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Title: Checksum Error in the Community!
Post by: ACEFNQ on February 22, 2003, 03:14:45 PM
I don't post here often but I do view every day and have done for years.  Although I now use a high end PC, I love the Aimga experience ( still have one 1200 working) and await patiently for the new stuff to arrive.  As stated in my earlier post this year I am so disappointed with the negativity surrounding everything Amiga.  In THIS post an Amigan asked a simple question about CHECKSUM and one of the answers contained the word STUPID!

Let's get real and back to basics, a question asked should be answered sensitively according the perceived knowledge of the requestor.  Continuously piss people off and that's where they'll go, elswhere, and your chances of getting an updated system and or hardware becomes even more remote.

Whether this person is new to Amiga or is just now experimenting, try to give constructive advice to them or those who might try to answer in good faith, or shut up and go elwhere.

Well done Aimga Inc, who sometimes (joke) pay Hyperion who are legends.  It's your money!  Now you keep the faith. The Aimga community is worth it despite ill thought responses!
Title: Re: Checksum Error in the Community!
Post by: SlimJim on February 22, 2003, 04:35:09 PM
Having read the thread you refer to, the word "stupid" was
not referrimng to the poster of the original question, but
towards someone posting a solution of which he did not
approve. And to be fair, the person writing that did not
seem like a native english speaker, and so did probably not
put as much weight in the word as you seem to do.
 
However, whereas your example was somewhat off the
mark, I agree that every and all questions should be
answered politely and patiently. There are no stupid
questions, only stupid answers, as they say.
 
But generally, I think the Amiga community really shines in
the technical savvy aspect. No problem there - it's only
when it comes to emotions and preferences that we tend to
start to quarrel...
 
 ...as the homo sapiens that we are.
.
SlimJim
Title: Re: Checksum Error in the Community!
Post by: uncharted on February 22, 2003, 04:45:30 PM
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SlimJim wrote:
 
But generally, I think the Amiga community really shines in
the technical savvy aspect.



I agree.  I tried getting help from the Mac community, but they suck at this kind of thing.  I end up asking PC and mac questions on Amiga forums :-D

TBH it's the amiga community that keeps me with the system.  Even the few extreamist plums around can't put be off.
Title: Re: Checksum Error in the Community!
Post by: Waccoon on February 22, 2003, 06:31:14 PM
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Let's get real and back to basics, a question asked should be answered sensitively according the perceived knowledge of the requestor.

Computer geeks still act like elitists.  I don't think that will ever change, but I suppose it is getting better.  It's not as easy to tell someone, "Read The F***ing Manual", since more and more computer products don't even have one these days!

Here's a feature I'd like to see in AmigaOS:  A glossary of computer terms.  Don't know what a checksum is?  Don't dig through obscure webpages.  Press the help key and type in the word!  I think that would be a very powerful addition to the OS and would be greatly appreciated.

I wanted to find out what "CL2" memory was, but when I typed in "CL2 Memory" in Google, all I got was a list of vendors selling CL3 memory, or reviews saying you should "always buy CL2 memory".  It took me about an hour of searching before I found an obscure tech site that EXPLAINED the difference between CL2 and CL3.

Now, of course, the term "CL" has been replaced with "CAS".  How do "normal" people keep up with this kind of stuff?  Well, they give up wasting hours of their life scouring the Internet for meaningless geek speak, and buy a Dell.  ;-)

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I agree. I tried getting help from the Mac community, but they suck at this kind of thing.

Sad, but true.  It's especially bad with technically infirior products.  I had lots of trouble with MacOS 7.5 crashing on me, so I went to some Mac experts for help.  They ALL told me it was bad system extentions and I had to delete crap I didn't need.  Well, that's nice, but an OS is *supposed* to manage system extentions and conflicts automaticly, and MacOS was too incompetent to do so.  I thought MacOS 7.5 was supposed to be so easy to use?  So why did Mac people treat me like an idiot when system extentions caused conflicts?  Especially since MS Word and Photoshop were the only apps installed on the machine.  What am I supposed to do?  Delete all extentions used by MS and Adobe?

Mac people were no help back then.  Times may have changed, but I haven't used MacOS X yet, so I don't know what the attitude is today.
Title: Re: Checksum Error in the Community!
Post by: Damion on February 24, 2003, 10:22:32 AM
The amiga people generally appear to be the most
helpful, and overall they seem to be a bit more
savvy than most Mac and PC zealots. Macs are
a piece of cake after setting up a 'modern' amiga
from scratch, but don't ask Mac users when problems
arise. They say everything is 'extensions'. Anything
more complex and they'll probably just tell you to
wipe the system and start over 'ala Windows.

People are idiots...our no. 1 rated local computer
store recently told me that 2.5" to 3.5" hard disk
adapters (to hook a notebook drive to a normal 3.5"
IDE connector) don't exist...what I needed was a
"data - transfer cable with USB"...ten minutes
later I ordered the adapter online from CompUSA.
I was shocked that the owners of a computer store
could be so seemingly clueless.

Title: Re: Checksum Error in the Community!
Post by: CD32Freak on February 24, 2003, 10:38:00 AM
It's time for a Guru Meditation in the Amiga community! :lol:  :-D
Title: Re: Checksum Error in the Community!
Post by: Rudei on February 24, 2003, 11:04:18 AM
The "stupid" post was actually in reponse to something I had written, with the poster saying he didn`t approve of my solution.

My first reaction was to take offense, but after having read it a couple of times I thought better of it.

I simply explained that DiskSalve worked for me, and was perfectly upto the job for my needs.

Concerning the negativity in the Amiga community, I do have to agree with you.  You`ll see by my first ever post on this website I was slated and accused of not owning genuine originals of certain software which didn`t bode well for any new user.

Fortuanately, I`m not swayed that easily but I can see how others may have been.   :-)
Title: Re: Checksum Error in the Community!
Post by: fjudde on February 24, 2003, 11:31:03 AM
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It's time for a Guru Meditation in the Amiga community!  


And reboot :-P
Title: Re: Checksum Error in the Community!
Post by: CD32Freak on February 24, 2003, 12:08:11 PM
Yeah, everybody please press Ctrl-Amiga-Amiga now and let's boot again! :lol: ;-)
Title: Re: Checksum Error in the Community!
Post by: Rudei on February 24, 2003, 12:19:13 PM
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Yeah, everybody please press Ctrl-Amiga-Amiga now and let's boot again!


Rebooting - isn`t that a Windows solution?  :-D
Title: Re: Checksum Error in the Community!
Post by: on February 24, 2003, 12:25:47 PM
As soon as the morphies leave this place and go to thier own site, then we can get back to intelligent conversations.
Title: Re: Checksum Error in the Community!
Post by: Rudei on February 24, 2003, 12:28:54 PM
@Mountain_Myst

you`ve done it now - prepare for war!   :-)
Title: Re: Checksum Error in the Community!
Post by: on February 24, 2003, 12:29:26 PM
Bring it on, Big Boy.
Title: Re: Checksum Error in the Community!
Post by: Rudei on February 24, 2003, 12:33:58 PM
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Bring it on, Big Boy.


Not from me, I`m pro A1OS4 (not anti MorphOS thou)
I meant from the Morphies  :-)