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Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga Software Issues and Discussion => Topic started by: ikir on December 22, 2004, 09:11:35 PM
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Finally also OS4 can have MPlayer, the well known program, already ported times ago to MorphOS.
Exactly today someone said that it won't happen... :-D
http://www.amigasoft.net/misc/mplayer.jpg
http://amigaworld.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=9087&forum=14&3
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of course it's possible! :-D
where there is a will, there is a way!
:banana:
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It only misses overlay.
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Nice!
Let the apps roll in ! :-P
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yes. it is possible.. I have no time to post in all amigans forums.. fortunately there are many other persons that posts for me :-P :-D
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About time, that source has already been about 98% ported for AmigaOS for more than a year (most of the work was done by the skilled Nicolas DET), and all that's been needed is some switches to CGX5 to P96 calls.
Edited by Admin: Personal Attack, Trolling
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Ready to SPAM for you mate! :-P
@KennyR
It doesn't matter what happens, you will find a way to see it negative :-) Congratulations :-D
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:lol:
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Kenny,
This is Amiga.org, not "OS4sucks.org". While we encourage people to share their opinions, yours are continually abrasive. If you continue to exhibit such an unfriendly and unhealthy attitude towards both the Amiga and your fellow site members, we will, in fact, ask you to head back to morphzone where you'll obviously feel more comfortable.
Wayne
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@kenny
for crist sakes grow up and get a life !!!!!
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@wayne
This is Amiga.org, not "OS4sucks.org".
I don't see KennyR saying "OS4 sucks". Indeed this is amiga.org.
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Kenny (if you aren't Kenny judging by the avatar and IRC alliances) has a habit of making comments which are -- to put it nicely -- abrasive. I'm just running out of rope to hand him, and others who use this site specifically to put down whatever they don't agree with while offering no constructive value.
It's called "trolling by persistent negativity" and it's simply not welcome here any more. You can be positive and you can support whichever solution you happen to like. I don't care at all. What I do dislike and will start squashing is the tendency to post crap -- like Kenny's post -- which serves no purpose but to put something down.
Whether or not the AmigaOne and AmigaOS (or MorphOS or the Pegasos for that matter) actually survive and prosper is irrelevant right now.
This is not slashdot. This is not moobunny. We're all here on this site (ostensibly) because we enjoy (or have enjoyed in the past) using the Amiga computer platform. Trying to push people away from the hobby they enjoy simply because you're ill-mannered is destructive to ANY potential platform which draws on the Amiga's history and tries to present us with a future path.
I swear to Almighty God, Ben and Allan could come here and say "we're giving everyone a free AmigaOne machine with AmigaOS for putting up with all the delays, all you need to do is pay postage" and there are some people who would still {bleep} about it. Just to be perfectly fair, the exact same could be said if Bill Buck showed up and gave us all Pegasos machines. Some people would still {bleep} about it.
All the negativity is unappreciated, and unacceptable. If you want to remain negative, go to Moobunny, Morphzone, or slashdot. Simple. To the point. Undebatable.
Wayne
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@KennyR
:-?
Well, their OS is not an emulator of AOS3.1 unlike ...
@everybody else
Merry christmas !
welll, ok ok, to U too KennyR.
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KennyR: {edit by admin : personal insult}
Why not just ignore the os4 news, if you hate it all that much?? I personally dont care a crap about mos, so i just ignore it instead of flaming.
I for one am happy about mplayer.
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Good news mplayer is a much needed program for os 4. :-)
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New screenshot released:
http://www.amigasoft.net/misc/mplayer1.jpg
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ikir wrote:
New screenshot released:
http://www.amigasoft.net/misc/mplayer1.jpg (http://www.amigasoft.net/misc/mplayer1.jpg)
yeah! a half nakid man! FINALLY!
oh, right, this is about Mplayer. very good! :lol:
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@cecilia
Ah ah ah :-D
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Wait, did i see MPlayer for MorphOS on the newly added picture or are my eyes gone bad? :-D
The 1st picture says: MPlayer for AmigaOS though! Weird...
If this is work being ported directly from the source of mplayer, i could understand (forgetting to replace the title). If it's used with MOSEmu, then it's not a native OS4 version.
So if it's a native OS4 version, and the 1st picture shows AmigaOS in title, but the later one says MorphOS, then i think that's suspicious... :-(
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How the heck could my comment be modded as a personal insult?? all i was saying was that his behaviour was childish. Is amazing that you mods dont moderate him, when he keeps bashing os4 users and developers for no reason. This moderation is very unfair i think... it is okay for someone to call a whole group of people stupid, morons and so on for using a platform/OS of their choice, but simply stating your opinion about this behaviour, that is a personal insult?
I often felt insulted by certain comments this person made.
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@CaptainHIT
It is OS4 PPC native, no emulation in any way. Read the thread on AW.net. It is started on the MOS source, it is easy to port it than the Linux version :-)
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Feel free to PM an admin with an site concerns or site violations.
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oh, oh! (http://www.gti18t.com/images/forums/thread-ugly.gif) :-o
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CaptainHIT:
I hope that was just some paranoia left over from the old days ;) I can ensure you mplayer is alive and kicking on AmigaOS 4 as a native application. It's not 100% done but only some tinkering left, if any. Running it under MOSemu which basically was just a small for-fun project never meant to be taken seriously was never an option.
For background on the mplayer port, I believe Andrea recently, a week or so ago started looking at the sources. He asked some dev questions that sounded familiar and indeed he was working on mplayer, something I also did some days last summer. I'm not too patient though, so I couldn't be bothered translating the CGFXv5 functionality to P96, so I just let it go and did other stuff (most should be on os4depot)
Anyway, Andrea got what I had done so that he didn't have to go thru the same hurdles, although there weren't that many that I can remember though. He, unlike me, has the stamina of hundred men and never gives up even if everything seems to be working against him so he has made some progress the last week, and I wouldn't be surprised if he's laying a final touch on the work right now.
As for the Mplayer for AmigaOS text, the reason could be this:
When I ported it I run some perl scripts thru the whole thing replacing MorphOS related symbols, defines and similar with AmigaOS related ones. That included text like "Mplayer for MorphOS". Andrea didn't do this approach but injected what he hadn't done from my port, AFAIK, hence you might have got a switch if he switched between mine and his/the original files, which he probably did while debugging and exploring the program ;)
As for why I used MOS source, 1) I was asked to port it and was handed that source 2) There's no point doing the same work twice, EXCEPT some times it's faster to do ports yourself than fix broken code or brutal code changes (I prefer to add as little changes as possible and send back changes to maintatiners)
3) It's GPL dammit, hehe, even though I'm not a big fan of the license one should take advantage of one of its pros; sharing and helping the software itself survive in a best possible manner (ie existing on more platforms)
Hope that was a bit clarifying ;) Somebody will of course find something to criticize negatively, hehe, but hey it's the Festivus season ;)
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yeah! a half nakid man! FINALLY!
oh, right, this is about Mplayer. very good! :lol:
@cecilia
No, you are correct, cecilia. MPlayer is an abbreviation of ManPlayer. You can choose which kind of man you prefer and make him strip his clothes off a piece at a time :-D :lol:
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And I suppose you just happened upon this nakid man player application by pure accident... right?
:P
Brian
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There is an old addage which says "you can please some of the people, some of the time, but you cannot please all of the people all the time". Considering the moronic rivalry between "red" and "blue" in what sadly remains of the Amiga community, the chances of pleasing anyone are -- in fact -- substantially diminished.
You are correct. I should have moderated his original post. It was out of line, but to be honest considering the time constraints I was working in, I simply forgot to make adjustments to Kenny's original post. My apologies.
That does not forgive however, the fact that you responded by calling him childish. True or not, your response was just as bad as his original post in this thread. It's this type of situation replying simply to call someone childish irritates the ongoing rivalries and stupidity between "camps" while even the concept of dividing a smoldering community into "camps" is moronic to begin with.
The point of my post to Kenny is that it's fine to support whatever you want to support, but that doesn't give you the right to continually trash the "other" platform. You were right in your reply to state unequivocably that "if you don't like X, simply ignore it", because there was no reason for either Kenny's post, *or* (with respect) yours.
It's obvious that MorphOS users cannot exist in the same place as AmigaOS users and vice-versa. As such, my recommendation is that everyone involved grow up a bit and leave everyone alone unless you have something constructive to say. If you're not constructive, there's no reason to say it other than to make yourself feel superior, and that's a large part of the problems in the Amiga community.
The Mother's Rule applies here.
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CD32Freak wrote:
yeah! a half nakid man! FINALLY!
oh, right, this is about Mplayer. very good! :lol:
@cecilia
No, you are correct, cecilia. MPlayer is an abbreviation of ManPlayer. You can choose which kind of man you prefer and make him strip his clothes off a piece at a time :-D :lol:
Now THAT is one great piece of software. :banana:
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It's obvious that MorphOS users cannot exist in the same place as AmigaOS users and vice-versa.
Actually, I *do* think that MorphOS and AmigaOS users can co-exist. There are only really two problems: People like KennyR (which also exist on the red side) which cannot keep their mouth shut on anything positive (or negative) that comes up from the "opposite" site, and people like myself that have a hard time ignoring people like him and see the need to reply to that.
In this thread, I have kept myself at bay (which cannot be said about Kenny I'm afraid).
So the real solution is, indeed, for the KennyR's to shut up and not put out flamebait, and for the Rogue's to not swallow it.
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I think that MPlayer for OS4 is good news. Furthermore, I think that any future cross software development be it MOS to OS4 or OS4 to MOS is good news for both sides.
This is just one of the ways that both sides can actually find common ground on.
Brian
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@Rogue
Ah, I see you got what I tried to tell you on aw.net several months ago :-D
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...it should be only a news post.. however now i'm working on 1.0pre4 MOS sources. It is really simply to translate MOS code on OS4 code. This version now show more formats than 0.91 but now it is more instable.
Watch out! It has only ONE DAY so i'm working on it to try to release a software that works. IT IS NO EMULATION. IT IS 100% code based on works of GENESI/NICOMAN/(The new programmer of 1.0pre4 for mos)/ME and recompiled using GCC
Bye