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Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga Marketplace => Topic started by: redrumloa on February 07, 2005, 03:42:18 PM
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I will be making an order an order of C-one bards(formerly known as CommodoreOne) in the coming days. These are betaboards, because all cores are not complete. The price is $350 + shipping. I will only be ordering enough boards in this batch to cover genuinely interested parties. Meaning, this will be by preorder only. Shipping from Germany to Florida is typically 10-14 days, so expect ~3 weeks from date of preorder until it reaches your hands. PM me if you are interested.
For more information on the C-One please see:
www.commodoreone.com (http://www.commodoreone.com)
As a side note Individual Computers is making an enourmous LOSS on this prodject so far, to keep the price in this range.
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As a side note Individual Computers is making an enourmous LOSS on this prodject so far, to keep the price in this range.
Yeah, that's the problem with small-scale production... :-(
I wish I had money enought to buy one... :\
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I'd buy one but the missus has firmly pointed out that the next and last computer to come into this house will be her Mini Mac, anything else will result in her handing my gonads back to me in a paper bag, after she's gone over them with a meat hammer...
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the_leander wrote:
I'd buy one but the missus has firmly pointed out that the next and last computer to come into this house will be her Mini Mac, anything else will result in her handing my gonads back to me in a paper bag, after she's gone over them with a meat hammer...
So when you getting your C-One then?
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@the_leander
Yieargh - no need!
/scary mental image of a scary mental missus :-)
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Heh.... but you could give it to her and pretend its a mini mac ... or maybe not.
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Sorry to be ignorant ..
But what is the 'C-ONE' ??
(It sounds like a sooped-up C64)
(I might be interested)
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Check the link. Its a "new" C64 style configurable computer system.
http://ami.ga.com or something like that...
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melott wrote:
But what is the 'C-ONE' ??
(It sounds like a sooped-up C64)
The C-One started it's life out as the CommodoreOne, but was renamed the C-One for obvious reasons. It is the product of a cooperation between Jeri Elsworth and Individual Computers. Originally it was started as a modern C64 replacement, but has become much more. It is a reconfigurable computer with multiple cores, C64 being just one possible core. It's not just a C64 clone though, it gives many much newer specs.
There is much more, see website above. here is a taste:
What it is:
The C-One computer is a 2003 enhanced adaptation of the Commodore 64 -the most sold of any computer model (Guiness book of World Records) While retaining almost all of the original's capabilities the C-One adds modern features, interfacing and capabilities and is a sorely needed fill for a gap in the hobbyist computer market.
(user will need to supply an ATX style case, ATX power supply, drive(s), PS/2 keyboard, mouse, memory and SVGA capable monitor.)
Features/Product Description
Physical Appearance
· The CommodoreOne is a motherboard ready to mount into an ATX style computer case. Ports will match the holes of the case, except for the audio connectors, which do not fit without mechanical modification of the case (holes have to be drilled).
Power
· Connectors on the CommodoreOne are ATX style. The C-one board is designed for an ATX power supply and accommodations have been made to keep the machine as 'laptop/portable capable' as possible, such as startup of the machine from two voltages only (3.3V and 5V), and diskless operation.
· note: ATX 'power down' can be controlled by software.
CPU/Speed
· The main processor of the C1 is a 65c816 processor running at approximately 20 MHz. The 65c816 is a 6502 compatible processor with a 24 bit address range and extra instructions that access the full memory range are added to the 6502 core. The C-One has a processor slot for any other 8-bit CPU such as a real 6502, Z80, 6809 or even the Z8S180. Pinouts and footprints are also documentented to the public.
· Software throttle for classic 64 speeds.
· The system bus runs at up to 105Mhz, the 50/60 hz CIA clock of the system is provided by internal circuitry.
SuperVIC Video Capabilities
· VGA monitor output
· VIC-II compatible in all video modes 60hz/50hz emulation is software selectable.
· Classic Emulation & SuperVIC Mode is software selectable
· Extended video modes as well as combination modes with classic VIC-II modes are possible.
· Memory addresses of features (character matrix, screen memory, color RAM, etc.) are each 24 bit addressable (except for the color palette which resides inside the chip's memory)
· up to 128MB multimedia memory for graphics, music and copper data
· Max Resolution 1280x1024 Sync settings from 60hz-? (depends of resolution)
· Maximum of 256 colors out of a palette of 65,535 in regular and linear modes
· a special 'Chunky' video mode with access to entire palette (limitations apply)
· Graphics modes include 64 style cell video and linear video
· Hardware based line drawing/fill & pattern fills/overlay, scaling?
· Overscan
· Windowing mode (view a portion of a 1280x1024 display on a 320x200 window & scroll)
· Full byte Color RAM can be moved now!
· Blitter functions (block image transfer) Logical operation AND, OR, XOR
· On-Board Copper Processor*
· 8 sprites (Can have up to 256x256 resolution)
· Can use classic linear or 64 video style graphics (pick up screen image?)
· Mouse controlled 'mouse sprite'
· Based on a 320 dot clock (same pixel size/position on all video modes)
· Video expansion connector for digital and analog video expansions
MonsterSID Audio
· Classic SID Emulation (including address mirroring)
· Monster SID Mode
· 16 stereo SID voices (1-8 left, 9-16 right)
· Sync and Ring Modulation and filtering on all voices
· Extra voices mapped in order after the first three
· DMA audio
· 8 Stereo voices (4 left, 4 right)
· up to 128MB multimedia memory used for sound or instruments, as well as access to main CPU memory for playing DMA clips.
· Variable sample playback rate.
· Audio resolution of 16 bits (CD quality oversampling DAC)
· DMA segment playback can be either continuous (loop) or one-shot (note/segment)
· two sockets for classic SID chips, Monster SID audio can be routed through their analog filters (prpared for more analog audio routing)
Memory
· Computer Memory is a standard SD-Ram module of up to 1GB size, multimedia memory of up to 128MB is a standard SIMM module. Minimum is 4MB of multimedia memory and 16M main memory.
· complete multimedia memory can be used for Monster SID (DMA Audio or Instrument clips.)
· The System has a boot ROM of 512K which contains the early startup procedure divided into 128k and 384k user space for one main core and OS
· Main OS storage can also be Compact Flash media or harddrives to hold the C-One operating system(s) as well as cores and rom images. There is no limit to card capacity (current Flash Cards contain up to 1GB memory). FAT filesystem is supported, so simple data transfer from PCs is given.
Internal I/O
· 3.5" floppy drive connector with 1581 emulation (using PC drive) with 64k RAM
· Capable** of supporting MFM 720/1.4/2.8 capacity drives via software
(WD1772 compatible)
· IDE Interface with DMA support**
· Compact Flash Media Slot (see 'Memory' above)
· TTL level digital video interface (for example to drive an LCD screen)
Internal Expansion
· C64 compatible Cartridge Slot
· Up to two PCI connectors (factory-stuffed only one)
· Capability to configure C1 system chip settings externally
· two Amiga 1200 compatible clock-ports for expansion
· Geek Port (Whatever spare lines are left)
External Interfacing
· PS/2 Keyboard port with either Commodore-64 matrix emulation (configurable) or raw data access
· Joystick lines can also be emulated via keyboard
· PS/2 Mouse with 1351 emulation and bi-directional communication support.
· IEC Serial Connector supporting Commodore VIC/64/264/128 drives and printers.
· 2 Joystick Ports (Paddles supported with classic SID chips installed)
· PC-style DB25 Parallel port (can act as C64 userport with adapter)
A view at a possible rear panel of a C-One computer
* About the Copper
The Copper processor is designed to make adjustments to the video chip 'on the fly' as the video chip draws the screen the copper can be set to activate at specific pixel locations - upon activation it can modify the video registers with new values. This is how split screen, layered screen and/or mixed video effects are so easy on the Amiga. The Copper command list has three commands 'Wait for Raster Value', 'Skip Function if Event,' and 'Store Value to Register'.
** Floppy/IDE Interface
In the initial release these interfaces do not have any support software (with the exception of 1581 emulation), it is hoped that with the ease of interfacing to the floppy and IDE drives a more 'software oriented individual' will develop the necessary support software for these devices.
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I will be making an order an order of C-one bards(formerly known as CommodoreOne) in the coming days. These are betaboards, because all cores are not complete. The price is $350 + shipping.
Why, oh why, do you have to continue to lead me into temptation with offers like these? My wife probably won't be the happiest to see another computer appear in the back room, either. :-P
Anyhow, when would you be placing the order, and how much do you need up-front?
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Ilwrath wrote:
Why, oh why, do you have to continue to lead me into temptation with offers like these? My wife probably won't be the happiest to see another computer appear in the back room, either. :-P
Because I'm a slick salesman;-)
Anyhow, when would you be placing the order, and how much do you need up-front?
I will be placing the order probably within the next 48 hours. I would prefer to have the full amount up front, but can take $100 deposit instead from established Anachronism Industries/Auctions by redrumloa customers such as yourself. If you want to go this route pay $100 now, and the balance when they are in my hands ready to ship. This isn't a long term preorder. The boards are ready and will only take ~10-14 days to get from germany to Florida, maybe less.
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I put what I think is an informative article on the C-One together recently, for those who are interested.
http://www.bytecellar.com/archives/000036.php
Pic links inside:
http://homepage.mac.com/blakespot/PhotoAlbum24.html
FYI.
I paid 269 Euro [$343 USD at today's rate] + 22 Euro shipping (converted to USD via Yahoo Business at the time).
blakespot
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I put what I think is an informative article on the C-One together recently, for those who are interested.
Nice!
I paid 269 Euro [$343 USD at today's rate] + 22 Euro shipping (converted to USD via Yahoo Business at the time).
That's ~$371USD shipped, good to see I am competetative. It's hard being based in the US, and stay competative with German dealers' prices. My price @ $350 + (estimated) $13 US shipping = $363 total.
Considering all the engineering put into this board and the small market that has interest in such a product, it really is a good price.
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I am placing the order later tonight(my time approximately 10 hours from this posting). Get your request in if interested.
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I ordered a C-One board two weeks ago...it shipped from Germany on Monday of last week and arrived here in Sacramento on Thursday. Amazing little computer.
I attached a Commodore 1541 drive to it and started throwing the old game disks at the computer. Amazing when they all booted! For sound you add in a real SID chip (luckily you can get a 64 for parts very cheaply on EBay) on the C-One motherboard.
Toss on a couple of old joysticks and it's the most awesome 64 you've ever seen....amazing since its still very much beta.
You're gonna have a great time!!
Bob :-D
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If it was a mini-ITX, this (http://www.mini-itx.com/projects/c64/) would be the ideal case! 8-)
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