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Coca-Cola have finally realised that Diet Coke has a nasty after taste, you know that cross between phosphoric acid and a rusty nail that aspartame has... Anyway the great news is that later this year Diet Coke will be avaialbe that uses sucralose rather than aspartame.
WooHoo... :-D
Expect my Local Sainsbury's be sold out within hours ;-)
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I always thought it tasted more like dish-water... :-)
Doesn't matter anyway; everyone knows that Pepsi is far better!
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whabang wrote:
I always thought it tasted more like dish-water... :-)
Doesn't matter anyway; everyone knows that Pepsi is far better!
:lol:
I could never drink Pepsi due to the aspartame taste... That's why I've had to stick with regular coke.
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@ Bloodline
The diet Coke lime is quite good. You tried that?
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X-ray wrote:
@ Bloodline
The diet Coke lime is quite good. You tried that?
Yeah, I'm not keen on lime though :-/
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You wouldn't see me touching sucralose with a barge pole.
There's no way I'm freely ingesting chlorinated sugars. Sure, there's presently no evidence to suggest that your metabolic system can grab hold of it since the chlorine atoms have replaced the main hydroxy attachment points. Still, give it a while to become established and watch the next shock discovery that an hitherto unknown (which may only affect some) process in the digestive system is able to partially metabolise it, perhaps only in very small amounts.
However, therein lies the problem. It only does take very small amounts of chorinated carbon radicals to do an extensive amount of permanent damage.
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Karlos wrote:
You wouldn't see me touching sucralose with a barge pole.
There's no way I'm freely ingesting chlorinated sugars. Sure, there's presently no evidence to suggest that your metabolic system can grab hold of it since the chlorine atoms have replaced the main hydroxy attachment points. Still, give it a while to become established and watch the next shock discovery that an hitherto unknown (which may only affect some) process in the digestive system is able to partially metabolise it, perhaps only in very small amounts.
However, therein lies the problem. It only does take very small amounts of chorinated carbon radicals to do an extensive amount of permanent damage.
They testest this stuff for 26 years before it was approved for human consumption... that includes 15 years of testing on the population of Cananda :lol:
I'm pretty confident that it's safe... next you'll be telling me that you don't trust Teflon coated cookware?
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They've tested other substances a lot longer than that and discovered they were dangerous.
Just have ordinary sugar, and have a sensible amount.
Coke isn't exactly good for you no matter what they sweeten it with anyway :lol:
I was permanently put off by seeing what a leaky consignment of the concentrate did to the docks at my old town.
2 fire crews and a specialist hazmat team had to deal with it. That still didn't prevent it eating through reinforced concrete.
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Karlos wrote:
They've tested other substances a lot longer than that and discovered they were dangerous.
Which ones? I want names, dates... and did you love her...?
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How about nitrite salts as a preservative for meats etc? Used for centuries.
Discovered in the last 10 years or so to be responsible for the production of nitrosamines during normal cooking and especially frying. These compounds are highly carcinogenic, but alas there is no way of knowing how many cancers have been caused or partially caused by this since nobody has ever considered any link between eating cooked meats and carcinogens from the above process. That doesn't mean it didn't contribute to some or even all of those cases.
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Coke?
Pepsi?
Wimps :-P
Irn-Bru (http://www.irn-bru.co.uk/) is the drink :-P
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Vincent wrote:
Coke?
Pepsi?
Wimps :-P
Indeed.
Commercial cattle.
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:lol:
By the way - Irn-Bru (http://www.irn-bru.co.uk/) click on It's Phenomenal ;-)
Oh yeah, Flash required unfortunately.
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Dammit, Vince, that's another week I'll have that tune in my head :-P
You got me good there.
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X-ray wrote:
Dammit, Vince, that's another week I'll have that tune in my head :-P
:lol:
:-D
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I know this sounds insane, but after I started drinking diet sodas, I find that I actually prefer them to normal sodas. Trying to drink a regular mountain dew for example tastes like drinking carbonated lemon-flavored syrup.
Kinda like the difference between whole milk and 2%. I prefer 2% for drinking and cereal, but whole milk for things like Orange Julius drinks.
Wayne
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Wayne wrote:
Trying to drink a regular mountain dew for example tastes like drinking carbonated lemon-flavored syrup.
There's a good reason for that ;-)
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I'm sure in typical Karlos fashion, you'll now break down the chemical composition of Mountain Dew but you miss the point. Until I started drinking diet drinks, I never really noticed what sodas tasted like, just that they were cold, wet, and bubbly. Now that I've discovered that I like the taste of diet sodas, regular sodas are all but undrinkable.
To see what I mean, over the course of two weeks drink nothing but Diet Coke. Don't stop drinking sodas, just drink diet instead. When you pick up your next non-diet soda, all you will taste is sickeningly sweet sugar and syrup.
Not actually a good taste really.
Wayne
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Mountain Dew was always my fave, but I cannot drink it because of the caffeine - drives me up a wall. Can't do coffee either but I don't feel like I am missing any thing. I just stick to my diet Lemon-Lime sodas. Lately my wife has started baking with some special recipes that use concentrated grape juice as a sweetener. Talk about good eatin'!
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@Wayne
Wayne wrote:
I'm sure in typical Karlos fashion, you'll now break down the chemical composition of Mountain Dew
Thank God for that, I thought you were going to suggest something to do with socks :lol:
but you miss the point. Until I started drinking diet drinks, I never really noticed what sodas tasted like, just that they were cold, wet, and bubbly.
Actually I do know what you mean there. I generally prefered the diet versions of drinks purely because the normal versions used to make my teeth feel weird in addition to the overwhelming sugary taste.
Now that I've discovered that I like the taste of diet sodas, regular sodas are all but undrinkable.
To see what I mean, over the course of two weeks drink nothing but Diet Coke. Don't stop drinking sodas, just drink diet instead. When you pick up your next non-diet soda, all you will taste is sickeningly sweet sugar and syrup.
As I said, there's a good reason for that, and that reason is because this is exactly what they are.
Not actually a good taste really.
Agreed.
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Vincent wrote:
Coke?
Pepsi?
Wimps :-P
Irn-Bru (http://www.irn-bru.co.uk/) is the drink :-P
Coca Cola and PepsiCo are both very unethical brands. Both support the Bush regime in the states (PepsiCo is number 17 on BoycottBush.nets Top 25 Republican Party donors list having donated $1.9m from 1999-2003.) And both have been boycotted by various groups for various dodgy things pretty consistently for years.
So if you give a rats ass about such things - avoid Pepsi, 7-Up, Tango, Ribena (PepsiCo) and Coca Cola, Lilt, Sprite, Fanta, Dr Pepper, etc, etc (Coca Cola Co.)
A.G.Barr Plc are proper bo ethically speaking so keep drinking yer Irn Bru :-)
And as for mountain dew... the one and only time I tried that stuff it made me feel sick.
Oh, and avoid Lucozade too.
:-D
-zudo
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So if you give a rats ass about such things - avoid Pepsi, 7-Up, Tango, Ribena (PepsiCo) and Coca Cola, Lilt, Sprite, Fanta, Dr Pepper, etc, etc (Coca Cola Co.)
Actually, I don't think there's a single brand in most US grocery stores (Including RC and Double Cola) that isn't a subsidiary of the Coca-Cola or PepsiCo. That may not be the case on a regional level as I'm sure there are "local-brew sodas", but I'm not aware of any here.
Wayne
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only soda drink I occasionally drink is Red Bull
quite a lot caffeine, and it tastes like chewing gum :lol:
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only soda drink I occasionally drink is Red Bull
quite a lot caffeine, and it tastes like chewing gum
Thats nothing, mix it with vodka and it tastes like sick.
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Whatever happened to those Soda Stream machines?
I`ll never forget the day I experimented and made fizzy milk... not one my stomach will let me forget either :oops:
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come now... chemistry 101. Acids and bases do not mix. The sole exception seems to be my Orange Julius recipe which mixes OJ / Milk / Water and Vanilla (and tastes yummy)
Wayne
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Well, I was only 10 at the time..
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Wayne wrote:
come now... chemistry 101. Acids and bases do not mix. The sole exception seems to be my Orange Julius recipe which mixes OJ / Milk / Water and Vanilla (and tastes yummy)
Wayne
That sounds pretty ... different?
I'll try anything once. What's the ratios?
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@zudobug
What about Um Bongo? My favourite soft drink (which I can only buy in the small cartons in a 15pack instead of the litre jugs... thanks Tesco :-x).
Doobrey wrote:
Whatever happened to those Soda Stream machines?
I`ll never forget the day I experimented and made fizzy milk... not one my stomach will let me forget either :oops:
My mum still had our until a couple of years ago when she refound it in the attic :-)
We gave it to a mate who then instantly proceeded to make his Heinz57 variety. Everyflavour he could get his hands on in the one drink :-D
They did start selling them again a year or two ago, but I don't think they really took off again. Which is a shame.
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Vince,
What about Um Bongo?
That's Robinsons - a brand owned by Bass Plc. They make donations to the Conservative Party and support oppressive regimes abroad. They also market PepsiCo's drinks in the UK.
-zudo
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Karlos,
Orange Julius Recipe (http://www.amiga.org/forums/showthread.php?t=12253)
Wayne
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Wayne wrote:
Karlos,
Orange Julius Recipe (http://www.amiga.org/forums/showthread.php?t=12253)
Wayne
Looks good, but I fear I would gain several pounds (weight) if I deiced to drink these things...
Swap out the sugar for Splenda then you might have something :-D
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Vincent wrote:
@zudobug
What about Um Bongo? My favourite soft drink (which I can only buy in the small cartons in a 15pack instead of the litre jugs... thanks Tesco :-x).
If you mix equal measures of vodka and peach schnapps and mix with orange juice, it tastes just like Um Bongo ;-)
With the exception that Um Bongo doesn't make your legs go funny :lol:
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From OJ, milk, and 1/4 cup sugar? Haven't tried Splenda. Too expensive still.
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Wayne wrote:
Karlos,
Orange Julius Recipe (http://www.amiga.org/forums/showthread.php?t=12253)
Wayne
Cheers. I'll try that one soon :-)
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Wayne wrote:
From OJ, milk, and 1/4 cup sugar? Haven't tried Splenda. Too expensive still.
Well Sucralose is 600 times sweeter than sugar, you wouldn't need a 1/4 cup of the stuff... I would suggest maybe 4 tablets.
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@Bloodline
Ever noticed that just about every other substance ever used as a sweetener is orders of magnitude sweeter than sucrose?
It comes as a surprise to hear that sucralose is so sweet considering that it is basically sucrose (the chlorines just replace the hydroxy groups that your metabolic pathways use as anchor points).
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bloodline wrote:
Wayne wrote:
From OJ, milk, and 1/4 cup sugar? Haven't tried Splenda. Too expensive still.
Well Sucralose is 600 times sweeter than sugar, you wouldn't need a 1/4 cup of the stuff... I would suggest maybe 4 tablets.
We have splenda in the house, it's disgusting. RO water system leading to an expresso machine with fresh ground coffe beans from Kenya and I had to ruin it by trying Splenda. It has a similar aftertaste to sacharin. (not QUITE as bad, but.... bad.)
The only sugar I use in coffee nowdays is Sugar In The Raw, oh and REAL cream, none of that "coffee creamer" crap. Real cream and real sugar makes all the difference in the world. Anything else taste like Gasstation swill.
Once the coffee is taken care of, must have Ginger snaps :-)
(http://i2.peapod.com/c/Z6/Z6E0U.jpg)
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@T_Bone
If you 600 times less Sucralose than Sugar, it tastes exactly the same... to me any way... with all other sweeteners I can taste that they are not sugar.
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yeah, but how the hell do you divide 1/4 cup x 600? Seems silly.
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Doobrey wrote:
Whatever happened to those Soda Stream machines?
I`ll never forget the day I experimented and made fizzy milk... not one my stomach will let me forget either :oops:
I saw one for sale in ASDA for £34.99 on thursday night, and was sooooooo close to buying one. Purely because I always wanted one as a kid and never had one.