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Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga Software Issues and Discussion => Topic started by: Vincent on February 27, 2003, 02:27:20 PM

Title: Opera & Smilies
Post by: Vincent on February 27, 2003, 02:27:20 PM
I've just switched browser from Netscape 7 to Opera 7.02 Bork Edition and the javascript doesn't seem to like the smilies.  When I open the more window, all I get is...

l>

Javascript is enabled, it doesn't matter if Opera is set to be identified as IE6, Mozilla or Opera.

This maybe because you are doing stuff behind the scenes, but I thought you guys might like to now.
Title: Re: Opera & Smilies
Post by: on February 27, 2003, 03:11:29 PM
It all seems to be working fine here...

Ferseeun    7.02
Booeeld    2658 Bork ideeshun
Pletffurm    Veen32
System    Veendoos ME

 :-)

Are you viewing the page in author mode or user mode?
Title: Re: Opera & Smilies
Post by: on February 27, 2003, 03:15:45 PM
Thinking about it, you might have image download turned off (press G and see if that works)
Title: Re: Opera & Smilies
Post by: on February 27, 2003, 04:06:38 PM
I know exactly what you mean VincentAC.
I have the same problem here and I got Opera 7.1 from the opera site.
Unfortunately I think i will uninstall it because i use MSN  alot, and if Opera is loaded at the same time MSN closes itself.

Yep.. MS don't like you using alternatives to their products!  :-x
Title: Re: Opera & Smilies
Post by: Vincent on February 27, 2003, 04:26:39 PM
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scropp wrote:
Thinking about it, you might have image download turned off (press G and see if that works)


Tried it and it doesn't work.  But if the image download was off I should still get the list of Smilies, but there's nothing there except:

 l>

There's nothing else in the window at all.
Title: Re: Opera & Smilies
Post by: Loki1 on February 27, 2003, 04:40:56 PM
Same problem here as well!

Using Version 7.02 Registered.

Been using since version 5.0 and have always
had this problem!

Loki :-D
Title: Re: Opera & Smilies
Post by: Vincent on February 27, 2003, 04:47:40 PM
Glad to see it's not just me.

If I can't get it to work, I'mm gonna have to write down all the text versions of the smilies and keep it handy. :-(
Title: Re: Opera & Smilies
Post by: Mike_Amiga on February 27, 2003, 05:23:22 PM
I just had a go of Opera, came on a cover cd with Macworld. Pretty slow, haven't tested it on AO yet.

I can't seem to download images in IE 5.2.2 or any other version of IE in OS X,  does anyone know why?

In OS 9 I could hold my mouse button down and download an image to disk. Any answers? :-?
Title: Re: Opera & Smilies
Post by: Turrican on February 27, 2003, 06:24:27 PM
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I've just switched browser from Netscape 7 to Opera 7.02 Bork Edition and the javascript doesn't seem to like the smilies. When I open the more window, all I get is...


Why you did that?
Netscape 7 is way the best browser right now (excluding Mozilla > 1.01 versions), supporting the majority of todays standards perfectly.

Opera 7 has a nice skin though and handles most non-dynamic stuff ok, but I would put it behind IE 6...
Title: Re: Opera & Smilies
Post by: Loki1 on February 27, 2003, 06:46:12 PM
I havn't tried Netscape 7 yet, but Opera 7.x is vastly superior to Netscape 6.x IMO.

Opera does not support ActiveX controls (they view them as a security issue) so
you can't access sites that use them.

My favorite feature of Opera is its ZOOM feature.
It zooms everything (graphics/text/buttons etc)
and still looks good zoomed.It is a variable zoom
and is not limited to set incraments like IE & Netscape.

I have found only a few sites that I goto that are unusable in Opera.  
These I access via IE6.

I have found Opera 7.x speed to be just under IE6 and way faster then Netscape 6.x.  
Can't compare with Netscape 7 as I have not downloaded it yet.

Loki :-D
Title: Re: Opera & Smilies
Post by: Vincent on February 27, 2003, 07:00:23 PM
Quote

Turrican wrote:

Why you did that?
Netscape 7 is way the best browser right now (excluding Mozilla > 1.01 versions), supporting the majority of todays standards perfectly.


I've changed to Opera v7.02 simply becaus it's a hell of a lot faster than Netscape.  I generally don't need a browser with all the latest flash/shockwave/general plugins because I don't look at sites that need them.

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Opera 7 has a nice skin though and handles most non-dynamic stuff ok, but I would put it behind IE 6...


IE6.  I would rate that behind Netscape.  I only use IE if I need to save the pictures of a web page along with the page itself, other than that it's of no use to me.
Title: Re: Opera & Smilies
Post by: Loki1 on February 27, 2003, 07:08:55 PM
Ok, I have downloaded/installed/tested NS 7.

1. It is not faster then Opera 7.x.

2. As you can see, smilies work! (using for this message)

3. Zoom SUCKS, only zooms text and mangles the header of Amiga.org, zoom incramenst with Ctrl++/- are to large.

4. Still better than IE5/6

Loki

:ak47: :hammer:    :flame:  :quickdraw:
Title: Re: Opera & Smilies
Post by: Vincent on March 01, 2003, 04:55:55 AM
Oops, guess I posted this in the wrong place, sorry guys.

@Loki1

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1. It is not faster then Opera 7.x.


No, Netscape is not faster, the way I've found it, Opera is notable faster than Netscape 7.

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2. As you can see, smilies work! (using for this message)


Yes, the smilies work in Netscape, I just can't get them to work in Opera.

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3. Zoom SUCKS, only zooms text and mangles the header of Amiga.org, zoom incramenst with Ctrl++/- are to large.


I've never used Zoom before.  Let's see.  I don't like it at all, so no worries there.
Title: Re: Opera & Smilies
Post by: Trooper on March 01, 2003, 07:13:56 AM
Hi,

I have used Opera for a few years now and have got used to some of the issues. I currently use Opera 6.05 (Registered) and recently downloaded version 7.01 and i can agree that 7.01 is way faster than anyother browser. But i  found there was quite a few things i could not get on with, Like, The changed interface, Thing taken out that were in earlier versions,etc. :-x  So i went back to 6.05 which works ok with the smilies. :-)

Hope this helps,

Regards

Trooper
Title: Re: Opera & Smilies
Post by: Vincent on March 01, 2003, 12:37:20 PM
Cheers for that Trooper, I'll try and download that later on today and try it out. :-D
Title: Re: Opera & Smilies
Post by: levelLORD on March 02, 2003, 01:50:45 PM
Hi Vincent!

I'm using opera since version 3.xx, I think it's 3.60 and I love it! There is no better browser than that (at least for me). Right now I'm using 7.02 and it's working perfectly, actually, never better. OK, back to your problem. I'm just thinking that your problem is actually a java, you probably just have installed opera over old version and that's it? If that is true, you got to uninstall opera, java runtime environment and java webstart and to install new opera w/java again. Save your bookmarks before, and make sure to delete opera7 directorium before new instalation. If that is not an issue, I have no idea what it is... OK,
later

levelLORD
Title: Re: Opera & Smilies
Post by: Vincent on March 02, 2003, 02:58:19 PM
Cheers for that levelLORD :-)

I actually installed Netscape with Java before getting Opera, but I'll try wht you've suggested and see if it works.

Here's hoping :-)
Title: Re: Opera & Smilies
Post by: ShadesOfGrey on March 02, 2003, 08:08:14 AM
Are you supposed to see something like this (http://amiga.org/misc.php?action=showpopups&type=smilies&target=message,smilies)?

It seems to me that Opera is incorrectly parsing the URL, "http://amiga.org/misc.php?action=showpopups&type=smilies&target=message","smilies",300,430" in the javascript.  It becomes "http://amiga.org/misc.php?action=showpopups&type=smilies&target=message%22,%22smilies%22,300,430" if you cut and paste it to another window and "Go" to it.  Removing "%22" in the URL takes you to the page I linked to above.
Title: Re: Opera & Smilies
Post by: levelLORD on March 03, 2003, 08:29:28 AM
I just remembered something else... Go to opera's drop menu -->file-->preferences-->multimedia. Make sure that enable java and enable plugins boxes are checked, and click on fing plugins button. If there is no java plugin or whatever, reinstall opera, or at least java or any other plugin that doesn't wanna work. And finally, l just find out that _more_ does not work on my opera either... ;) Well, however you like, just dont use M$IE, please... :)))
later

levelLORD
Title: Re: Opera & Smilies
Post by: Vincent on March 03, 2003, 11:54:36 AM
Right.  Just tried a few things.

@Trooper

I can't find an earlier version of Opera to download, so I can't try 6.05 :-(

@ShadesOfGrey

The link and suggestion you supplied didn't work either :-(

@levelLORD

I installed Java with Netscape 7.0, then again with Opera.  I removed Java and Opera, and reinstalled them.  They still don't work. :-(

Preferences ---> multimedia, everything's fine there, all on what you've said.  That was the first thing I checked before posting here.

Don't worry, I won't be using IE6! ;-)  I'll use Netscape as a backup, failing that, I'll install K-Meleon aswell :-)
Title: Re: Opera & Smilies
Post by: on March 03, 2003, 02:01:48 PM
All that hastle over smileys?  I don't even know what you're looking at as I've never bothered to use a smiley.  I use Opera 7.  What should I be looking for to see if it works on mine?
Title: Re: Opera & Smilies
Post by: Vincent on March 03, 2003, 02:33:53 PM
Hi LordSteven

Under the box where you type your message there's a few smilies.  Click on the more... bit and you should get a small window open containing more smilies.

This still doesn't work here.

All this hassle over smilies?

Well, I do use smilies regularly, so I notice them, if you don't use them, you'll never notice.

I'm just annoyed that I can't get them to work.
Title: Re: Opera & Smilies
Post by: on March 03, 2003, 03:10:58 PM
Okay, no, it does not show in Opera on my end either, although the source did come through and you can view it.  Probably some Javascript issue as it seems to parse the the available smileys using it.  Does it work in IBrowse?  

:pint: I'll use this one anyway.
Title: Re: Opera & Smilies
Post by: on March 03, 2003, 03:17:50 PM
LOL, in the oddities of the world, it does work in IBrowse.  That's messed up.  I've noticed that there is some java script that Opera doesn't like.  My guess is that's cause they are striving to make a browser that is based on the w3c standards, while others are trying to make their's like IE which uses non-standards approved HTML and Javascript.