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Amiga computer related discussion => General chat about Amiga topics => Topic started by: transami on January 27, 2005, 03:36:12 PM
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I'm looking for an Amiga enthusiast with experience in writing business proposals. I have begun an exciting project, and a fairly big-name company wants a submitted proposal. I've started in on a formal business plan, but have little experience in such things. If anyone would like to get-in on the ground floor of what could become a huge boon for Amiga, should the proposal be ok'd, please contact me.
Thanks,
transfire at gmail
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Any clues?
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Well, if you would kindly send $20000 to his Nigerian bank account, then he can easily cover his expenses and move the $5 million temporarily frozen by the bank and of course then be fully capable of providing you with your triple earnings on the investment, plus making the Amiga project come true.
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x56h34 wrote:
Well, if you would kindly send $20000 to his Nigerian bank account, then he can easily cover his expenses and move the $5 million temporarily frozen by the bank and of course then be fully capable of providing you with your triple earnings on the investment, plus making the Amiga project come true.
Sounds like a good deal!! Count me in!
-Edited Out comparisons with various Amiga related companies-
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Ha Ha. No it is not a scam. You can look around and see that I've posted here before.
T.
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I'm trying to divulge as little as possible for the sake of how that might effect the acceptance of the proposal. But I suppose I can admit the basic idea: A _widely_ marketable amiga-based platform.
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transami wrote:
I'm trying to divulge as little as possible for the sake of how that might effect the acceptance of the proposal. But I suppose I can admit the basic idea: A _widely_ marketable amiga-based platform.
Sell it to me... What is the benefit of being Amiga Based?
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A _widely_ marketable amiga-based platform.
Cool..
Erm..
So..
What is it ? :-?
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Serieusly, I think you should be a little more forthcomming (sp?).. A "widely" marketable Amiga based platform can be anything. AmigaONE ? CD32 ? CDTV ? Aren't those Amiga based platforms ? Weren't/aren't those marketable ? (Wheter they were / are isn't relevant).
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Sell it to me... What is the benefit of being Amiga Based?
The benefits of a) AmigaOS and b) Customizied hardware.
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Is it...
An Amiga-in-a-joystick for £29.99 ??! :-D
- Ali
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My guess is point-of-sale AV cabinets...
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Serieusly, I think you should be a little more forthcomming (sp?).. A "widely" marketable Amiga bases platform can be anything. AmigaONE ? CD32 ? CDTV ? Aren't those Amiga bases platforms ? Weren't/aren't those marketable ? (Wheter they were / are isn't relevant).
I would like to, but obviously it is a simple matter of business that I can not. Someone actually interested, willing to non-disclose and able, of course, to help me put together a professional business proposal will be privy to the details.
Think about it. If it were you pursuing such a busniess venture, would you just jump on this forum and spill all your beans? Not to mention the fact that the world is full of naysayers; who likes hearing all that? Words are cheap. I am looking for action. I hope you understand.
Thanks,
T.
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A "widely" marketable Amiga based platform can be anything.
I suppose I can add... PRECISELY!
T.
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I hope you understand.
Sure, I understand.
Unfortunatly, without knowing some more details about the idea, I can't decide if I could help.
Not to worry, I'm pretty sure I'm not qualified anyway :-)
Good luck.
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The benefits of a) AmigaOS and b) Customizied hardware.
And whats your project about? Building custom 68k notebooks?
:roflmao:
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And whats your project about? Building custom 68k notebooks?
See what I mean!
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I've written a few proposals in my time, including the UGN and Amiga Developer Network (which was subsequently --ahem...-- stolen) so I understand the need for discretion, but not sure how much help my input could be. That being said, I'm more than willing to help if possible.
Wayne
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That being said, I'm more than willing to help if possible.
Hehe... Who knows, good ol' Wayne might still become the saviour of Amiga :-D
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Not trying to "save" anything any more. That only causes more trouble and everything's pretty much beyond saving at the moment. Alas, all I want to do is to be constructive rather than destructive. I have been where transami has been before. Having a great idea and no way to move forward.
Wayne
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@transami
You are definitely right............this site and the world is full of naysayers for sure............................................for some reason when You say "CUSTOM CHIPS" they immediately say: "Out of Date"........when infact no one is talking about classic custom chips like ECS or AGA.
A Playstation 3 will have custom chips............and its (according to some articles) gonna crush what PC's have to offer.
Anyway not to get to detailed.............I agree with not spilling the Beans and getting laughed at.
Check your PMail transami :-)
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Not trying to "save" anything any more.
I know, that's why I made the joke.
Anyway, I think you could help him better then I could.
Having a great idea and no way to move forward.
Part of live.. Some people can overcome that roadblock, some never do.. :-(
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this site and the world is full of naysayers for sure
This site ? It's a hell of a lot more positive then say Moobunny or ann..
for some reason when You say "CUSTOM CHIPS" they immediately say: "Out of Date"
The real Amiga curse.. Users seeing the Amiga as the only computer with custom chip sets..
I agree with not spilling the Beans and getting laughed at.
Not sure what's worse. Not spilling and getting laughed at, and spilling and getting laughed at.
But yes, if Transami has a good idea, it's better not to spill..
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Well, I'm an ethusiast and I can write. (Even translate to spanish if needed) I've done various docs, tech manuals, training materials an assisted with a couple of "start-up" company proposals. PM me if you think I could help. BTW, I can keep a secret well too :sealed:
Plaz
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The benefits of a) AmigaOS and b) Customizied hardware.
a) Ah yes, no software and an expensive licence (well, more expensive than free)
b) ok, expensive and incapable of doing anything useful.
Seriously, I don't want to know your idea... I just want to know what the Amiga has to do with it.
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a) Ah yes, no software and an expensive licence (well, more expensive than free)
b) ok, expensive and incapable of doing anything useful.
Seriously, I don't want to know your idea... I just want to know what the Amiga has to do with it.
Understandable. What does Amiga have to do with it? She is what I want to have to do with it!
Sure, why not do Linux. Why not stick with Windows. Why not?
Because Amiga is my Spirit. She is what I love, and have loved all these years. And it is to her that I will remain true.
She needs us now more than ever. Time is a strain upon her. Someone must rise up to bring the fold back together. So I follow the calling. I will find her. I will bring her back.
Too poetic for you? Try this: Because Amiga is worth it! Don't you beleive that too?
T.
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transami wrote:
a) Ah yes, no software and an expensive licence (well, more expensive than free)
b) ok, expensive and incapable of doing anything useful.
Seriously, I don't want to know your idea... I just want to know what the Amiga has to do with it.
Understandable. What does Amiga have to do with it? She is what I want to have to do with it!
Sure, why not do Linux. Why not stick with Windows. Why not?
Because Amiga is my Spirit. She is what I love, and have loved all these years. And it is to her that I will remain true.
She needs us now more than ever. Time is a strain upon her. Someone must rise up to bring the fold back together. So I follow the calling. I will find her. I will bring her back.
Too poetic for you? Try this: Because Amiga is worth it! Don't you beleive that too?
T.
Poetic, yes. Laudable, yes. But you've said nothing that makes any business sense! :-(
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Poetic, yes. Laudable, yes. But you've said nothing that makes any business sense!
Okay. That's a fair point. AmigaOS doesn't have the strong application base. That is a real difficulty --probably the most difficult. Of course, one of the goals is compatability with classic software, but even that is only a partial solution. We certainly will be pushing hard to sign on developers geared torward our initial market. But beyond that we may well need to offer a Linux-comaptability layer (perhaps coLinux) or Wine, although I am hopeful we will not need to do so --it does remain to be seen.
There are a lot of good classic apps out there, if we can get some of the major important modern apps ported like firefox and openoffice, then it should suffice for starters --at least for that area of the market.
Does that anwser your question a bit more (without spilling actual beans)?
T.
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Tell me what Country you are in and I may be able to help.
I am a qualified Chartered Accountant with experience of producing financial projections and assisting in the writing of Business Proposals, admittedly on a small scale though.
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transami wrote:
Poetic, yes. Laudable, yes. But you've said nothing that makes any business sense!
Okay. That's a fair point. AmigaOS doesn't have the strong application base. That is a real difficulty --probably the most difficult. Of course, one of the goals is compatability with classic software, but even that is only a partial solution. We certainly will be pushing hard to sign on developers geared torward our initial market. But beyond that we may well need to offer a Linux-comaptability layer (perhaps coLinux) or Wine, although I am hopeful we will not need to do so --it does remain to be seen.
There are a lot of good classic apps out there, if we can get some of the major important modern apps ported like firefox and openoffice, then it should suffice for starters --at least for that area of the market.
Does that anwser your question a bit more (without spilling actual beans)?
T.
Try and put yourself in the shoes of a potential investor... All he hears is; "Blah blah, linux, blah, Firefox, openoffice, blah blah..."
He's going say, great get a cheap x86 Mobo (Mini-ITX for £50) and stick Linux on it. When you start saying... our idea actually uses a £400 and can't actually run Firefox or Openoffice due to limitations in the AmigaOS API (it can't support the fork() function for example, so you will need a major rewrite of these two apps alone), and thus a "linux layer" (which needs to be developed) won't be able to support all Linux apps etc... Don't forget there is no memory protection so stability is an issue... What is he going to say to you?
I don't want to rain on your parade but make sure you have all the facts, and be realistic.
P.S. CoLinux and Wine can't run in AmigaOS, the architectural differences are too great and Wine only works on x86 machine.
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USA
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bloodline,
He he. Don't worry. I have every point you've made under consideration.
I realize there is difficulty in selling Amiga vs. XYZ. And some weak points in the OS do need to be addressed. But if I'm not mistaken there are already a number of people working on them. You for instance.
For if it is all so unrealistic, then why do you support AROS?
T.
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transami wrote:
bloodline,
He he. Don't worry. I have every point you've made under consideration.
I realize there is difficulty in selling Amiga vs. XYZ. And some weak points in the OS do need to be addressed. But I'm not mistaken there are already a number of people working on them.
Which is why I want to you be well aware of the limitations of the platform. You can only prevail, if you keep this realistic.
You for instance.
For if it is all so unrealistic, then why do you support AROS?
T.
Hehehe, I wondered when that would be brought up. AROS is my hobby, I have watched it grow for 7 years. It makes me happy to play with it. I know it's probably never going to be a comercial success, but that doesn't matter as it's open source and free. Maybe someone will modify it to allow the inclusion of more modern OS design features (The primary one being Memory protection), but that will render it incompatible with exisiting software... It doesn't matter, because anyone can use it and anyone can modify it to suit a particular need or market (And it runs on standard, cheap hardware). Oh, the joy of OpenSource :-)
I do love AROS, but then I love my Cat, and I wouldn't try and run him for president (regardless of you policial views Bush would probably beat him).
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For those of you who showed interest in this opportunity, please check you private messages.
Or contact me if you did not get a message but wanted to ;-)
Thanks,
T.
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>> I'm trying to divulge as little as possible for the sake of how that might effect the acceptance of the proposal. But I suppose I can admit the basic idea: A _widely_ marketable amiga-based platform.<<
Send it to us and we will forward it.
admin@troikang.com
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by seer on 2005/1/27 15:30:17
This site ? It's a hell of a lot more positive then say Moobunny or ann..
I take it you were not amused by this (http://flyingmice.com/cgi-bin/squidcgi/mbmessage.pl/amiga/121107.shtml) thread?
Dammy