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Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga Marketplace => Topic started by: x56h34 on February 09, 2005, 04:36:37 PM
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This makes me wish I had a Prometheus for sale. Click here (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5162582743).
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x56h34 wrote:
This makes me wish I had a Prometheus for sale. Click here (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5162582743).
WTF?!?
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I think Ill bid on that. Bargain!
:-D
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As far as I can calculate it he wants to make 100 % profit because 120 euro is close to the price you can pay for a Prometheus and a Voodoo3 pci card together ...
An few hours ago I sold a Prometheus (new and unused, not "as new") + Voodoo5 + Fortemedia soundcard + RTL8029 networkcard for 200 euro includig shipping from Belgium to Spain ... seems like a fair price to me ...
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@x56h34
This auction looks as a fake.
Check the bids history: http://offer.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewBids&item=5162582743
Someone bids himself :lol:
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@tjaoz:
I think the bids are real, as the top bidder has 300+ feedback.
Speaking of fake (http://www.buy.elbox.com/cgibin/shop?info=330SP1G) though... :-P
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But this is to be expected, after all...Prometheus is the very best PCI expansion for classic Amigas, and nothing else comes close. Everyone knows this, even owners of "inferior" solutions will tell you. ;-) :-P
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@-D-:
And don't get me started on the poor USB solution offered by the usual "inferior" competition, in PCI form. :-) WTF? It's not even A2000 compatible. :-P
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Excellent examples of why the Amiga is considered a mostly dead platform. ;-) A market this small really can't handle this kind of competition. You know? Closed hardware only works well on a closed platform with well-defined standards (i.e. not the Amiga). :-P EDIT: OK, the Amiga does have well-defined standards, but who builds upon them?
So, hardware-wise, Prometheus good, [insert other PCI busboard here] bad. Software-wise, they all use closed libraries with varying levels of support for public APIs. Am I the only one that thinks Amiga hardware and software should be free of NDAs and other red tape? Take away the Video Toaster, and the Amiga's not much more than a hacker/hobbyist toy. It's unfortunate, but it's true.
Now, back to Prometheus. Good hardware. Open SDK. Can't blame Matay for the lack of a standardized PCI API during product development.
Same goes for clockport hardware. But it would have made sense for vendors to agree on a resource library specification before writing drivers.
And more rambling. Anyone know the current state of OpenPCI? The primary maintainer is missing in action, and no one wants to claim ownership.
Trev
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And who is gonna continue producing the Prometheus and selling it now Redrumloa won´t sell them anymore ??? Is this history finished ???
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Hmmm watch this space ;-)
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But this is to be expected, after all...Prometheus is the very best PCI expansion for classic Amigas, and nothing else comes close. Everyone knows this, even owners of "inferior" solutions will tell you. ;-) :-P
Yes! Yes! :lol:
Above all Prometheus is very economical because you do not need to spend money on the PCI cards as Prometheus has not working drivers for anything except 10Mbps ethernet and graphics.
Buggy prometheus hardware (lack of working busmastering) is also very good feature because developers do not need to waste their precious time on prometheus' drivers development.
As Prometheus producer does not support Prometheus any longer, you do not need to waste your time and money on phone calls with stupid questions like: why there are not sound drivers? why there are not USB drivers? why there is not TV tuners card support? where is fastethernet support?... etc.
Prometheus official mailing list http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Amiga-Prometheus/ is also dead, so no need to waste the place in your mailbox.
Prometheus is very easy to install... when you do not want to use any PCI card in it.
It's perfect product... :roflmao:
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Prometheus is very easy to install... when you do not want to use any PCI card in it.
Physically installing the Mediator ZIV, on the other hand, is a dream. I don't think so. And yes, I do have one. So anything I have to say about Elbox comes from my own personal experience. (Can you say f'ed up currency conversions? "By the way, those prices we list in USD? They're just estimates. The real price is 9,999,999.99 EUR. It's not our fault we don't subscribe to a cheaper than s--t currency conversion service.") :-P
Unfortunately, actually finding a reasonably priced ethernet card supported by any PCI busboard is a bit of challenge. Red has done an *excellent* job of making sure his customers can actually use their Prometheus--even in systems it wasn't designed to be used in.
Trev
-- Hoping my recently purchased D-Link DFE-530TX+ is chipset compatible with Elbox's fast ethernet driver.
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sniff sniff sniff, what's that? Oh the Elbox Rat is back.
Prometheus owners are getting Catweasel MK4 drivers in a couple of days, something Mediator doesn't have. Oh yeah, Prometheus drivers don't randomly thrash people's hard drives, what a fricken concept! :-o
Oh BTW Rat, I'm very curious to see your renewed panic in a month or so. You're really going to implode!
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@tjaoz
Wow, way to win over new customers. I've never crossed
list with you before, but you've inspired me to join the
Prometheus general and driver developer list and start
working on ATI and Intel fastethernet drivers. Thanks.
@red
I can't beleive that ebay auction, The Greek marketplace
must be on fire for Voodoo3 cards. :-P
Plaz
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tjaoz wrote:
Yes! Yes! :lol:
Why don't you crawl back in to your hole and write some more hard-drive trashing drivers, you hack.