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Title: Top hangover cures?
Post by: Star69 on December 31, 2004, 09:46:40 AM
As it's the season for it, and there's a few people going to need them tomorrow, what are your top hangover cures?

Mine are -

1. Burnt toast - doesn't taste very nice, but does the job if you can get it down.

2. IRN BRU - a good Scottish (non-alcoholic) drink.

3. A greasy fry-up.

4. If it's really bad, more beer - sleep the rest of the day :)

Happy Hogmanay
Title: Re: Top hangover cures?
Post by: Cymric on December 31, 2004, 10:42:16 AM
5. Do not drink booze in copious quantities in the first place. 100% satisfaction guaranteed.

6. But if you are drinking too heavily: before you go to bed, drink lots of water. If you get up in the middle of the night, drink more. The hangover is mostly caused by dehydration, and this mitigates the headache/dead-horse-in-mouth effect to a great extent.
Title: Re: Top hangover cures?
Post by: Speelgoedmannetje on December 31, 2004, 01:01:44 PM
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Cymric wrote:
5. Do not drink booze in copious quantities in the first place. 100% satisfaction guaranteed.
Urgh...
you should have said that earlier.. ;-)
Title: Re: Top hangover cures?
Post by: on December 31, 2004, 01:04:56 PM
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6. But if you are drinking too heavily: before you go to bed, drink lots of water. If you get up in the middle of the night, drink more. The hangover is mostly caused by dehydration, and this mitigates the headache/dead-horse-in-mouth effect to a great extent.
Absolutely agreed.  Medically speaking, it's the only real preventative/cure for a hangover.

Since I'm the old guy here, let me just say that you should all enjoy yourselves tonight, but don't get stupid.  We would prefer to have all of our users alive on 1/1/2005.

Wayne
Title: Re: Top hangover cures?
Post by: odin on December 31, 2004, 01:18:06 PM
Would we? ;-).
Title: Re: Top hangover cures?
Post by: Vincent on December 31, 2004, 02:36:00 PM
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Wayne wrote:
Absolutely agreed.  Medically speaking, it's the only real preventative/cure for a hangover.

Never works for me.  If I drink water after a night out I end up putting the water into the toilet via my mouth :-(

I have a slice or two of bread before going to bed.  After getting up I spend the first few hours eating bread and have one cup of coffee (unusually black as the milk would have me chucking up again).

Okay, so I have a bit of a hangover for an hour or so first thing in the morning, but the rest of the day is back to normal :-)
Title: Re: Top hangover cures?
Post by: Star69 on December 31, 2004, 02:40:49 PM
Ok, forgot the water, but hangovers aren't just caused by dehydration, although that is the major contributor.  

People have noticed for years that darker drinks give worse hangovers than lighter drinks (i.e. whisky as opposed to gin) because of complex protein (i think) compounds called congeners.  Also, combining congeners from different drinks tends to leave you feeling worse in the morning... hence the saying don't mix the grape and grain...

The burnt toast works because of the carbon in it which acts as a filter for the congeners.

p.s. coffee is not good for a hangover because of the diuretic effect
Title: Re: Top hangover cures?
Post by: Speelgoedmannetje on December 31, 2004, 03:06:20 PM
Think tonight it's gluhwein and beer, rather than gin or whisky for me.

btw. if I stick with one kind of beer (from bottle), I can drink as much as I want without getting a hangover.
Title: Re: Top hangover cures?
Post by: Vincent on December 31, 2004, 03:14:00 PM
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Star69 wrote:
p.s. coffee is not good for a hangover because of the diuretic effect

I suppose I should've stated that the coffe is there just to help peel my eyes open ;-)
Title: Re: Top hangover cures?
Post by: KennyR on December 31, 2004, 06:07:37 PM
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Star69 wrote:
Ok, forgot the water, but hangovers aren't just caused by dehydration, although that is the major contributor.


Yep, hangovers are partly caused by toxins produced by the breakdown of alcohols in the liver. Ethanol is a poison, most people don't seem to realise that.

Plenty of fluids, some rest, and some aspirin is the best cure. Eating also helps by shifting the body's funtions to digestion rather than making more toxins.
Title: Re: Top hangover cures?
Post by: T_Bone on December 31, 2004, 06:45:40 PM
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Title: Re: Top hangover cures?
Post by: on December 31, 2004, 07:28:49 PM
My cure that works everytime, is Drink a couple of bottles of Lucozade Sport before bed, and two more when you wake up.  Chain smoke your way through a pack of 20 fags until you're stomach feels ready for a great big bacon and runny egg butty with lots of brown sauce.  Followed by a cup of tea and a hot shower.

:-)
Title: Re: Top hangover cures?
Post by: KennyR on December 31, 2004, 07:45:27 PM
Yes, tea is good.

;)
Title: Re: Top hangover cures?
Post by: on December 31, 2004, 07:59:33 PM
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KennyR wrote:
Yes, tea is good.

;)


I'm usually a coffee drinker, but with a hangover tea tastes so much better than coffee does!

Also, I forgot to add: Take any pain killer that has an opiate in it such as dihydrocodeine or similar.  Kills those headaches faster than anything else does. :-D
Title: Re: Top hangover cures?
Post by: cecilia on December 31, 2004, 08:49:28 PM
something tells me i'll be one of the few sober people here tomorrow.
 :-D
Title: Re: Top hangover cures?
Post by: AccyD on December 31, 2004, 09:16:00 PM
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cecilia wrote:
something tells me i'll be one of the few sober people here tomorrow.
 :-D


I will be sober too!  :cry:

I'm too ill to be drinking.
Title: Re: Top hangover cures?
Post by: cecilia on December 31, 2004, 10:04:26 PM
well, i'll be damned!
Scottish Wine!!! (http://www.cairnomohr.co.uk/framepage/ourwinespage.htm)
Title: Re: Top hangover cures?
Post by: T_Bone on December 31, 2004, 10:40:43 PM
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cecilia wrote:
something tells me i'll be one of the few sober people here tomorrow.
 :-D


I'll be sober, but I'll probably have legendary heartburn from my wife's red hot hopping john.

( :lol: Do yankees know what hopping john is? That could sound funny if not)
Title: Re: Top hangover cures?
Post by: Speelgoedmannetje on January 01, 2005, 06:54:54 AM
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mdma wrote:
Chain smoke your way through a pack of 20 fags until you're stomach feels ready for a great big bacon and runny egg butty with lots of brown sauce.
good advice, apart from the fact that not everyone smokes fags...



@T-Bone
yes that sure does sound strange,
who's that John guy anyway?
Title: Re: Top hangover cures?
Post by: whabang on January 01, 2005, 09:35:19 AM
The best hang-over prevention is to have a glass of water for every second drink you have.

I've only been hung over once, but thanks to my girlfriend I managed to make it go away by copious ammonts of ice-cream! :-)
Title: Re: Top hangover cures?
Post by: Cymric on January 01, 2005, 12:36:12 PM
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KennyR wrote:
Yep, hangovers are partly caused by toxins produced by the breakdown of alcohols in the liver. Ethanol is a poison, most people don't seem to realise that.

Since you are a chemist, consider the following: ethanol is readily transformed into ethanal, which is the nasty chemical your body doesn't respond well to---and also causes hangover symptoms. (I was taught however that dehydration is the main cause of heangovers.) Ethanal is catalytically broken down by means of a copper-containing peptide. Imagine what would happen if you fed a heavy drinker a small dose of a very strongly copper-complexing compound, say EDTA or a derivative.
Title: Re: Top hangover cures?
Post by: redrumloa on January 03, 2005, 05:15:34 PM
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Wayne wrote:
Since I'm the old guy here, let me just say that you should all enjoy yourselves tonight, but don't get stupid.  We would prefer to have all of our users alive on 1/1/2005.


Dammit Wayne you beat me to the punch;-)

Yeah I found the perfect cure for a hang over, stop drinking;-)
Title: Re: Top hangover cures?
Post by: zudobug on January 03, 2005, 05:45:45 PM
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Yeah I found the perfect cure for a hang over, stop drinking


:-)

That one has worked for me too. Although I did have a wee nip of something toxic on new years eve.

But failing that, keep drinking! I'm surprised no-one has mentioned hair of the dog yet (or if they have I apologise for not spotting it.) That has also worked very well for me in the past.  :-P

I haven't said it before so I will now, nappy yew hear everyone! Lets hope 2005 has some good stuff in it.

-zudo
Title: Re: Top hangover cures?
Post by: KennyR on January 03, 2005, 05:59:17 PM
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Cymric wrote:
Since you are a chemist, consider the following: ethanol is readily transformed into ethanal, which is the nasty chemical your body doesn't respond well to---and also causes hangover symptoms. (I was taught however that dehydration is the main cause of heangovers.) Ethanal is catalytically broken down by means of a copper-containing peptide. Imagine what would happen if you fed a heavy drinker a small dose of a very strongly copper-complexing compound, say EDTA or a derivative.


I know EDTA is already used in medicine to complex with metals, in coronary patients at least, so it could work in theory. Supposing it actually did work and it inhibited the action of the enzyme responsible for oxidising ethanol. The overall effect on the body from ethanol then would be much the same as for other members of the primary alcohol family, which we have no enzymes to protect against: that is, blindness, CNS damage, liver scarring, and probable death. Dying is one way to cure a hangover I suppose... ;)
Title: Re: Top hangover cures?
Post by: Speelgoedmannetje on January 03, 2005, 06:06:59 PM
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zudobug wrote:
But failing that, keep drinking! I'm surprised no-one has mentioned hair of the dog yet (or if they have I apologise for not spotting it.)
Don't forget the egg and the pepper :-)
Title: Re: Top hangover cures?
Post by: CU_AMiGA on January 04, 2005, 01:51:18 PM
HHHMMM! A little late for me now, as i was wasted during the New Year, but will follows these tips next time. Cheers guys! :-)

PS: Sumner7 has a very bad drinking problem (and he isn't even 18 yet!), anyone can help him?!

Regards,
Title: Re: Top hangover cures?
Post by: bloodline on January 04, 2005, 02:10:59 PM
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CU_AMiGA wrote:
HHHMMM! A little late for me now, as i was wasted during the New Year, but will follows these tips next time. Cheers guys! :-)

PS: Sumner7 has a very bad drinking problem (and he isn't even 18 yet!), anyone can help him?!

Regards,


I too once had a drinking problem, but now I can get hold of Alcohol whenever I want :-)
Title: Re: Top hangover cures?
Post by: Speelgoedmannetje on January 04, 2005, 02:12:54 PM
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CU_AMiGA wrote:
PS: Sumner7 has a very bad drinking problem (and he isn't even 18 yet!), anyone can help him?!

Regards,
I could help him (with the use of a strait jacket)
but seriously, on that point, only he can help himself (he should become concious that he has a very big problem).
Title: Re: Top hangover cures?
Post by: CU_AMiGA on January 04, 2005, 02:56:16 PM
Well, he has plenty of booze he smuggled from the New Year party into his house (which his parents wouldn't approve). He sees it as a blessing in disguise.

Regards,
 
Title: Re: Top hangover cures?
Post by: sumner7 on January 05, 2005, 02:32:37 PM
Be quiet CU_AMiGA! You took home 10 bottles of Stella, so you can talk!

And BTW, I do NOT have a very big problem. I have not drunk anything since Saturday.
Title: Re: Top hangover cures?
Post by: Karlos on January 05, 2005, 04:01:44 PM
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KennyR wrote:
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Cymric wrote:
Since you are a chemist, consider the following: ethanol is readily transformed into ethanal, which is the nasty chemical your body doesn't respond well to---and also causes hangover symptoms. (I was taught however that dehydration is the main cause of heangovers.) Ethanal is catalytically broken down by means of a copper-containing peptide. Imagine what would happen if you fed a heavy drinker a small dose of a very strongly copper-complexing compound, say EDTA or a derivative.


I know EDTA is already used in medicine to complex with metals, in coronary patients at least, so it could work in theory. Supposing it actually did work and it inhibited the action of the enzyme responsible for oxidising ethanol. The overall effect on the body from ethanol then would be much the same as for other members of the primary alcohol family, which we have no enzymes to protect against: that is, blindness, CNS damage, liver scarring, and probable death. Dying is one way to cure a hangover I suppose... ;)


I once saw tetrasodium EDTA as an additive in white bread...

Conspiracy? :lol:
Title: Re: Top hangover cures?
Post by: Wilse on January 05, 2005, 07:30:15 PM
@Star69:

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1. Burnt toast - doesn't taste very nice, but does the job if you can get it down.


I actually like burnt toast with plenty of butter and a cup of tea.
Not when I'm hungover though.

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2. IRN BRU - a good Scottish (non-alcoholic) drink.


Absolutely. I'm drinking it now. If I've had a drunken night and gone to sleep without remembering
to drink water, nothing in the world cures the drooth like the Bru. :-D

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3. A greasy fry-up.


Yup - with a nice cup of tea. After the Irn Bru starter.
And make sure you have a tottie scone on the plate - mmmm.

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4. If it's really bad, more beer - sleep the rest of the day :)


I used to have a favourite Sunday pastime of getting the papers and going to my local for two pints of 80%.
After two pints I'd digested a fair bit of news and felt much better.

Don't do that very often these days.

Happy New Year! :pint:
Title: Re: Top hangover cures?
Post by: Speelgoedmannetje on January 05, 2005, 08:06:12 PM
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Wilse wrote:
Happy New Year! :pint:
Ah yes, to you too :pint:


I've been to Scotland, and enjoyed it very much (especially the both awesome castles and the scenery).

but saying the pubs are a dissappointment is really an understatement.... I mean, it was hard to find a pub wich wasn't lit by TL tubes, and being decorated with a big telly tuned on some lousy music channel :-(
Title: Re: Top hangover cures?
Post by: Wilse on January 06, 2005, 09:30:53 PM
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but saying the pubs are a dissappointment is really an understatement.... I mean, it was hard to find a pub wich wasn't lit by TL tubes, and being decorated with a big telly tuned on some lousy music channel


You should have told me you were coming.

What type of pubs do you like?
Title: Re: Top hangover cures?
Post by: KennyR on January 06, 2005, 11:56:55 PM
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speelgoedmannetje wrote:
but saying the pubs are a dissappointment is really an understatement.... I mean, it was hard to find a pub wich wasn't lit by TL tubes, and being decorated with a big telly tuned on some lousy music channel


Student pubs are like that. Were you in Glasgow, or Edinburgh? Sounds like Cowcaddens.

(Find a nice pub with a big picture of King Billy crossing the Boyne behind the bar, I'm sure you'll be welcomed. ;-) )
Title: Re: Top hangover cures?
Post by: Wilse on January 07, 2005, 05:02:12 PM
@Kenny:

:lol:
Title: Re: Top hangover cures?
Post by: Speelgoedmannetje on January 08, 2005, 08:09:39 PM
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Wilse wrote:
You should have told me you were coming.
I know, I was going for a few days, going to my sis (who lives there now)

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What type of pubs do you like?
cozy, easy, where you can talk nice with a couple of friends, and can drink all kinda special beers (I like to try :-)).
Btw, I just love ale, especially McEwans.
Title: Re: Top hangover cures?
Post by: Speelgoedmannetje on January 08, 2005, 08:12:07 PM
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KennyR wrote:
Student pubs are like that. Were you in Glasgow, or Edinburgh? Sounds like Cowcaddens.

I was in Aberdeen, and for one day in Edinburgh. But almost all pubs were that way.
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(Find a nice pub with a big picture of King Billy crossing the Boyne behind the bar, I'm sure you'll be welcomed. ;-) )
ehm, you might explain that :nervous:
Title: Re: Top hangover cures?
Post by: Wilse on January 08, 2005, 10:36:18 PM
@Eyso:

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cozy, easy, where you can talk nice with a couple of friends, and can drink all kinda special beers (I like to try ).
Btw, I just love ale, especially McEwans.


Hey - a man after my own heart; McEwan's 80% shilling is my favourite beer in the world.

Let me know next time you're coming over - I know just the place. :pint:
Title: Re: Top hangover cures?
Post by: Abou27 on January 08, 2005, 11:55:41 PM
I find a couple of pints of "Belhaven Best" in 'Droothy Neebours"(sp)/Edinburgh hard to beat.  McEwans 80 is surprisingly good.  If one has experienced McEwans lager, then its enjoyability (the 80 shilling) is miraculous!:-)
Title: Re: Top hangover cures?
Post by: Speelgoedmannetje on January 09, 2005, 12:31:09 AM
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Wilse wrote:

Let me know next time you're coming over - I know just the place. :pint:
next time I'm going on my own and I'll let you know :-) :pint:

ahem, well, let me know if you come over here in nl, you're welcome :pint:
Title: Re: Top hangover cures?
Post by: Wilse on January 09, 2005, 01:10:07 AM
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Abou27 wrote:
I find a couple of pints of "Belhaven Best" in 'Droothy Neebours"(sp)/Edinburgh hard to beat.


Ah, the Best! Another one of my favourite beers.
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McEwans 80 is surprisingly good.  If one has experienced McEwans lager,


.....probably the worst lager in the world...
Title: Re: Top hangover cures?
Post by: Wilse on January 09, 2005, 01:18:51 AM
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Speelgoedmannetje wrote:

next time I'm going on my own and I'll let you know :-) :pint:

ahem, well, let me know if you come over here in nl, you're welcome :pint:


Will do. I've been over about once a yearfor the lastfive or so. I was in Amsterdam and Alkmaar for five days in December. Hopefully be back later in the year. :pint: