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The "Not Quite Amiga but still computer related category" => Alternative Operating Systems => Topic started by: Louis Dias on December 02, 2004, 01:19:15 AM
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Hello all.
I'm here to inform you of a website a friend and I have started. We need users. There's not much content on it but it will be forthcoming. One thing I did do was put proper downloadable link to some QuickTime files of Nintendo DS games being played. Nintendo's site has then stream through a tiny 640x480 window. This was you can download it yourself and full-size the window.
Thanks for your support.
http://www.dsbuzz.com
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I've added another downloadable movie and another developer announcement. We need more registered users. Don't be shy people! User submissions are strongly encouraged!
Thanks,
Lou
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more content has been added and a new final look
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a couple more Super Mario DS movies added
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What does this have to do with the contents of THIS site. Its not Amiga related in any way, shape or form?
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well, I did post in the Alternative OS forum so officially, nothing but that should be OK do to this forum being for just that - non-Amiga stuff.
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Nintendo DS is not an OS, nor is computer related (see section title of "Not Quite Amiga but still computer related category"). Perhaps it belongs in the Coffee House/General or somehing.
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@adolescent
Not computer related?
See here:- www.dslinux.org
It has dual ARM CPUS's.
In theory AROS could be ported to it.
A small linux kernel + sdl + E-UAE would make an excellent portable amiga games player.
the list goes on............. ;-)
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@mdma
Not computer related?
See here:- www.dslinux.org
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In theory AROS could be ported to it.
A small linux kernel + sdl + E-UAE would make an excellent portable amiga games player.
DSLinux doesn't exist. Nor does a Linux + SDL + UAE that would fit into 4MB of RAM. In theory lots of things could be ported to it. But, for now there are no homebrew cards, so you'd need an official Nintendo SDK.
It has dual ARM CPUS's.
Which can not be used at the same time. In DS mode the ARM9 is used. In GBA mode, the ARM7 is used. Either way a ~66MHz ARM9 is nothing to get excited about. A modern PDA is much more capable, and has RAM!
All of this doesn't matter because the link was just about a NDS game site.
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Awesome site I got my DS on launch day and
I am amazed with the quality and potential
of this system. I have SM64, Mr.Driller,
AsphaltGT and FeelTheMagic already. Your
site seems to contains a lot of good info
I did not read on other sites. Maybe I'll
write some reviews or contribute some
other way. :)
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Nice site, it's no www.spong.com but it's VERY nice.
Best of luck with it, I love my DS!
BTW, DS does NOT stand for Dog S***! To spite what Sony says!!
lou_dias wrote:
Hello all.
I'm here to inform you of a website a friend and I have started. We need users. There's not much content on it but it will be forthcoming. One thing I did do was put proper downloadable link to some QuickTime files of Nintendo DS games being played. Nintendo's site has then stream through a tiny 640x480 window. This was you can download it yourself and full-size the window.
Thanks for your support.
http://www.dsbuzz.com
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well, I did post in the Alternative OS forum so officially, nothing but that should be OK do to this forum being for just that - non-Amiga stuff.
Game consoles don't really use Operating Systems. Games run in kernel mode and must simply follow a number of strict coding guidlines.
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Moderated by admin : violation of posting guidelines
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Ah, I just realised why I can't understand half of what you just said, and I bet you can't either - you're from Canberra :laughing: Seriously though, the DS is one damn inventive piece of kit, regardless of whether Nintendo is going bankrupt (or 'backrupt'), which they're not, and it's a shame that a company that strives to offer quality and inventive design over conforming to the mainstream is so often the subject of jokes and criticism. (Quite a few parallels between Nintendo and Commodore/Amiga Inc. I think)
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;-) I've seen the Nintendo DS systems on display at my local games shops, and they're quite nice. there really is a lot of potential in them.
:-? I wonder whether four megabytes of RAM are enough to run AmigaDE? That would open a whole lot of gaming potential, to be sure....
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Or we can wait till a Nintendo DS emulator is available, then we won't have to buy the handheld console. :-)
I have only seen a few commercials for the DS, but if you think about it, the same games will be always made, but maybe a few changes at the end...
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please do, realstar. I went out of my way to make the demos there downloadable. Alot of sites just stream them. The site will only improve over time. We update it in out spare time so user support/submissions is STRONGLY encouraged. If there is a feature or suggestion you have, don't be shy.
realstar wrote:
Awesome site I got my DS on launch day and
I am amazed with the quality and potential
of this system. I have SM64, Mr.Driller,
AsphaltGT and FeelTheMagic already. Your
site seems to contains a lot of good info
I did not read on other sites. Maybe I'll
write some reviews or contribute some
other way. :)
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Waccoon wrote:
Game consoles don't really use Operating Systems. Games run in kernel mode and must simply follow a number of strict coding guidlines.
So the CD32 unexpanded doesn't have an OS, just a Kernal? Tell me, isn't an OS just a gui for a kernal, oh and it adds a file system? Without a game card inserted, the DS lets you use PicoChat to communicate with other DS users and since it supports 802.11b, maybe someday it will have a web browser card...
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So the CD32 unexpanded doesn't have an OS, just a Kernal?
Note I said they don't USE the OS, it's not that they don't have one. Most consoles just have a large set of libraries in ROM and don't really have a complete OS structure. It's more like a big collection of drivers, and programmers are expected to use them exactly (as specified by the console manufacturer) instead of assuming the OS will do all the dirty stuff, like handle security and prevent one game from overwriting another game's memory card space.
Most Amiga games go out of their way to disable the OS, too, so I'd say that the CD32 doesn't really *use* AmigaOS, either.
It's easy to get the OS and kernel confused, though, as the Amiga kernel is not terribly modular and there's a lot of functionality overlap.
Tell me, isn't an OS just a gui for a kernal, oh and it adds a file system?
No. Some systems are built that way (like classic Macs), but that isn't what the OS is supposed to do. In fact, there's really no hard line between where ther kernel ends and the OS begins, architectually. Filesystems are normally part of the kernel when dealing with macrokernels, like Linux. You can have a filesystem outside the kernel when using a microkernal, but interface logic can make things a nightmare if you're not careful.
"OS" and "GUI" should not be integrated systems. There's a difference between a "UI" (shell that runs on the OS), and a "GUI" (a specialized kind of shell). Technically, neither is part of the OS unless the OS vendor forces you to use them that way, a la Windows and MacOS.
For a better idea of how each layer of the whole system works -- like the kernel, OS, UI, and GUI -- take a look at a typical Linux system. It's not even fair to call Linux an OS, because it's really just a kernel. GNU is the OS on most Linux systems, and the X Window System is the GUI, which is not integrated into Linux or GNU at all. Actually, even that's not true. XWindows is really just a toolkit for managing the GUI. The GUI itself, and applications built with those GUI libraries, are higher-level systems than XWindows. That's why XWindows is called a graphics server.
We can thank all the proprietary OS vendors for confusing people into thinking that all these layers are integrated and totally dependant on each other. Microsoft tried to tell everyone that the web browser is an OS component, for crying out loud. The web browser itself is an application -- only the Internet Explorer libraries could be considered part of the OS, and only because Explorer.exe requires them.
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that's funny, on every CD32 disk I own, there are drawers that contain Amiga OS command files and usually a Startup-Sequence file. I'm not here to start a pissing match. I'm just here to tell fellow Amigans about my site. If you got offened by that, that's your hangup.
Amigans are famous for arguing over the finer points of boiling water.
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The CD32 is a striped down computer, so it would make sense that it is capable of having an OS. But, that's besides the point. The DS is not Amiga, nor computer related. This post is off topic no matter how you try to argue it.
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adolescent wrote:
@mdma
Not computer related?
See here:- www.dslinux.org
...
In theory AROS could be ported to it.
A small linux kernel + sdl + E-UAE would make an excellent portable amiga games player.
DSLinux doesn't exist. Nor does a Linux + SDL + UAE that would fit into 4MB of RAM. In theory lots of things could be ported to it. But, for now there are no homebrew cards, so you'd need an official Nintendo SDK.
It has dual ARM CPUS's.
Which can not be used at the same time. In DS mode the ARM9 is used. In GBA mode, the ARM7 is used. Either way a ~66MHz ARM9 is nothing to get excited about. A modern PDA is much more capable, and has RAM!
All of this doesn't matter because the link was just about a NDS game site.
Just to be pedantic..........
7MHz CISC 68000 CPU 512KB RAM AmigaOS 2.0
66MHz RISC ARM9 CPU 4096KB RAM AROS
You choose! ;-)
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mdma wrote:
Just to be pedantic..........
7MHz CISC 68000 CPU 512KB RAM AmigaOS 2.0
66MHz RISC ARM9 CPU 4096KB RAM AROS
You choose! ;-)
I'd choose the AmigaOS 2.0 because it can play games. (On a game system this is kind of important. :-))
If AROS could be ported then that would be great. But, 4M of RAM isn't going to do much still. I would expect a port to the GP32 first since it has freely available SDKs. (And, although it's ARM9 is an older variant, it's adjustable clock can reach well over 133MHz)
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mdma wrote:
Just to be pedantic..........
7MHz CISC 68000 CPU 512KB RAM AmigaOS 2.0
66MHz RISC ARM9 CPU 4096KB RAM AROS
You choose! ;-)
I choose.....
500Mhz Via C3 CPU 1024000KB RAM AROS and WB3.1 (NanoITX)
:lol:
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adolescent wrote:
The CD32 is a striped down computer, so it would make sense that it is capable of having an OS. But, that's besides the point. The DS is not Amiga, nor computer related. This post is off topic no matter how you try to argue it.
Actually if you recall Amiga's history, the Amiga is a game machine that they gave a keyboard and OS to.
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Website update!
I got a couple new demos and some links to articles about PSP problems.
http://www.dsbuzz.com
To those who visit the site: Thanks for your support!
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lou_dias wrote:
adolescent wrote:
The CD32 is a striped down computer, so it would make sense that it is capable of having an OS. But, that's besides the point. The DS is not Amiga, nor computer related. This post is off topic no matter how you try to argue it.
Actually if you recall Amiga's history, the Amiga is a game machine that they gave a keyboard and OS to.
Very true.
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mdma wrote:
Very true.
Thank you for your support Mr. Ecstasy! lol
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UPDATE!
http://www.dsbuzz.com now has forums!
If interested please register as a user and help make it as great a site as this one.