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The "Not Quite Amiga but still computer related category" => Amiga Emulation => Topic started by: Einstein on December 20, 2004, 02:53:46 PM

Title: Save game in Monkey Island 1 ...
Post by: Einstein on December 20, 2004, 02:53:46 PM
How did one save a game in Monkey Island 1 (adf)? please help, anyone knows ?
Title: Re: Save game in Monkey Island 1 ...
Post by: bloodline on December 20, 2004, 02:54:55 PM
F5 :-)
Title: Re: Save game in Monkey Island 1 ...
Post by: Einstein on December 20, 2004, 03:04:23 PM
I have tried, nothing happens, I've checked the "input" section in "soft" part, and the F1-F9 "input sources" have the corresponding "target (some word here)" as F1-F9, yet nothing happens as I push those buttons !  :-(
Title: Re: Save game in Monkey Island 1 ...
Post by: bloodline on December 20, 2004, 03:12:14 PM
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Einstein wrote:
I have tried, nothing happens, I've checked the "input" section in "soft" part, and the F1-F9 "input sources" have the corresponding "target (some word here)" as F1-F9, yet nothing happens as I push those buttons !  :-(



How odd, download ScummVM and run it in that, that should solve your problems :-)
Title: Re: Save game in Monkey Island 1 ...
Post by: Einstein on December 20, 2004, 03:18:36 PM
What's ScummVM, and exactly what does it do ?
Title: Re: Save game in Monkey Island 1 ...
Post by: The_Power_of_the_Ginger on December 20, 2004, 03:22:38 PM
The first question I can answer, as long as you're playing from WinUAE. Simply 'save your state' by pressing f12 and going to somwhere ('misc', I think), and clicking save state. Then you can save the game at any point.
Title: Re: Save game in Monkey Island 1 ...
Post by: bloodline on December 20, 2004, 03:26:14 PM
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Einstein wrote:
What's ScummVM, and exactly what does it do ?


ScummVM is a new scripting engine that can run the LucasARTS games files.

Copy all the game data from the MI disks to the ScummVM directory and run the game using ScummVM, which has a standard load save interface :-)

You will need SDL installed to run ScummVM!
Title: Re: Save game in Monkey Island 1 ...
Post by: Einstein on December 20, 2004, 03:27:26 PM
Confused am I (perhaps always have been  :-) ), none of the fX buttons desire to work, and what did you mean "going somewhere" ? in the game or what ?
Appreciate your reply !
Title: Re: Save game in Monkey Island 1 ...
Post by: Einstein on December 20, 2004, 03:30:02 PM
(oh no, no further installings please), What's SDL bloodline ? (there's no end to my miseries, is it ?  :-) )
Title: Re: Save game in Monkey Island 1 ...
Post by: bloodline on December 20, 2004, 03:38:23 PM
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Einstein wrote:
(oh no, no further installings please), What's SDL bloodline ? (there's no end to my miseries, is it ?  :-) )


Hmmm...

Well, what are you running on?

If it's Amiga, then as long as you have a Hard drive ScummVM will work... if it's PC then ScummVM is the way to go!
Title: Re: Save game in Monkey Island 1 ...
Post by: Einstein on December 20, 2004, 04:17:10 PM
Ok, I'm running it on a: P4 2,4 GHz with windows XP !
Whats the problem really, I mean if I create a disk image in the WinUAE (in the saveimages dir), then if the f5 would actually work, shouldnt the emu do whatever the code in the game commands it to do, which is to write to the disk (that I created) ? I guess I'll not experience that though since the damn fX wont even respond.

Anyway, so you say I ONLY need ScummVM ? what was that SDL (or something) ?
Title: Re: Save game in Monkey Island 1 ...
Post by: bloodline on December 20, 2004, 04:22:05 PM
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Einstein wrote:
Ok, I'm running it on a: P4 2,4 GHz with windows XP !
Whats the problem really, I mean if I create a disk image in the WinUAE (in the saveimages dir), then if the f5 would actually work, shouldnt the emu do whatever the code in the game commands it to do, which is to write to the disk (that I created) ? I guess I'll not experience that though since the damn fX wont even respond.

Anyway, so you say I ONLY need ScummVM ? what was that SDL (or something) ?


Boot up WinUAE with the PC drives mounted, copy all the files from the MI disks to a directory on your PC hard drive. Close WinUAE.

Then download ScummVM and install it on your PC (SDL will be installed automatically).

Run ScummVM, a requester will pop up asking you to locate the game files... point it to where ever you copied the game data too... then you can run MI in a window on your PC (No disk swapping and super fast loading etc..) :-)
Title: Re: Save game in Monkey Island 1 ...
Post by: Einstein on December 20, 2004, 04:33:16 PM
Ok this is getting clearer, two blurred point remain though:

1. What do you mean "Boot up WinUAE with the PC drives mounted", what PC drives ?

2. Does ScummVM actuallly run on top of UAE or does it have it's own emu ? (unnecessary but interesting to know)
Title: Re: Save game in Monkey Island 1 ...
Post by: Turambar on December 20, 2004, 04:36:48 PM
Are you by any chance using a microsoft multimedia keyboard?
Title: Re: Save game in Monkey Island 1 ...
Post by: Einstein on December 20, 2004, 04:38:06 PM
Logitech actually.
Title: Re: Save game in Monkey Island 1 ...
Post by: bloodline on December 20, 2004, 04:44:41 PM
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Einstein wrote:
Ok this is getting clearer, two blurred point remain though:

1. What do you mean "Boot up WinUAE with the PC drives mounted", what PC drives ?

2. Does ScummVM actuallly run on top of UAE or does it have it's own emu ? (unnecessary but interesting to know)


1. in the HardDrives section tick the "Mount PC drives at startup" option.

2. ScummVM is able to run the Monkey Island game data files without emulation on your PC :-)
Title: Re: Save game in Monkey Island 1 ...
Post by: Einstein on December 20, 2004, 04:49:51 PM
The question that arises then must be: where does WinUAE then fit an all this ? cant ScummVM take care of the adf-images itself ?
Title: Re: Save game in Monkey Island 1 ...
Post by: bloodline on December 20, 2004, 04:52:01 PM
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Einstein wrote:
The question that arises then must be: where does WinUAE then fit an all this ? cant ScummVM take care of the adf-images itself ?


Nope, only WinUAE can read the ADF images. so you need that to get the Monkey Island data from the amiga disk files to the PC drive.
Title: Re: Save game in Monkey Island 1 ...
Post by: Einstein on December 20, 2004, 04:55:19 PM
Ok, finally clarified, with one exception, you said boot WinUAE with PC drives mounted (ticked) in hardfiles section ... hmmm why do I have the feeling that I'm confused again, hehe, not funny though ! :)
Title: Re: Save game in Monkey Island 1 ...
Post by: SamuraiCrow on December 20, 2004, 04:55:53 PM
See the ScummVM website (http://www.scummvm.org/) for some details.  And no I don't think ScummVM can deal with the .ADF files directly.
Title: Re: Save game in Monkey Island 1 ...
Post by: Einstein on December 20, 2004, 05:01:19 PM
Ok, this is perhaps wy most imporatnt question in this topic: will it also run old pc dos (ms-dos) games (like Monkey Island 2) with possible scan-lines, blurred etc of the graphic output ? because running old games (3XX x 2xx) is not a pleasure for the eyes.
Title: Re: Save game in Monkey Island 1 ...
Post by: Einstein on December 20, 2004, 05:16:20 PM
Nevermind the last question, I've got my answer from that page, thanks.
Title: Re: Save game in Monkey Island 1 ...
Post by: bloodline on December 21, 2004, 12:48:16 PM
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Einstein wrote:
Ok, finally clarified, with one exception, you said boot WinUAE with PC drives mounted (ticked) in hardfiles section ... hmmm why do I have the feeling that I'm confused again, hehe, not funny though ! :)


You just need to be able to access the PC hard drive from the Amiga Side of the UAE emulator so that you can get the files from the Amiga disk images to the PC :-)

ScummVM will run all loads of Graphic adventure games, I use it on my PDA and I love it.
Title: Re: Save game in Monkey Island 1 ...
Post by: Einstein on December 23, 2004, 03:21:50 PM
Alright, so I'll have to copy through cli/shell I figure ?
Title: Re: Save game in Monkey Island 1 ...
Post by: bloodline on December 23, 2004, 08:09:52 PM
Or Workbench or Dopus, whatever you prefer to use.
Title: Re: Save game in Monkey Island 1 ...
Post by: Einstein on December 28, 2004, 03:12:56 PM
I must unfortunately say that it didnt work, well I DID pull out the files and placed them in a folder under ScummVM but Scummvm cannot find them, I've tried to start it from CMD with "scummvm --platform=amiga --path=monkey" etc. but I didnt find them, I got the prompt "could not find monkey.000" so I rename some of the files according but got some weird message with a distorted first charcter in CMD, just to let you know I modified the input sources of Fx keys to the NUMPAD keys in WinUAE, so I'm able to load/save now. :)