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Title: Oh Dear ! What an unfortunate name.....
Post by: GadgetMaster on January 17, 2005, 08:56:09 PM
Todd W (http://winsupersite.com/showcase/windowsxp_sp2_inside.asp)

I certainly would not like to be in Todd's shoes (apart from the salary bit).

Now that has to be the wierdest name I've come across recently.

Poor bugger, I bet he's heard 'em all. :-D

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Now when you overhear someone saying Win XP SP2 was created by a W**** , you'll know that he's just stating fact and not really cursing at all. :lol:
Title: Re: Oh Dear ! What an unfortunate name.....
Post by: x56h34 on January 17, 2005, 08:58:10 PM
Hehehehehe. Nice. :-)
Title: Re: Oh Dear ! What an unfortunate name.....
Post by: PMC on January 17, 2005, 09:56:31 PM
That's pure class.  

Title: Re: Oh Dear ! What an unfortunate name.....
Post by: odin on January 17, 2005, 09:56:35 PM
OMFG, Microsoft has fanboy sites too?! :-o
Title: Re: Oh Dear ! What an unfortunate name.....
Post by: Doobrey on January 17, 2005, 11:59:12 PM
I bet you all laughed and sniggered at school when you were taught about the Wankel rotary engine..
Title: Re: Oh Dear ! What an unfortunate name.....
Post by: on January 18, 2005, 12:45:29 AM
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Doobrey wrote:
I bet you all laughed and sniggered at school when you were taught about the Wankel rotary engine..


I don't recall learning about that at my poxy comprehensive. :-)
Title: Re: Oh Dear ! What an unfortunate name.....
Post by: Karlos on January 18, 2005, 12:53:54 AM
It might sound a silly name, but I remember it was quite a revolutionary (no pun intended) design...

IIRC it has fewer moving parts overall, better power transmission efficiency etc. The only stumbling block as I remember was the seals on the 'cam' (not sure what the correct term for the rotating doobrey that replaces the piston is). The materials available at the time weren't up to prolonged use, gradually wearing away and causing the thing to break down. Presumably modern materials have solved this.

Doesn't one of the newer Mazda's use a Wankel engine? Except it is now called Rotary. Presumably the marketing people thought "Wankel" was not going to sell.
Title: Re: Oh Dear ! What an unfortunate name.....
Post by: PMC on January 18, 2005, 09:00:48 AM
Wankel engines are thirsty IIRC...

Anyway, I was leafing through my paperwork yesterday morning and was handed a stack of P46 forms (these are sent to the local tax office to advise them when an employer takes on a new member of staff, listing their name, National Insurance number etc).

The company employes a large number of foreign workers, the one that caught my eye though was a gentleman named:

Mr Johnson S#itty

:lol:
Title: Re: Oh Dear ! What an unfortunate name.....
Post by: bloodline on January 18, 2005, 09:12:22 AM
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Karlos wrote:
It might sound a silly name, but I remember it was quite a revolutionary (no pun intended) design...

IIRC it has fewer moving parts overall, better power transmission efficiency etc. The only stumbling block as I remember was the seals on the 'cam' (not sure what the correct term for the rotating doobrey that replaces the piston is). The materials available at the time weren't up to prolonged use, gradually wearing away and causing the thing to break down. Presumably modern materials have solved this.

Doesn't one of the newer Mazda's use a Wankel engine? Except it is now called Rotary. Presumably the marketing people thought "Wankel" was not going to sell.


The big problem I have with them is thermal efficiency and incomplete combusion, due to the large surface area and weird shape of the combustion chamber. they will never be as efficient or clean as a standard IC engine... but the complexity of a Wankel is so much less that they are often less than half the weight of a normal engine, which balances out that :-)


Personally, I prefer the Quasiturbine :-)
Title: Re: Oh Dear ! What an unfortunate name.....
Post by: Star69 on January 18, 2005, 11:51:27 AM
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bloodline wrote:
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Karlos wrote:
It might sound a silly name, but I remember it was quite a revolutionary (no pun intended) design...

IIRC it has fewer moving parts overall, better power transmission efficiency etc. The only stumbling block as I remember was the seals on the 'cam' (not sure what the correct term for the rotating doobrey that replaces the piston is). The materials available at the time weren't up to prolonged use, gradually wearing away and causing the thing to break down. Presumably modern materials have solved this.

Doesn't one of the newer Mazda's use a Wankel engine? Except it is now called Rotary. Presumably the marketing people thought "Wankel" was not going to sell.


The big problem I have with them is thermal efficiency and incomplete combusion, due to the large surface area and weird shape of the combustion chamber. they will never be as efficient or clean as a standard IC engine... but the complexity of a Wankel is so much less that they are often less than half the weight of a normal engine, which balances out that :-)


Personally, I prefer the Quasiturbine :-)


@ Karlos... I think it's called a rotor  :-D

@ Bloodline, the poorer efficiency of the rotary engine is  to do with the compression ratio of the fuel/air mixture which can be achieved.

Also, what's a quasiturbine?  some kind of hybrid gas turbine which is efficient at low revs?
Title: Re: Oh Dear ! What an unfortunate name.....
Post by: Karlos on January 18, 2005, 12:51:54 PM
@Star69

Probably. I said cam because the non-uniform shape (which IIRC is slightly cam like) is designed to compress the combustion mixture as it revolves in the casing.
Title: Re: Oh Dear ! What an unfortunate name.....
Post by: Star69 on January 18, 2005, 02:34:47 PM
Just yanking your chain mate :-)
Title: Re: Oh Dear ! What an unfortunate name.....
Post by: Cymric on January 18, 2005, 02:59:58 PM
I hate it---I mean, really, really hate it---when people mention their little management philosophies like they have the sun shining out of their butt or something. 'When you look at all those emails, you will hardly ever see the word 'I'. I believe that in a team there is no 'I', everyone has equal say.'

Yeah.

Right.

Next time I am in a team-oriented environment as a lowly junior, I'll mention this. I am quite sure what the response will be.
Title: Re: Oh Dear ! What an unfortunate name.....
Post by: Star69 on January 18, 2005, 03:06:03 PM
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Doobrey wrote:
I bet you all laughed and sniggered at school when you were taught about the Wankel rotary engine..


I still do hehe...
Title: Re: Oh Dear ! What an unfortunate name.....
Post by: bloodline on January 18, 2005, 03:43:19 PM
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Also, what's a quasiturbine?  some kind of hybrid gas turbine which is efficient at low revs?



Not it's a bit like a Wankel engine, but it has a 4 sided rotor, the sides of the rotor are not fixed, but hinged.

Due to this the Rotor doesn't need to be offest from the drive shaft, thus it has 0 vibration and is more efficient than a Wankel, though it has similar problems.

The name, IIRC, derives fromth e fact that the design team started with the concept of the Gas turbine, and slowly developed and evolved the idea. It's quite remarkable, if there is any future in IC engines, this has to be it.
Title: Re: Oh Dear ! What an unfortunate name.....
Post by: PMC on January 18, 2005, 04:06:52 PM
Wankel sounds much funnier though. Cars are great for double entendre with phrases like "big end", "crank shaft", "gear box" and "gear knob" being used to describe various mechanical shenanigans.

(just to bring us back on topic, can't have a reasoned debate on rotary vs reciprocating combustion engines now can we?)

Must be my filthy mind?  I remember finding the grille of an Edsel Ford to be incredibly amusing...

http://www.tvhistory.tv/1958%20Edsel%20Convert%20Green.JPG

Oh and is there any truth in the urban legend that Mitsubishi's Pajero means something very obscene in Portuguese?
Title: Re: Oh Dear ! What an unfortunate name.....
Post by: Star69 on January 18, 2005, 04:21:32 PM
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PMC wrote:

Must be my filthy mind?  I remember finding the grille of an Edsel Ford to be incredibly amusing...

http://www.tvhistory.tv/1958%20Edsel%20Convert%20Green.JPG



 :roflmao:  :roflmao:  :roflmao:
Title: Re: Oh Dear ! What an unfortunate name.....
Post by: Doobrey on January 19, 2005, 12:48:40 AM
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PMC wrote:

Must be my filthy mind?  I remember finding the grille of an Edsel Ford to be incredibly amusing...
http://www.tvhistory.tv/1958%20Edsel%20Convert%20Green.JPG


 ..innocent whistle..
 Nope, dunno what you mean.. doesn`t look anything like a fanny
 ..innocent whistle..

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Oh and is there any truth in the urban legend that Mitsubishi's Pajero means something very obscene in Portuguese?


Dunno, but I heard that "Coca-Cola" in Cantonese means "eat a wax tadpole", and that British Leyland had to rename the Allegro for the French market, cos it sounded like "go fat person".. and you don`t need to be told what the Toyota MR-2 translated as....
Title: Re: Oh Dear ! What an unfortunate name.....
Post by: PMC on January 19, 2005, 09:12:39 AM
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Doobrey wrote:
http://www.tvhistory.tv/1958%20Edsel%20Convert%20Green.JPG

 ..innocent whistle..
 Nope, dunno what you mean.. doesn`t look anything like a fanny
 ..innocent whistle..


Haha!  I wonder what was on the stylists minds when they sketched the front of the Edsel?  Actually I may have discovered the perfect company car for one of my bosses.

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and you don`t need to be told what the Toyota MR-2 translated as....


:lol:

Speaking of which, the Japanese market has given is a few gems too:

http://www.engrish.com/detail.php?imagename=rav4.jpg&category=Cars&date=2004-08-18
http://www.engrish.com/detail.php?imagename=cr-v.jpg&category=Cars&date=2002-06-17

Title: Re: Oh Dear ! What an unfortunate name.....
Post by: on January 19, 2005, 07:18:36 PM
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Star69 wrote:
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PMC wrote:

Must be my filthy mind?  I remember finding the grille of an Edsel Ford to be incredibly amusing...

http://www.tvhistory.tv/1958%20Edsel%20Convert%20Green.JPG



 :roflmao:  :roflmao:  :roflmao:


Adds somewhat more weight to the phrase "Ride the punani". ;-)
Title: Re: Oh Dear ! What an unfortunate name.....
Post by: PMC on January 19, 2005, 09:18:37 PM
Even though the Edsel was designed in very innocent times (the 1950s), it's difficult to imagine that not one single person pointed out the hilarity of that grille.  I mean, there must have been some married men on the design team?

I wonder what the reaction would be today if someone else unveiled a car with a similar grille?  

Come to think of it, it's an apt motif for BMW to adopt...