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Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga Hardware Issues and discussion => Topic started by: odin on January 06, 2005, 07:55:00 PM
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Clickety-click (http://www.computercity.biz/product_info.php?cPath=21_77&products_id=2452&osCsid=f6c595f93346cf6df4e651f5b240f94c)
AmiVD 149.00EUR
- 3dfx graphics processor
- 128-bit 2D/3D Video Accelerator
- 16MB SDRAM
- 166MHz graphics core/memory clock speed
- 350 MHz RAMDAC
- 166 Megapixels/second
- 333 Megatexels/second fill rate
- 7 million polygons per second processing
- 2D Resolution up to 2046x1536 @ 75Hz
- Amiga ZorroII/III interface bus
For more information, please visit this products webpage.
:-o
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Googling AmiVD shows a bit more coverage, but not much. Apparently is was announced in the German-speaking part of Amigaland in October or thereabouts.
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INTERESTING
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I saw this on the German side of Amiga-news.de a few days ago. It looks pretty impressive, but the Zorro2 interface is going to be slooooooow...
Upon further examination, this thing has 16MB of RAM. Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't that out of the addressable range of the Zorro2 bus? Maybe by bypassing autoconfig it could work? Who knows, perhaps the board will fall back to 4MB in Zorro2 systems.
I hope this turns out to be more than vapor...
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@Matt_H:
Yeah, falling back to a 4MB window to the AmiVD VRAM in Zorro2 mode would be the most sensible thing as using more Zorro2 address-space than 4MB would start to cut down on the compability with other expansions rather extensively. 16MB would be impossible even if autoconfig was bypassed as that is the total amount of adressable space (24-bit = 16MB) of the 68k localbus in a Zorro2-based machine.
/Patrik
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Didn´t AHT Europe buy the rights for the Prometheus in order to produce their own range of Amiga cards ???
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Found something :
"As of July 22nd, 2004, AHT Europe Ltd. and Matay signed an agreement providing licence rights for the PCI busboard Prometheus, developed by Matay for Zorro III Amiga systems.
The licence includes circuit diagrams, firmware source code, RTL8029 source code, prometheus.library source code, the programming device and developer documentation.
By this agreement, AHT Europe Ltd. acquires the right to freely modify and integrate the Prometheus design into new products."
and also :
"Ultra Spec will carry products for the 'classic' Amiga series of computers like the AmiVD graphics board, as well as the initial batch of A700 devices which is aimed at current and potential new Amiga developers for AHT Europe's new platform."
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@Effy
Sounds about right.
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Effy wrote:
...the initial batch of A700 devices which is aimed at current and potential new Amiga developers for AHT Europe's new platform."
Oooh, whats that all about then?
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A700 devices? :inquisitive:
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Palpatine is the right guy to asks.
a really interessing news, indeed :-)
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Maybe it's just a single-pci prometheus with a voodoo card?
Shouldnt there be a pic of this thing somewhere?
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MrZammler wrote:
Maybe it's just a single-pci prometheus with a voodoo card?
Shouldnt there be a pic of this thing somewhere?
My thinking was the someone had found a an old crate with a couple of hundred Voodoo chips in it... These guys have bought them (cheap) and plan to use the old Prometheus chips to interface the PCI Voodoos to a Zorro bus all on one card.
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Basically Xsurf kinda thingy then in your guess.
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A700! That is probably the AHT-700 which is a set-top box based on PPC running Linux. The set-top box has DVD playback and recording among other features.
AHT-700 Info (http://www.fadbox.de/computercity/AHT/cms/cms/front_content.php?idcat=3)
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so this "A700" has nothing to do with the amiga.. a zorro3 voodoo3 card sounds kewl though.. but would't one get a full version of the prometheus board for less than 149Eur? Anyway I hope it will be released some day..
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Indeed a Zorro II version would have even bigger performance limitations than we initially thought. We don't know yet if it really could make sense - it's possible that we are going to publish a list of the limitations once we know them all ourselves and ask the community then if you still want a Zorro II version anyway. But we won't release more information about the AmiVD (Zorro III) until the product is ready. To avoid creating expectations we probably might not be able to fulfill in the end. Thanks for your understanding.
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And what about the future of the Prometheus itself then ??? Has Redrumloa still got some for sale or has he been the last one to sell them ???
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planning a new "Z3 only" GFX card, would be a suicide (from a commercial PoV) as the Prometeus has been.
A Zorro2-3 would extend the sales to others Amiga models.
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Hi All
Sure we want a Z2 version.
Think in the A2K owners and A1200 Z2 busboard owners, that surely will bought the card.
There are lots ( speaking in Amiga numbers of course ) of acelerated A2000s and tons of 1200 with Z2/z4 busboards.
I introduce myself to be betatester of the Hard in the z2/z3 version.
Best Regards
-FrankB
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I always thought a better approach for the 2000 would be to design something that attached to the accellerator card. Nobody's running a stock 2000 anymore. I know the specs of the Commodore 030 slot are available... not sure about GVP. Perhaps something that fit under the cpu chip itself...
just a notion... but it would get rid of the Zorro II speed and address space limits. I did some searching a while back and found it's possible to do a 68000 to PCI interface with 2 chips.
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Hi there
A2k users with 040/060s are not going to trash their boards just to take a new GFX.
Just A z2, limited ok, will do fine for 2K users and 1200 with Zorro buses. And, hey, there are 3k and 4k users that are haveing problems to run Z3 cards since they dont have the latest revision of the custom chipset, so a Z2 will be viable for their too.
Think that making it Z2/Z3 would expand the available market for that cardin a GOOD amount of units sold.
Best Regards!
-FrankB
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If the sale of a Z3-only board is suicide, then why did the Cybervision64 have so much success in A4000´s and A3000´s ??? :-?
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Effy wrote:
If the sale of a Z3-only board is suicide, then why did the Cybervision64 have so much success in A4000´s and A3000´s ??? :-?
Cos it was released ~10 years ago ? In a time when the market was between 20 and 100 times bigger than it is now.....
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~10 years ago ??? :-? Oops, didn´t know it was THAT old stuff ...