straight out along the lines that "I hate your case, what a load of crap". However I didn't say that or think that (however you'll probably never believe me).
I believe you but it still made me feel uncomfortable hearing " a bit of paint and tangle of wires" What if I told that about you work?
>I have nothing more to add to this thread - I think I've said all I have on my mind about the subject and made my points quite clear.
Coll. Finished here too :)
>I think the problem here is also a huge 1000km cultural gap. I'm from Finland, TheDaddy is from the UK. Over here we often say things straight and frank
Here too and again you are assuming I am from the U.K. so I must be british and my way of thinking british too...I could be Indian, Bangladeshi, Italian, French, German, Swedish and living here that doesn't mean I think like all the british...
>(however we try to be polite about it, I too tried but failed miserably :-). Over in the UK you're usually polite towards each other even if you really think otherwise..
Generalization...
I always shake hands even if the are sprayed with a bit of paint ;)
Let's end it here... :)
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TheDaddy wrote:
>I believe you but it still made me feel uncomfortable
>hearing " a bit of paint and tangle of wires" What if I >told that about you work?
Yeah, I do realise my choice of words was way off.. I didn't mean to comment at your work specifically, but I couldn't get my thoughts down correctly.
>Coll. Finished here too :)
Great. :-)
>Here too and again you are assuming I am from the U.K. so I
> must be british and my way of thinking british too...I
>could be Indian, Bangladeshi, Italian, French, German,
>Swedish and living here that doesn't mean I think like all
>the british...
Yeah, sorry.. I didn't quite mean that the way it came out either.. I guess I'll have to move to an English speaking country for a few years again to become more fluent in "social English"..
Speaking about nuts and bolts is easy even in a foreign language, but social encounters are easy to really mess up. :-)
>I always shake hands even if the are sprayed with a bit of
>paint ;)
>Let's end it here... :)
Ok, I feel much better now that this has cleared out..
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Yeeah if it were a pc, obviously you would think "seen that", but if they knew it was an Amiga (and they knew what an Amiga is) they would judge it differently
Even if it is an Amiga, people have seen things like the tower that is up for discussion before.
Most Amigas is towered these days, and most of them in customized PC towers. Does it make it a case mod???
Not that it matters anyways.
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@doctorq
>Even if it is an Amiga, people have seen things like the tower that is up for discussion before.
I don't agree. Most of the people I showed the case to, friends, collegues and so on, at least those who knew what an Amiga looks like were surprized (nicely) to see the transformation. One collegue said:"NO {bleep}! that aint an Amiga!" so I started explaining what I did and how and then directed him to the website.
I agree that people have seen it before but that doesn't mean you can't have another shot at it and share the fruit of your work with other "supposedly" Amigans...
>Most Amigas is towered these days, and most of them in customized PC towers. Does it make it a case mod???
>So what? The fact that most Amigas are towered these days doesn't stop you from modding which I think comes from Modifying and from what I know even if you change just the colour of the switches or the front panel you have modded. It might not be EXTREME pc-like modding but you have still made an effort to make it look different hence it's modded.
>Not that it matters anyways.
It does in a sense as this is stopping people from posting stuff that might be interesting to other people. So in a way you are telling everyone NOT to bother if they have done something similar to their Amigas and consequently helping to put some "external" attention to the Amiga name as I have done through my website, only because..."it's been done, oh I have already seen that!"
It is also good to share ideas with others and by the way IKIR if you can read this I have received your email and thanks for the compliments. I can't manage to reply through IBrowse so if you can contact Toaks he can give you my email.
Thanks :)
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I don't agree. Most of the people I showed the case to, friends, collegues and so on, at least those who knew what an Amiga looks like were surprized (nicely) to see the transformation. One collegue said:"NO {bleep}! that aint an Amiga!" so I started explaining what I did and how and then directed him to the website.
A lot of people has said that about my towers as well, it doesn't make me feel special.
I agree that people have seen it before but that doesn't mean you can't have another shot at it and share the fruit of your work with other "supposedly" Amigans...
I have never said that people can't have a go at it. People are free to do what they like to do with their towers, paint, windows, led fans and what else that can be done.
So in a way you are telling everyone NOT to bother if they have done something similar to their Amigas and consequently helping to put some "external" attention to the Amiga name as I have done through my website, only because..."it's been done, oh I have already seen that!"
If you see it like that, then you have misunderstood my meaning with the phrase. I asked if putting an Amiga in a customized PC tower could be seen as a mod. If it is a mod or not, THAT is what didn't matter anyways....
Personally I think it is great that people post their work; it gives inspiration to people that are thinking of doing the same, and helps people to avoid mistakes others migth have made.
if you change just the colour of the switches or the front panel you have modded.
Different people have different opinions. I personally think a bit more has to be done to make it a mod, but I know some won't agree with me and that is the way the world works today.
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I don't really like towered 1200 computers. To me, a cool case mod might be to saw a hole in the top of a computer desk, then dremell into the bottom of the 1200, and install the ATX PS, the mediator, the PCI cards etc, in such a way as to make it look like you still simply have an unmoded 1200 sitting on your desktop, but the real machine is actually below the desk's top!
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@doctorq
>A lot of people has said that about my towers as well, it doesn't make me feel special.
???Hey??? We are not looking to make us feel special, what are you talking about??
> I asked if putting an Amiga in a customized PC tower could be seen as a mod. If it is a mod or not, THAT is what didn't matter anyways....
I think it is a modded case, yes. First because we have transplanted the Amiga, second the original case was cut into pieces to get to the Amiga badge and third windows, leds, paint fan controller does make a case modded because it has been MODIFIED!
>Hey by definition anything modified is different from the original, a car with a tuned engine and some skirts and neons is a MODIFIED car I am afraid.
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Why dont you all open a new case scene you call amiga case hack .I dont see anny reason to go bananas and compare it with pc modders.Rememmber the thing that counts is if you like (what you have done) I am thinking of hosting a amiga hack site with pics off different projects .hard core desktops are the coolest tho thats my opinion .the main thing is to be creative and be proud off your project\case hack i dont see anything negative with creativity ..if you like it say so if you dont keep it to your self .. couse some persons tend to like what they have done and like to show it to others .THIS inspires people and i think nothing bad about this ..
I dont intend to go against anyone here, i meen people have their own oppinons about things and off course i have to respekt this ass should you all.
adonay :-D
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Just a quickie...I have noticed this case on one of jope's links while re-browsing last night...
http://metku.net/modgallery/mods.php?area=99
The 7th from the top.
and I am pretty sure I have seen something similar, not as finished, somewhere else...but I don't remember where...
;)
Ciao