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Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga Software Issues and Discussion => Topic started by: on February 17, 2003, 09:34:24 AM
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The title says it all, really.
All the best
Sam
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No, and probably never will be.
What made you think so?
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I'd like to get MiamiDX registered
Is it still possible ?
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No, it isn't possible to register. :-( I tried several times over a year ago.. Failed every time. The author no longer replies to email enquiries either.
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Last i heard Holger was also having problems with his A3000 and thats the reasons the register database is down! besides he was sick of the whole Amiga market and i doubt he wants to give something back to it! then again someone could offer him a nice sum and buy his A3000 and whats on the HD :-).
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I think that's really sucky behaviour for a software vendor. SASG don't respond to sales orders now either, so I'm stuck with an evaluation copy of MagicCX :(
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mikeymike wrote:
I think that's really sucky behaviour for a software vendor.
I think in Miami/MiamiDX you haveto blame H&P for F*** things up. I have no proof (was not there) but what I understand there WAS supposed to be Full version of Miami on OS3.X upgrades. but apparently they let him down and after that Kruse stopped working with Amigas alltogether. (similar to Bill Hawes'es Arexx and many other promicing developers).
And if it had stopped with H&P.. but no.. :-(
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For promising coders within the Amiga Community that was screwed over by Hack&Patch, don't forget Bernd's name on the list. It will be a good day when H&P leaves the Amiga community. Then we maybe able to get a proper body count of developers killed off by H&P.
Boycott all H&P products!
Dammy
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its kinda weird really, as its abandonware , and its impossible to find/contact holger.
and there is like (ATLEAST) 300 people out there who wants to register miamidX still, i think alot of the people out there still share the same opinion as me, miamiDX should be abandonware and free by now, its gone 3 years since we heard anything, and its still the best tcp/stack around (atleast of the released ones).
someone should do some more research, to just make an example, if this had been on PC or mac then this would have been rated as abandonware 2 years ago.
cheers
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I think this is a sad behaviour.
If you no longer intend to support your software and make money from it, you might as well release it for free.
If you don't want to open source it that's fine put at least put a keyfile up on your website if you don't accept any more registrations!
SASG doesn't even have a text on their home page announcing that registrations won't be accepted!
I have also tried to contact both Holger Kruse and Stefan Stuntz/SASG several times, asking about registrations etc. I haven't recieved any answers.
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Its really annoying when it happens like with Miami/Mui etc but when you stop and think about it after all its the software authors programm/game/whatever and unless it specialy says something in the license he is free to do wtf he wants to do and end it or kill it when he see fit even if its bad for "potential" customers! the regged customers already have theyre versions only crapy thing for them is the perhaps promised updates if there was any.
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Another thing that causes authors to abandon the Amiga so suddenly is piracy. No pointing any elbows.
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@dammy
I agree, H&P are just a nasty rash on the name Amiga,
Do those guys actually do anything for the Amiga? apart from shafting developers.
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About MUI: Contact an active developer that works within MUI. For instance, Vapor. To my understanding Stefan Stuntz is still active in the community--just low keyed.
@Miami: There isn't much I can say about that. The last I heard of Holger was that he no longer worked for Rebol--and that was the end of the subject :-/
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See, what it is is I am in the process of resurrecting my Amiga and will have a bash at the internet. Thing is, the last time I had a go at the internet with my Amigas the TCP/IP program I used for access wouldn't work with my Freeserve account, the thing just kept crashing - it's the one that came with Netconnect 3. So, I went back to using Miami, a registered copy, but, whenever I entered the registration key into Miami, the damn thing also crashed. Without the key, in demo mode, it works fine but, as you will all know, the demo mode only lasts for half an hour before disconnecting and this, after a while, becomes a little annoying. Anyway, I had a look at the Aminet site to see if Miami was still posted up there and had a look at the readme, without actually downloading the Miami program. As there was nothing in the readme to indicate that the version on Aminet was/is/isn't/was not a demo I was just wondering. Anyway, as the replies indicate, obviously Miami isn't open source so the next question is - Is there an open source TCP/IP program hanging around somewhere that I could use in preference to my Miami program ?
All the best
Sam
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Only open source one is AmiTCP! as soon as Roadshow is out miami will be fastly ditched and be forgotten but untill those days AmiTCP is the only way.
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If you want to buy MiamiDX but the author does not want your money then bollox to him and download a keyfile.
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@4play
Is AmiTCP open source?
Where can I find out more about this?
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The source for AmiTCP 3.0b2 has been available for ages.
ftp://ftp.geekgadgets.org/pub/geekgadgets/amiga/m68k/alpha/amitcp/
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paul_gadd: i dont know about you but i have developed for amiga since 1988. and i have bought every single thing i loved and used, i still do...and i dont waste money on pc and such like many others do....patriotism on the amiga is good :)
i would hope alot more people follow up on that and buy/reg whatever they use, but the state of amiga is more or less like any small market is, maybe we can fix that?
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removed for piracy potential
Posting Guidlines (http://www.amiga.org/forums/showthread.php?t=1174)
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@lempkee
i would hope alot more people follow up on that and buy/reg whatever they use, but the state of amiga is more or less like any small market is, maybe we can fix that?
Many people are ready to purchase software but the authors just dont care anymore.
I remember having the same crap with the author of "Backbone", sent him emails and even sent a letter by snail mail but got no reply so i just eventually found a full version floating around the net.
Made a James Bond game with backbone, sent it to Amiga Format and it got praised but they rejected it twice because it contained copyrighted images and sounds from the films, total joke.
I agree with you about people and registering software but if the users cant register due to the authors then some will download pirate versions and personally i dont blame them.
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Contributions by H&P? How about OS3.9? Boing Bags?
AmigaWriter?
I agree that they have done horrific things, but not made a sizable contribution to the Amiga? No, I can't go that far.
As for Holger, this months latest poster boy for spit on Amiga.com, didn't he get the award for greatest contribution to the Amiga a few years back at WoA?
Boy do we quickly turn on our own.
Maybe that explains why the market is so small?
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Marky_D_Sahd mentioned:
...As for Holger, this months latest poster boy for spit on Amiga.com, didn't he get the award for greatest contribution to the Amiga a few years back at WoA?
:-) Yep! It was mentioned in an issue of Amiga Format magazine afterward, along with a photo. He had been given the first AAA award, for outstanding contribution to the Amiga community. Miami did more to get amigans online than any other product.
:-( It's just a shame that he no longer involves himself in the community.
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hi
name is bj-bill.
just was woundering if you could let me have a copy of the orignal install software and workbench etc. from your amiga 4000, i have an 4000 i got from a friend but he had already thrown the manual and software away....
sny help??
bj-bill
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would have been rated as abandonware 2 years ago
Abandonware is certainly something supernatural, because if the party with rights to a piece of software decides to give it out for free (after selling licenses), it is not abandoning but a re-release - a bittersweet but not very rare event. And I don't think those are synonymous. So with all due respect, Miami's author may deny he ever wrote the thing or what ever else anyone would hold against him, but an assumption that the terms of use would suddenly be void has no basis on this planet. Suit yourselves..
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Another thought. Holger was accused constantly of putting spy ware into Miami that would tell him who had pirated. No proof was ever supplied by I recall Digital Corruption posted several supposed "fixes" for this supposed "spyware". If this was true then I can't imagine he would incriminate himself by open sourcing it. Unless he wanted to edit out that code.
It was kind of funny though. When ever the Miami Mailing lists went quiet all you had to do was send an email to it accusing Holger of spyware making and the list went nutz!!! LOL :-D
While every one is playing the blame game, am I allowed to blame Commodore at this late stage of things for the Amiga failing? :-D
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@ronybeck
The Miami backdoor was true and proved to sent out details of the user to a certain IP address but DC removed the IP address and replaced it with the localhost one (127.0.0.1).
To test it just download a version DC claimed to have a backdoor and get old pirate keyfiles and run it under UAE and tell windows/mac/linux firewall to log all activity and you will be see it connect to somewhere when Miami goes online (untick use bsd).