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The "Not Quite Amiga but still computer related category" => Alternative Operating Systems => Topic started by: Wilse on February 15, 2005, 04:25:03 PM
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Hullo,
Just filled my audio partition and now I get 'disk not validated'
messages whenever I try to delete anything.
Can someone reccommend a non-destructive way to rescue this?
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on MorphOS.
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Wilse wrote:
Hullo,
Just filled my audio partition and now I get 'disk not validated'
messages whenever I try to delete anything.
Can someone reccommend a non-destructive way to rescue this?
Scandisk? (Noting that you posted in the Alternative OS section...)
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D'Oh!
Sorry - meant to say on my Peg1, MOS 1.4.
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Well, AFAIK there is FFS repair util in OS4, so better move that disk to A1 for fixing... when it is done move it back to Pegasos. Nasty advice, but I cant imagine any other way to fix FFS partitions. All old FFS repair tools have 4GB limit...
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@itix:
Ouch - nasty right enough but thanks for the advice.
I'm surprised there is nothing for FFS on MOS.
Looks like I have a job in front of me..... :-(
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Just had a thought - if I copied everything I need from the partition,
could I just format it? I don't know where I'll find the storage space
but it's another option.
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Wilse yeah that would work, had to do that a few times when a PFS partition crapped itself. Ended up switching to FFS because the repair tools were just that much better.
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OK, I appear to have entered the disaster zone.
I took the drive out of my peg and put it into my A1. I couldn't get it to show up, no matter what jumper settings I used, although I realised when I awitched my A1 on that the dodgy partition has a namesake on the A1 but not all the partitions have the same names, so I was exoecting the others to show up?
Anyway, no joy, so I thought I'd begin plan b and put the drive back in the peg. Now the thing won't boot.
I get "error while trying to load or boot" and even attempting to boot from the original MOS CD (boot /pci/cd boot.img) doesn't work; "no filesystem recognised".
To further antagonise me, there is a pro-station audio track on the dodgy partition which is nearly finished. I had a fairly recent back-up on another partition but when I loaded it, some of the audio files were corrupted. Now I can;t get to them at all, so I guess that's moot.
I'm now starting to rant and mutter - I better have large drink.............
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Uhrgs... I feel quilty now. I didn't meant to try it immediately... I go to hide under rock.
(Edit. Although I wonder.. because MOS and OS4 read old Amiga HDs, and people have swapped HDs from system to another...but...)
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"not validated" just means disk is no longer writeable, but you can read disk still and copy files. You may lose last modified files, but once files are copied to safe place you could format partition.
Btw. I recall you have pre-april Pegasos 1? With those boards filesystem goes corrupt sooner or later because of cache coherency bug. That also means that files can go corrupt...
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I recall you have pre-april Pegasos 1? With those boards filesystem goes corrupt sooner or later because of cache coherency bug. That also means that files can go corrupt...
really??? damn! another little "bomb" connected to having these early boards.
i wonder how many of us pre-april orphans there are.....
and i guess there will never be a solution to this.
F :-(
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@itix:
Btw. I recall you have pre-april Pegasos 1?
Bugger - I'm not sure. I thought I had one with the april fix but maybe not.
I got it through the 'phoenix' offer, if that timeline means anything.
Needless to say, I'm a tad miffed. :-/
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There were two kind of offers... one where you paid 300EUR and got working board and another where you paid nothing and got someone 2nd hand return board. If you paid for your board then it is ok... filesystems just happen to explode sometimes.
But how did you connect/setup that HD to your A1? I feel ashamed because I brainstormed with this stupid "try it on another machine" idea... :-(
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Wilse wrote:
@itix:
Btw. I recall you have pre-april Pegasos 1?
Bugger - I'm not sure. I thought I had one with the april fix but maybe not.
I got it through the 'phoenix' offer, if that timeline means anything.
Needless to say, I'm a tad miffed. :-/
Have you tried mounting the drive under WinUAE?
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@itix:
If you paid for your board then it is ok...
I did.
filesystems just happen to explode sometimes.
Well, yeah but you'd have thought there might be some disc recovery tool or something.
This does not reflect well on the OS as a choice for me.
how did you connect/setup that HD to your A1?
I connected it to the 2nd ide i/f on the mobo, tried various jumper settings, then tried connecting to the same cable the A1 HD is on.
I couldn't get it to show up at all.
I feel ashamed because I brainstormed with this stupid "try it on another machine" idea...
Please don't. It's not your fault. :-D
If anything, I blame myself for not having a proper back-up and MorphOS for allowing it to invalidate but then having nothing to fix it.
If the disk recovery stuff on the A1 works, I have to say it could be the kicker that tips me to using OS4, rather than MOS.
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> Have you tried mounting the drive under WinUAE?
No PC.
(Actually there are three here, plus a laptop, spare mobo and cpu, but none of them are operational, and I don't have winUAE anyway.)
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This is going from bad to worse. I think I killed the drive when I moved it, as I can't get anything at all from it now. That might also explain why nothing showed up on the A1.
I have a 2nd drive in my peg. It's an old 10gig one which used to be my boot drive.
When I got my new drive, I moved the old one to the middle of the cable and used the new one to boot from.
I've now managed to get my peg to boot, from the MOS cd but only when I move the old drive to the end of the cable.
If the CD is not in the tray, the MorphOS logo comes up but then I get a black screen.
Is there any easy way I can check if my drive is dead and is there anyway to retrieve data from it?
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Wilse wrote:
This is going from bad to worse. I think I killed the drive when I moved it, as I can't get anything at all from it now. That might also explain why nothing showed up on the A1.
I have a 2nd drive in my peg. It's an old 10gig one which used to be my boot drive.
When I got my new drive, I moved the old one to the middle of the cable and used the new one to boot from.
I've now managed to get my peg to boot, from the MOS cd but only when I move the old drive to the end of the cable.
If the CD is not in the tray, the MorphOS logo comes up but then I get a black screen.
Is there any easy way I can check if my drive is dead and is there anyway to retrieve data from it?
There are professional data recovery companies who can recover the data from the drive.
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@Bloodline:
There are professional data recovery companies who can recover the data from the drive.
Oh, cool. Could you reccommend one?
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Erm, over here if it is a case of the HD is dead, then I'll warn you now, if its more then needing the circuit board replaced, then you will likely end up paying in the region of about £1000 per GB recovered.
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I just got an estimate of £950 - £2,000.
Looks like bye-bye demo songs.....
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Of course you could always let me have a crack at recovering the drive...
My rates are measured in beers per hour, payable on meeting up in person :-D
I can't garuntee anything but from what I can see you'll not be loosing anything by trying.
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@Leander:
Just saw this mate, as I was off in the land of giant mountains and 50p pints. :pint:
Of course you could always let me have a crack at recovering the drive...
My rates are measured in beers per hour, payable on meeting up in person
I can't garuntee anything but from what I can see you'll not be loosing anything by trying.
That's quite possibly the best offer I've had in years. :-D
Where are you again?
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Sheffield UK :-)
Of course you could come to SCAG on April 2nd and I could probably have a look at it there.
ping me in IM or using the PM system here if you want to talk further on this subject.
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@Leander:
Cheers for the offer. I haven't ruled it out but have been fiddling around again.
I now notice that when I boot my A1 with both drives connected, it boots straight into a shell.
Any tips on where to go from there?
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Wahey! I finally got the Pegasos drive to show up on the A1. I've now copied all the files from it that I needed, then quick-formatted it before copying the files back.
Now I have another problem.
When I switch on my Peg, the MOS logo comes up but then all I get is a black screen.
Booting from the CD works but no drives show up.
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What I would suggest is that you get a new hard disk, copy those files over to that, and then dump the current drive, it sounds like its all but dead anyways...
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it sounds like its all but dead anyways.
You might be right (although I'm not convinced) but I'm a wee bit too skint just now.