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Title: Has anyone used AmigaOS XL?
Post by: Antiriad on January 10, 2005, 08:59:42 PM

I read this article.

http://www.osnews.com/story.php?news_id=604&page=1

It was dated back in 2002. It looks like the only Amiga OS distribution that runs on a native x86 Architecture but cannot run PPC applications.

http://www.amithlon.com/

Is this OS system still Alive?

Which is the best distribution so far....

Thanks

Mike

Title: Re: Has anyone used AmigaOS XL?
Post by: 4pLaY on January 10, 2005, 09:13:36 PM

No its dead thanx to internal was between the people who made it im afraid.

Title: Re: Has anyone used AmigaOS XL?
Post by: Matt_H on January 10, 2005, 10:57:30 PM

I never really understood the difference between Amithlon and OS XL. Was OS XL just another name for the tweaked version of 3.9 that Amithlon ran?

Title: Re: Has anyone used AmigaOS XL?
Post by: Linchpin on January 10, 2005, 11:20:06 PM

I have it... Its the fastest (by far) amigaOS i have ever used.

Title: Re: Has anyone used AmigaOS XL?
Post by: on January 10, 2005, 11:31:49 PM

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LinchpiN wrote:
I have it... Its the fastest (by far) amigaOS i have ever used.

Faster than amithlon?

Ain't OSXL just QNX with UAE?

Title: Re: Has anyone used AmigaOS XL?
Post by: adolescent on January 11, 2005, 12:49:58 AM

Amithlon was fast for it's day, but I think the newer WinUAE JIT has caught up.

Title: Re: Has anyone used AmigaOS XL?
Post by: itix on January 11, 2005, 12:57:20 AM

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Ain't OSXL just QNX with UAE?

Here is some information about it: http://amiga.emugaming.com/emulators/amigaosxl.html (http://amiga.emugaming.com/emulators/amigaosxl.html)

It seems it was only QNX + UAE without chipset emulation. I don't see difference to Amithlon...

Title: Re: Has anyone used AmigaOS XL?
Post by: that_punk_guy on January 11, 2005, 01:05:30 AM

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itix wrote:

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Ain't OSXL just QNX with UAE?

Here is some information about it: http://amiga.emugaming.com/emulators/amigaosxl.html (http://amiga.emugaming.com/emulators/amigaosxl.html)

It seems it was only QNX + UAE without chipset emulation. I don't see difference to Amithlon...

IIRC the only difference is that OSXL sacrifices compatibility for speed.

Title: Re: Has anyone used AmigaOS XL?
Post by: on January 11, 2005, 01:11:41 AM

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itix wrote:

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Ain't OSXL just QNX with UAE?

Here is some information about it: http://amiga.emugaming.com/emulators/amigaosxl.html (http://amiga.emugaming.com/emulators/amigaosxl.html)

It seems it was only QNX + UAE without chipset emulation. I don't see difference to Amithlon...

From what I understand, OSXL is the complete QNX RTP Desktop OS with UAE, just like we can run Windows XP with UAE.

Amithlon boots a Linux kernel, not a full OS.

Title: Re: Has anyone used AmigaOS XL?
Post by: henribarbu on January 24, 2005, 04:07:00 PM

Amithlon  = linux 2.4 + something
Amiga OS XL = QNX + something

By the way, Amithlon still run fine,
I've tested it with a Fujitsu-Siemens laptop.
Openpci and AHI drivers are still developed for it.

Actualy, UAE (E-uae) is faster on my box (mainly due to use of vesa drivers with amithlon). When I use Abrowse with Amithlon, I never use the up and down keys or I have to wait some secs till the end of scrolling.
Anyway, neither Amithlon or AmigaosXL supports AGA or Paula.
If you want to play old games, you need UAE.
As both Amithlon and XL are not FULL OS, UAE is more suitable and is easily integrated with you current OS.

Title: Re: Has anyone used AmigaOS XL?
Post by: Kronos on January 24, 2005, 04:22:35 PM

Tstst it's so easy....

AmigaXL == UAE for QNX
Amithlon == tailor-made JIT on a minimal Linux-kernel, with direct acces to the host HW.

AmigaOS-XL == package containig AmigaXL, Amithlon, OS3.9, ONX, AmigaWriter and ArtEffect3.

@adolescent

Amithlon at that time reached about twice the speed on pure calculation, GFX-acceses was a complete leaque of it's own du to directly writting into the AGP-card instead of an emulated Z3-card which was than copied into the AGP-card by the host OS.

Removing most of the chipset support also meant that syncronsation wasn't an issue anymore, which is the major reason for the better JIT-performance, and useing native x86-code in GFX-drivers and such gave another boost, so you can still bet my hairy palm  :lol: that Amithlon will easily beat UAE on the same HW (if the HW is supported by one of the Amithlon-kernels).