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Amiga computer related discussion => General chat about Amiga topics => Topic started by: Plaz on January 11, 2005, 03:28:55 AM

Title: Suggestions for a Mac G4 Cube?
Post by: Plaz on January 11, 2005, 03:28:55 AM
I just picked up a non-working one of these up for free.
I quick DC converter card reset and it's online again.
So.... anyone have any cool suggestions on what I can
do with one of these that I couldn't do with an Ami or PC?
It's got firewire, so video work would be a good thing.
I wonder in I can get any kind of a trade-in deal on
an Aone or uAone?  Didn't think so :-)

Plaz
Title: Re: Suggestions for a Mac G4 Cube?
Post by: adolescent on January 11, 2005, 03:42:12 AM
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Plaz wrote:

So.... anyone have any cool suggestions on what I can
do with one of these that I couldn't do with an Ami or PC?


Run MacOS X.  :-)  You can upgrade the video card, and things like memory etc.  But, it really only excels at looking cute.
Title: Re: Suggestions for a Mac G4 Cube?
Post by: Wolfe on January 11, 2005, 04:29:56 AM
@Plaz

You might get some ideas here - CubeOwner (http://www.cubeowner.com/gallery/casemods)

Run OS X - have fun   :-)

And if all else fails, you could sell the parts and put a µA1 in that case. . .  :-D
Title: Re: Suggestions for a Mac G4 Cube?
Post by: Ilwrath on January 11, 2005, 04:42:53 AM
eBay it.  Personlly, I think the Cubes are about useless...  But there's a whole group of Mac addicts who worship the stupid things for some reason.  Unload it to one of them and then use the profits to buy something you'd get more use out of.  :-)

Title: Re: Suggestions for a Mac G4 Cube?
Post by: JKD on January 11, 2005, 05:31:57 AM
eh? Are you mad?

With the software base of the Mac, a cube is 1,000 x more useful than any Amiga (or clone).

As well as upgraded GFX/mem....there are a whole raft of CPU expansions for it if you feel like investing the price of a Pegasos you can get 1.5GHz G4 ;-)

Personally I got Powerlogix 1GHz G4, NVidia GF3, 1.5GB RAM and a DVD-RAM/RW / CD-R/RW MCE superdrive in mine and running OSX.3.7.

That said, you could eBay it to some foo' and put the money towards a G5 machine ;-)
Title: Re: Suggestions for a Mac G4 Cube?
Post by: Ilwrath on January 11, 2005, 06:10:50 AM
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eh? Are you mad?


Are you?  

The thing has no PCI slots, practically no air circulation, requires those costly custom (and easy to jam - especially with copy-protected music CDs!) slot-load CD/DVD drives, an underwhelming power supply, a nifty 'touch-on' power switch that works when it feels like it, and room enough for 1 whole internal hard drive.  Plus it's too big and oddly shaped to really look right on a small desk, and it's too small and inconvenient to put on the floor.  

I like most Macs well enough, but if someone handed me a Cube the first thing I'd do is unload it to one of the fans of the thing.  I might turn back around and buy one of those new rumored cheap Pizza-Box styled Macs, though.  (provided it addressed the issues above)  :lol:
Title: Re: Suggestions for a Mac G4 Cube?
Post by: Lemmink on January 11, 2005, 07:54:48 AM
Well I'd love to have one of those, unfortunately Apple stopped production of it when I got the money for it.
It's a wounderfull piece of craftmanship and design. Adding some RAM and the "better" graphicscard it even still packs a punch.
From the price side I would be well tempted to exchange my mA1 for this baby since the cube sometimes sells for more then new. Only the uncertainity of geting another mA1 in the near future is stopping me from takeing on the offer (and of course the distance).
Title: Re: Suggestions for a Mac G4 Cube?
Post by: Hattig on January 11, 2005, 12:10:54 PM
Well it seems that G4 Cubes are still getting $500+ on eBay, possibly more. I'd just sell it, get the money, and get one of those rumoured sub-$500 iMacs that will be way better specced!
Title: Re: Suggestions for a Mac G4 Cube?
Post by: Plaz on January 12, 2005, 03:06:26 AM
Well I guess I shouldn't be suprised there weren't too many suggestions. :-)

Since I'm not interested in spending $130 for the latest MacOS X.3, that ebay mention might happen.
I did like the uA1 motherboard implant suggestion, but I don't think it has a snowball's chance of fitting.
Too bad really... it is kinda cute.
I looked up a CPU speed hack for it. I might tinker a bit before I let it loose.
Don't worry, I won't hurt the tiny thing :-P

Plaz
Title: Re: Suggestions for a Mac G4 Cube?
Post by: DonnyEMU on January 12, 2005, 03:21:52 AM
Why get rid of the G4 cube.. It warms up sandwiches so nicely...

 :-P  8-)
Title: Re: Suggestions for a Mac G4 Cube?
Post by: Ilwrath on January 12, 2005, 03:34:14 AM
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Well it seems that G4 Cubes are still getting $500+ on eBay, possibly more. I'd just sell it, get the money, and get one of those rumoured sub-$500 iMacs that will be way better specced!


That was my point... unload it.  People out there are willing to pay more than it's worth.  Of course, now they're going to buy the new cheap MiniMac.  (Which, IMHO the only problem it addressed from the G4 cube's run was the price.)
Title: Re: Suggestions for a Mac G4 Cube?
Post by: Wolfe on January 12, 2005, 06:12:10 AM
@Plaz

You could fit a µA1 in it with some custom work.

ITX Cube (http://mini-itx.com/projects/g4pc/)

Glow Cube (http://cubeowner.com/gallery/Project-X86-Cube)

As illistrated above, its been done with ITX PC boards.   :-)
Title: Re: Suggestions for a Mac G4 Cube?
Post by: Waccoon on January 12, 2005, 07:01:35 AM
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Lemmink:  It's a wounderfull piece of craftmanship and design

Then why did Apple discontinue it?  Obviously, people didn't like it and Apple felt compelled to replace it with the Mac Mini.

I like Ilwrath's review.  It *is* too damn big to put on a desk, especially since you can't put anything on top of it.
Title: Re: Suggestions for a Mac G4 Cube?
Post by: Holley on January 12, 2005, 07:08:26 PM
Mac Mini (http://www.apple.com/macmini/)

Now you can have Mini ITX size, and run OSX, Linux and WindowsXP (soonish) natively.  And maybe some enterprising sort will port OS4 to it eventually ...
Title: Re: Suggestions for a Mac G4 Cube?
Post by: Plaz on January 15, 2005, 05:22:58 PM
@Wolfe

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You could fit a µA1 in it with some custom work.



Thanks for those links, those are pretty cool ideals.
If and when uA1 MB prices come down. I'll definitly
concider it.

Plaz
Title: Re: Suggestions for a Mac G4 Cube?
Post by: Dan on January 15, 2005, 10:34:38 PM
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Waccoon wrote:
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Lemmink:  It's a wounderfull piece of craftmanship and design

Then why did Apple discontinue it?

Steve Jobs had gas or a bad hair day? :lol:
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Obviously, people didn't like it and Apple felt compelled to replace it with the Mac Mini.

There is no  connection between then other than size AFAIK.
the Macmini is a return to the original Imac concept as it started with the old blue CRT-Imac. A machine as cheap as a pc to get more students and other "non-power users".
Title: Re: Suggestions for a Mac G4 Cube?
Post by: dslcc on January 16, 2005, 01:02:15 AM
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Since I'm not interested in spending $130 for the latest MacOS X.3


Don't buy Panther at the store. Buy it from OWC (http://eshop.macsales.com/shop/osx-center/software-and-more/). They have some great prices on Mac OS X disks.

Got OSX 10.1 at OWC (http://eshop.macsales.com/shop/osx-center/software-and-more/) for $5.99 and 10.2 for about $25.

In fact if you don't need Panther and can do with Jaguar, I could give you my disks. ??
 :-)
Title: Re: Suggestions for a Mac G4 Cube?
Post by: Waccoon on January 16, 2005, 04:19:30 AM
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the Macmini is a return to the original Imac concept as it started with the old blue CRT-Imac. A machine as cheap as a pc to get more students and other "non-power users".

To be fair, the biggest complaint I had about the original iMac is that at a price that was affordable, it forced you to use a puny 15" screen instead of letting you get whatever you want.  No matter how slow a system is, I could not live without my 20" Optiquest CRT.  To get more flexibility (including PCI slots), you had to pay at least a $500 price premium for a tower.  The cube corrected that, but was still too pricey.  Mac Mini corrects this problem completely.

I'm still not sure if I should buy one, though.  I do mostly architecture-independent stuff, like Java and web interfaces.  New ceramic engine headers for my Subaru would get much more use.  :-)