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Title: No news is good news????
Post by: Thellenbow on February 25, 2003, 02:57:31 PM
Its been a while since we heard anything from AI about AmigaOne or OS 4.0. The most recent thing on their web site is a story by Microsoft PressPass about the PocketPC package they came out with back in April last year! Are they holding their cards close to their chest? Are they planning some grand annoucement in March? Are they too busy to talk? In other words: WHERE THE H*LL ARE THEY?

Personally, I would appreciate  some words of encouragement rather than silence. What do you think?  :-(
Title: Re: No news is good news????
Post by: sgm on February 25, 2003, 03:02:40 PM
Personally, this smells like bad news. BUT: AInc are well known to be rather bad PR-wise, so after all it may just be "business as usual"...
Title: Re: No news is good news????
Post by: odin on February 25, 2003, 03:06:00 PM
Pah, who cares about A Inc anymore, it's Hyperion doing the real work.
Title: Re: No news is good news????
Post by: Marky_D_Sahd on February 25, 2003, 03:16:15 PM
Take a look at their Dec. 2001 Executive Update:  "First in the soon-to-be monthly" :roflmao:  :roflmao:  :roflmao:  :roflmao:  :roflmao:  :roflmao:  :roflmao:  :roflmao:  :roflmao:  :roflmao:  :roflmao:  :roflmao:  :roflmao:  :roflmao:  :roflmao:  :roflmao:  :roflmao:  :roflmao:  :roflmao:  :roflmao:  :roflmao:

PS  Hey, everybody!  Hershey's chocolate is offering some cool looking tee-shirts, and they're FREE, and you can get one now, and you can see what they look like before you  order!  You might need something to wear while waiting for your AInc tee shirt to come in. :roflmao:  :roflmao:  :roflmao:  :roflmao:  :roflmao:
Title: Re: No news is good news????
Post by: mikeymike on February 25, 2003, 03:24:44 PM
Oh no, we haven't been given a progress report on OS4 in the last 5 minutes, the world is ending.

Title: Re: No news is good news????
Post by: mikeymike on February 25, 2003, 04:34:57 PM
"Hell" isn't a swearword.

Neither is "God" just in case you went to an American state school...
Title: Re: No news is good news????
Post by: Thellenbow on February 25, 2003, 04:35:46 PM
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mikeymike wrote:
Oh no, we haven't been given a progress report on OS4 in the last 5 minutes, the world is ending.



How did you learn to live with the Bomb (AI) and Stop Worrying? :-P
Title: Re: No news is good news????
Post by: mikeymike on February 25, 2003, 04:38:03 PM
I keep my own mine shaft.
Title: Re: No news is good news????
Post by: Step on February 25, 2003, 05:05:26 PM
Well, for us club members the last info arrived not so long ago, so i am rather pleased for now :-)

I am surprised that the info sent out has yet to show up on the web, has everybody kept quiet ??

Title: Re: No news is good news????
Post by: Thellenbow on February 25, 2003, 05:07:53 PM
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Step wrote:
Well, for us club members the last info arrived not so long ago, so i am rather pleased for now :-)

I am surprised that the info sent out has yet to show up on the web, has everybody kept quiet ??



Mumbles is the word. If you have any info I would like to hear it. But so far the message is not clear.
Title: Re: No news is good news????
Post by: Step on February 25, 2003, 05:11:12 PM
 :-D hehe, well we are supposed to keep it a secret me thinks, but usually someone opens the floodgates, better be .inc this time.

Title: Re: No news is good news????
Post by: Thellenbow on February 25, 2003, 05:24:36 PM
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Step wrote:
 :-D hehe, well we are supposed to keep it a secret me thinks, but usually someone opens the floodgates, better be .inc this time.



OK, I'll bite, just throw me a bone. WHEN will we KNOW something? Give us a time estimate or something. I mean, is this suppose to be a surprise party or is this a Members Only thing? :-?
Title: Re: No news is good news????
Post by: on February 25, 2003, 05:28:30 PM
{edited: Please note that I state openly that I have absolutely no insider knowledge here.  Amiga Inc is now actively refusing my (and other Amiga.org administrator) attempts to contact them, so I have no idea what the hell is up with them any more.  So far, 11 e-mails sent directly to Amiga Inc staff trying to "make peace" and to solicit simple "what's up" updates have gone ignored, though I received delivery and read receipts.  That does not denote that they are dead, gone, or otherwise similar to buttheads.  I just say this because it's what I personally feel.}

No news is *never* good news.
No news is indicitive of problems.
No news is indicitive of no progress.
No news is indicitive of trying to hide something.  
No news is a sign of no money.  
No news is a sign of judicial "gag orders".

No news is a sign that they have nothing good to say.  

If you have something good, you say it.  Anything less is simply incredibly crappy PR, but then again, that's right on par with Amiga Inc's publicly viewable history.
Title: Re: No news is good news????
Post by: on February 25, 2003, 06:12:49 PM
Be Inc?
Arent they dead...... like Commodore?

 :-D   :-D   :-D    :-D   :-D   :-D   :-D   ;-)
Title: Re: No news is good news????
Post by: MikeB on February 25, 2003, 06:20:53 PM
At this point of time, the Amiga teams have been very busy on development and with other work. However, very soon all people will be brought up to date with regard to some latest happenings. Don't you worry.  :-)
Title: Re: No news is good news????
Post by: MarkTime on February 25, 2003, 06:46:14 PM
@MikeB

good news, I'm not worried.

Don't care anymore.
Title: Re: No news is good news????
Post by: z5 on February 25, 2003, 06:48:08 PM
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At this point of time, the Amiga teams have been very busy on development and with other work. However, very soon all people will be brought up to date with regard to some latest happenings. Don't you worry


Very soon we will hear what will come very soon, any day now. Come on MikeB, i'm starting to believe that you actually believe in Amiga Inc and their AmigaDe which is coming soon for a very exciting future. So what will the great news be this time? Don't tell me: Amiga Inc will be able to print the t-shirts. Or maybe they will announce a new line of products: cups, jackets, lighters,...

AmigaInc is a bunch of loosers. If you can't see that, you are blind.

ps. as  usual, i don't see any connection between OS4 and AmigaInc (well, there is none anyway) so these are only opinions of the great Amiga Inc

Title: Re: No news is good news????
Post by: MarkTime on February 25, 2003, 06:50:01 PM
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"Hell" isn't a swearword.


A word that is used in a swear, is a swear word.

I swear, doesn't anyone speak english.

Btw, using the word God improperly is highly offensive to people.  I think being non-offensive is ultimately the goal, not simply avoiding words like f*ck, sh*t, etc....

after all, you could curse me in Russian and I might find it very offensive, whereas most would only find in unintelligible.



Title: Re: No news is good news????
Post by: z5 on February 25, 2003, 06:54:26 PM
Oh and by the way, i find a completely and utterly laughable that people actually have to pay $50 to hear news about the great (coming very soon now) AmigaInc.

Well, luckily i didn't pay for that stupid coupon (which was another brilliant PR move by the exciting McEwen) and frankly, they can stuff their news. I mean, if the news is that important, they wouldn't keep it inside, would they? So there just is no news.

Can you imagine it:
IBM has made a breakthrough and are about to release a revolutionary product. BUT, you have to pay $50 to hear what it is all about. Hell, we don't want the whole world to know that we have something for sale.

Brilliant PR, once again!
Title: Re: No news is good news????
Post by: MikeB on February 25, 2003, 06:58:11 PM
@ z5

What makes you think, that I care for your opinions? I was responding to the thread starter who has his worries and so I just wanted to let him know that there will be an update soon.
Title: Re: No news is good news????
Post by: Wilse on February 25, 2003, 06:59:34 PM
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MarkTime wrote:
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"Hell" isn't a swearword.


A word that is used in a swear, is a swear word.

I swear, doesn't anyone speak english.

Btw, using the word God improperly is highly offensive to people.  I think being non-offensive is ultimately the goal, not simply avoiding words like f*ck, sh*t, etc....

after all, you could curse me in Russian and I might find it very offensive, whereas most would only find in unintelligible.





This is an area of language that interests me. As someone who 'swears' probably more than I should, I'm often reprimanded for it - sometimes rightly so. Hey, we all need to be told we're out of line sometimes. :-)
One thing I've often wondered is, who was the first person to decide that certain words are offensive and thus prohibited, while others are fine? Furthermore, if these offensive words had never been so badged, would anyone actually be offended by them?

I've also noticed a tendency, in the UK at least, towards more liberal use of words that were once taboo. Quite often nowadays we can read the 'F' word in a newspaper. This would have been unthinkable when I was a kid. Television is going the same way. I haven't decided yet, whether I think this is a good thing or a bad thing. :lol:
Title: Re: No news is good news????
Post by: z5 on February 25, 2003, 07:04:22 PM
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What makes you think, that I care for your opinions? I was responding to the thread starter who has his worries and so I just wanted to let him know that there will be an update soon


Well, i am really glad you don't actually  :-P

Keep rocking with AmigaInc!!! :-D
Title: Re: No news is good news????
Post by: KrasH on February 25, 2003, 07:47:43 PM
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MarkTime wrote:
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"Hell" isn't a swearword.


A word that is used in a swear, is a swear word.

I swear, doesn't anyone speak english.

Btw, using the word God improperly is highly offensive to people.  I think being non-offensive is ultimately the goal, not simply avoiding words like f*ck, sh*t, etc....

after all, you could curse me in Russian and I might find it very offensive, whereas most would only find in unintelligible.





Here in Austrlia you can now swear on free to air TV. You say S**t pretty much any time you want (even on radio), and you can say F**k as long as it's after 9:30pm and only 5 times per hour, although the Southpark movie was shown here with no bleeping after the 5th f***k. But as anything, there is a time and place for most things.  
Title: Re: No news is good news????
Post by: on February 25, 2003, 07:59:09 PM
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mikeymike wrote:
"Hell" isn't a swearword.

Neither is "God" just in case you went to an American state school...


If you don't swear to God, who do you swear to?
Title: Re: No news is good news????
Post by: jumpship on February 25, 2003, 08:00:38 PM
@z5

You know it has been a while since anything was said (19th Jan) by the Total Amiga guys about when they will be publishing thier next issue... Should I have not given them my subcription money?

PS If any of the TA guys read this I am not having a go at you! Just giving an example of paying for information.
Title: Re: No news is good news????
Post by: MAD on February 25, 2003, 08:01:41 PM
Hoya!

@Wilse

Well, most of the time it is a matter of history.
Swearing is seen as an offense in any sacred book. As a consequence, the one who swears is seen as a raw, rude person who has little education and class.

One remarkable point is the fact that some peoples, especially in small tribes, have "taboo words" not to be used by either men BUT by women, OR women but by men.

And many swear words have historical roots...

If you want more on the topic, buy this very interesting book by one of the master of languages today:

Peter TRUDGILL
Sociolinguistics.

Be funky

M A D
Title: Re: No news is good news????
Post by: Thellenbow on February 25, 2003, 08:46:06 PM
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z5 wrote:

Can you imagine it:
IBM has made a breakthrough and are about to release a revolutionary product. BUT, you have to pay $50 to hear what it is all about. Hell, we don't want the whole world to know that we have something for sale.

Brilliant PR, once again!


I think Z5 has a point here. If you really want people (that means everyone in the developed world) to know about a new product, you wouldn't give it out to only a select few, unless there was some great fortune to knowing this. I mean, I could see if we were talking about insider trading, but A Inc. doesn't have any public stock. Why the secret? Is this some kind of award for showing how loyal you are to them? Club Amiga is already very small, do they want to make it smaller? Either they are geniuses or dumb as bricks. :-o
Title: Re: No news is good news????
Post by: z5 on February 25, 2003, 08:46:26 PM
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You know it has been a while since anything was said (19th Jan) by the Total Amiga guys about when they will be publishing thier next issue... Should I have not given them my subcription money?


Strange comparison... Actually, i just subscribed to Total Amiga magazine myself  :-P
Why? Because they have done 13 issues already on time. Something that can not be said about AmigaInc because they have released NOTHING so far
Title: Re: No news is good news????
Post by: takemehomegrandma on February 25, 2003, 08:53:00 PM
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WHERE THE H*LL ARE THEY?


At the nearest mall with a hat on the ground, playing the banjo for some money?  :-D
Title: Re: No news is good news????
Post by: takemehomegrandma on February 25, 2003, 08:54:18 PM
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MarkTime wrote:
@MikeB

good news, I'm not worried.

Don't care anymore.


Been there, done that  ;-)
Title: Re: No news is good news????
Post by: takemehomegrandma on February 25, 2003, 09:00:10 PM
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MikeB wrote:
At this point of time, the Amiga teams have been very busy on development and with other work.


Knitting some "boing" T-shirts? Amiga Anywear! :-D
Title: Re: No news is good news????
Post by: Unit21 on February 25, 2003, 09:34:22 PM
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mikeymike wrote:
"Hell" isn't a swearword.


And right you are.... it's actually a little town in Norway. It's a bit of a tourist-attraction actually.
Wouldn't you all like to get a post-card from Hell??

If you send me 50$ each I'll have the post-card in the mail before you know it. Hell, for 50 bucks I will personally get those T-shirts knitted too...  :-P
Title: Re: No news is good news????
Post by: jumpship on February 25, 2003, 09:54:58 PM
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z5 wrote:

Strange comparison... Actually, i just subscribed to Total Amiga magazine myself  :-P
Why? Because they have done 13 issues already on time. Something that can not be said about AmigaInc because they have released NOTHING so far


They have done thier first "Club Member" (if that is the right choice of words :lol:) magazine/newsletter. It remains to be seen if the next one comes out on time of course. Although I have to admit I am peeved at the lack of tee-shirt, not that I really want it, but it would be nice to have!

I don't deny that AmigaINC have do some very bad PR, but to say that they have done nothing is a bit ott. No offence ;-)

Still has anyone else noticed how there seems to be two conversations on this thread?! :lol:
Title: Re: No news is good news????
Post by: mikeymike on February 25, 2003, 10:00:58 PM
For the record, I would like to apologise unreservedly for my contribution to this thread :-)

Come on guys, amiga.org, let's get back to the topic :-)

.... oh yeah.  no news.  Hmm.
Title: Re: No news is good news????
Post by: on February 25, 2003, 10:09:04 PM
Well, I for one can't wait to hear it.
I'm ready.

I just hope it's better than the news that the Morph side received the other day about PegasosII.

I hope that everything is still on course and full steam ahead.
I have no reason to believe otherwise.

As far as Amiga Inc being silent....
That's understandable.

Everytime they say something, it's just twisted around by the "new generation" and used against them.

I'm cool with it.

Good luck Amiga Inc.
My hopes and prayers are with you all.
Title: Re: No news is good news????
Post by: Argo on February 25, 2003, 10:22:37 PM
No Noose is good Noose.
Title: Re: No news is good news????
Post by: on February 25, 2003, 10:57:58 PM
Please note my edited comment on page one of this thread, before one of you goes off and starts screaming foul (or FUD) again....
Title: Re: No news is good news????
Post by: Atheist on February 25, 2003, 11:41:49 PM
For the ones yelling about the demise of AInc. ...

When a dead fish washes up on the beach, a thousand Seagulls fight for it.

Where are the venture capitalists of the world. The risk takers. AmigaInc. is an injured entity. Bill and Fleecy shouldn't sell out, but you figure someone would take a chance and partner up with them. They're sitting on a treasure.

ms started as a sw/os (os???) company, and look at them now!!


takemehomegrandma said:
Knitting some "boing" T-shirts? Amiga Anywear!
/said

Truth is, they're raising sheep to get wool....
(free to feed them the lawn):-)


Amiga! Incomplete.