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...is what was perscribed for me to help ease a...errr...digestive problem I have, all I can say is that it would have to be one of the worst things I have ever tasted, even when mixed with a huge glass of orange and mango juice you can still taste it...:shudder: Whats even scarier is that on the bottle, they've printed "New and improved flavour", I doubt it could be any worse :vomit:
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Aloe Vera has some wonderful properties and is used quite a lot nowadays and for different stuff not only digestive health.
Drinking it has to be worst way of using it I will concur. :shocked:
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Would you say it is like swigging a bottle of liquid earwax? :-P
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Aloe Vera has some wonderful properties and is used quite a lot nowadays and for different stuff not only digestive health.
Yes I know, it is an excellent moisturiser and it can be used to treat burns among many other things. It is truely a wonder plant...still taste crap though :-P
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Would you say it is like swigging a bottle of liquid earwax?
Having never tasted earwax, I wouldn't know, however, just to answer your question, I'll be sure to stick my finger in my ear and have a taste...
edit...nope, Aloe Vera juice tastes far worse :-P
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There's a vitamin supplement I take called Mulitbionta - its multivitamins, with those probiotic thingies.
It has layers to protect them during digestion.
Apparently all those probiotic yoghurt drinks don't work, as even if they do contain the right kind of bacteria, it gets destroyed by the digestive system before it reaches the gut, and are a multimillion pound con...
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I've tried Papaya (in fresh, dried and in tablet form) to ease disgestion and that seems to work quite well.
Have you spoken to your doctor about your digestve issues? Maybe you have a sensitivity to certain foods?
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X-ray wrote:
Would you say it is like swigging a bottle of liquid earwax? :-P
Or maybe chewing a sock?
/runs and hides
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problem with digestion?
drink coffee, very strong coffee
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eh?
coffee, especially very strong coffee, gives me terrible guts!
perhaps that's just me tho'....
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...is what was perscribed for me to help ease a...errr...digestive problem
A digestive problem? Constipation???? I used to suffer from this, and it caused no end of problems - poor circulation in my legs being the most serious one (because all of the hardened s**t presses against arteries). Anyway, the best way to deal with this is to eat lots of fruit. More fibre is good too - so nuts, beans, wholemeal bread, beer... anything that makes you fart basically.
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Cyberus wrote:
eh?
coffee, especially very strong coffee, gives me terrible guts!
perhaps that's just me tho'....
soft healers make stinking wounds...
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smithy wrote:
... anything that makes you fart basically.
Veggie mince. Tried, tested and proven!
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Perhaps if we were clear on exactly what we were discussing....
:lol:
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I mean, coffee isn't a soft healer
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I know you will not like this one, but if you fast an entire day while drinking a quart of prune juice and a gallon of distilled water to flush out your system, you will probably feel better.
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X-ray wrote:
Would you say it is like swigging a bottle of liquid earwax? :-P
Did someone just watch The Simpsons on SkyOne yesterday? :-P
To the uninitiated: Marge was in a baking competition and some of the other contestants were sabotaging her attempt so she got her own back by putting drops of ear wax on the other contestants food :-D
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@ Vince
No, I don't have Sky and I never saw that episode. I just remember that as a kid I once tasted it by accident, and I almost puked. Since then I do not put my fingers in my mouth (probably a wise move considering I work in a hospital where you have to assume that your hands are dirty unless gloved or scrubbed).
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Yeah Earwax isn't a great taste, but there are worse :-/
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bloodline wrote:
Yeah Earwax isn't a great taste, but there are worse :-/
:roflmao: eeeeeew yuck! :lol:
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X-ray wrote:
No, I don't have Sky and I never saw that episode. I just remember that as a kid I once tasted it by accident, and I almost puked.
But cats love it!
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Hi
Perhaps you can ask for Aloe Vera Tablet or Capsules.
Almost every natural based medicine can be turned into capsule/tablets, even Wine.
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@all
I suffer from IBS (Irritable Bowel Syndrome), if I ingest somthing that irritates my bowel the muscles begin contracting as the food passes through, it is quite painful. Last week I must have really upset it, because I spent the whole week feeling rather unwell, since I've been downing the Aloe Vera juice, I've felt a whole heap better.
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I must try some of that, I have a mildish form of IBS.
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I went through a period of having dodgy guts, and having recently read an article about modern bread manufacture methods, and how they basically suck, I tried a week without bread, believe it or not (not easy to do actually) and I'm feeling a lot better for it and have been off bread ever since. Hard to believe but this faux diagnosis I applied has seemed to have worked.
Of course, I'm no health expert, but it may be worth trying to eliminate certain things from your diet. I have a friend who's a nutritionist, and he says that mild intolerances to, e.g. gluten, are quite common.
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*scratches head*
I don't have any digestive problems. I don't even get indigestion or heartburn. And that's not because I eat lots of roughage, or special fibre, or probiotic drinks, or aloe vera...because I don't.
But I eat meals that are so spicy that most of you wouldn't be able to take a spoonful without finding it hard to breathe (well, except Karlos :D). Maybe that's the secret. :)
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I must try some of that, I have a mildish form of IBS.
Thats what catagory I normally fall under, I eat something my bowel doesn't like, my guts rumble, I feel a bit off colour and I get terrible flatulence (great for Dutch Ovens), then a few hours later its over. However, this bout was different, it just wouldn't break, even after a 24 hour fast.
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KennyR wrote:
But I eat meals that are so spicy that most of you wouldn't be able to take a spoonful without finding it hard to breathe (well, except Karlos :D). Maybe that's the secret. :)
I think maybe the first time you fully eat something insanely hot, it simply shorts out the nerve endings that relay any sensations from the ailementary canal.
After that you can eat cement and be fine :lol:
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KennyR wrote:
*scratches head*
I don't have any digestive problems. I don't even get indigestion or heartburn. And that's not because I eat lots of roughage, or special fibre, or probiotic drinks, or aloe vera...because I don't.
But I eat meals that are so spicy that most of you wouldn't be able to take a spoonful without finding it hard to breathe (well, except Karlos :D). Maybe that's the secret. :)
Sounds like your digestive system suffers a form of Shell Shock :lol:
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Cyberus wrote:
I went through a period of having dodgy guts, and having recently read an article about modern bread manufacture methods, and how they basically suck, I tried a week without bread, believe it or not (not easy to do actually) and I'm feeling a lot better for it and have been off bread ever since. Hard to believe but this faux diagnosis I applied has seemed to have worked.
Of course, I'm no health expert, but it may be worth trying to eliminate certain things from your diet. I have a friend who's a nutritionist, and he says that mild intolerances to, e.g. gluten, are quite common.
Was that refering only to mass produced bread, ie. SunnyCrust etc., or did it include bread from the local bakery?
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Cyberus wrote:
I have a friend who's a nutritionist, and he says that mild intolerances to, e.g. gluten, are quite common.
I have heard that gluten intolerance is quite common but very rarely diagnosed. I have a family member who suffered from it for years - called celiac disease I think - and just recently was diagnosed. She changed her diet and some very unpleasant symptoms disappeared.
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@ Kenny and Karlos
Don't you guys get a terrible 'ring sting' from all that hot food?
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The old pacific rim? Ring of fire?
Sometimes - but to be honest I find it usually isn't caused by things high in chilli content :-/
It's also really strange that I find some things hot that other people don't and yet basic highly spiced foods don't bother me in the least. Furthermore, I seem to be able to enjoy subtle tastes which tends to dispell the idea that spice abuse kills the tongue ;-)
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I tend to eat curry at least once a week - Madras, Dhansak and Pathia and to a lesser extend Vindaloo are my favourites. Phaal is all very well, but of you like accompaniaments with your main dish (I like Sag Bhajji or Chana dishes), it completely overpowers the taste.
The one that always seems to give me serious 'ring sting' is Jalfrezi. That's the strange thing, on the whole I can eat red hot curries, and it doesn't touch me.
The thing that would always do me in would be, for example, a nasty prepackaged sandwich - bizarre.
edit: which led to me believe it was maybe bread that was causing it.
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bjjones37 wrote:
I have heard that gluten intolerance is quite common but very rarely diagnosed. I have a family member who suffered from it for years - called celiac disease I think - and just recently was diagnosed. She changed her diet and some very unpleasant symptoms disappeared.
My twin sister was diagnosed with Coeliac when she was 10 (I think). I was taken in for tests at the same time (when the only way to tell was a tube down the throat) but I was clear.
I've since been tested for Coeliac and Diabetes (along with 4 other things that I can't remember now, but possibly a white blood count and thyroid) when I started getting IBS a few years back, and they all showed nothing. Pity that. I was hoping something would be abnormal, that way it's easier to solve. But nothing showing up (even after another tube down the choker) is just irritating (extremely bad pun intended).
4 years later and nothing's worked.
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For those who want to know more: Coeliac Society (http://www.coeliac.co.uk/) (flash required unfortunately)
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Well, what the article (in a Guardian supplement about 6-8 weeks ago IIRC) basically said was, and the facts are already a bit hazy, is that the older methods would take a long time for the yeast to get to work, to rise etc and also that more of the grains nutrients were left intact in the bread.
Whereas with newer methods, the yeast mixture is produced by some kind of centrifuge arrangement, with air being forced in, rather than being allowed to rise naturally, and fat used to keep it all together.
I don't remember the exact details, and some of what I have just said may be patchy.
A quick google for 'Modern bread manufacture methods' returned this link:
http://drcranton.com/nutrition/bread.htm (http://drcranton.com/nutrition/bread.htm)
I'm sure there are plenty of others.
Oh, heh, in answer to your question. No, locally baked, or supermarket baked bread is just the same (at least in the UK) since almost all places buy the dough or yeast all premixed, and as always seems to be the way, there's only three major bakeries that seem to make all of the bread.
I remember a French girl I used to work with, remarked
'It's the same in France, the boulanger doesn't get up at 4am to make the dough, he buys it'
Sad, but true :-(
Perhaps we could all do with having a read around this subject. I have thought about making my own bread for a while, but I frankly don't have the time.
I'm managing to survive ok without it at the moment, in any case.
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@ Karlos
Do you live anywhere near the Oxford Road?
I remember getting a few curries from the 'curry mile' when I was a student there ('97-'98)
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@Vincent
You may want to ask for a camera up the other end, a painless procedure (primarily because your asleep) that may find something not'quite'rite down there. The prep for the procedure isn't pleasent, but it is very reassuring. To be honest, the only thing I was worried about was the doctor deciding to take advantage of my exposed backside :-P
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:lol:
I'm not sure if I should be laughing, or scolding you for thinking such a thing! :-)
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Cyberus wrote:
@ Karlos
Do you live anywhere near the Oxford Road?
I remember getting a few curries from the 'curry mile' when I was a student there ('97-'98)
That's Wilmslow Road. Oxford Road technically stopped somewhere between St Mary's and the old Jaguar showroom (no longer there, unfortunately).
I used to live near there, now I'm a bit further away. So, you were a student the same time I was also studying there :-D
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Oh, heh, in answer to your question. No, locally baked, or supermarket baked bread is just the same (at least in the UK) since almost all places buy the dough or yeast all premixed, and as always seems to be the way, there's only three major bakeries that seem to make all of the bread.
Nope, the bakers downunder are still up at 3am baking away until the afternoon, and they make their own dough, my uncle has a bakery and I am friendly with the baker around the corner from where I work. Even supermarkets make their own dough, a few years back I used to work in the store room at a major supermarket and I remember having to move huge pallets of flour.
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adz wrote:
the only thing I was worried about was the doctor deciding to take advantage of my exposed backside :-P
:lol:
I'd be a bit like that myself. The doctors I've seen (about 3 in total) have all said that a camera up the other end most likely wouldn't show anything as most of my problem starts before it reaches the bowel.
Because they don't really know what's wrong with me we've all just called it IBS for lack of a better word. It's as close as they can diagnose it and I do have some of the symptoms.
Example: in the morning I have a bowl of Frosties (which is the only thing that can get me going for the day), however this sometimes doesn't agree with me as quick as 5 mins after eating it. We know that it is the Frosties and not anything eaten from the night before as I am empty most of the time. I need to eat every hour or two because of my stupidly fast metabolism.
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I do have some allergy to ginger and turmeric that causes rather nasty stomach upsets but thats about it. As long as I avoid any large quantities of those I'm fine.
Veggie mince is strange stuff. It doesn't bother me, but it sure as hell disagrees with anybody forced to share the same few cubic metres of atmopshere with me for any length of time later :lol:
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adz wrote:
Oh, heh, in answer to your question. No, locally baked, or supermarket baked bread is just the same (at least in the UK) since almost all places buy the dough or yeast all premixed, and as always seems to be the way, there's only three major bakeries that seem to make all of the bread.
Nope, the bakers downunder are still up at 3am baking away until the afternoon, and they make their own dough, my uncle has a bakery and I am friendly with the baker around the corner from where I work. Even supermarkets make their own dough, a few years back I used to work in the store room at a major supermarket and I remember having to move huge pallets of flour.
Fair enough, I stand corrected. But the article I read in the newspapere seemed to suggest otherwise...
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Karlos wrote:
Cyberus wrote:
@ Karlos
Do you live anywhere near the Oxford Road?
I remember getting a few curries from the 'curry mile' when I was a student there ('97-'98)
That's Wilmslow Road. Oxford Road technically stopped somewhere between St Mary's and the old Jaguar showroom (no longer there, unfortunately).
I used to live near there, now I'm a bit further away. So, you were a student the same time I was also studying there :-D
Yeah, I spent a year studying Audio Technology in Salford before quitting and moving to London to study Physics. I still have friends that live in the Manchester area.
I went up to visit them when they were still at university - they all lived in the Fallowfield area (surprise!) :-)
By the by, I liked Manchester as a city, but it don't 'alf rain!!!
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Because they don't really know what's wrong with me we've all just called it IBS for lack of a better word. It's as close as they can diagnose it and I do have some of the symptoms.
In order for it to be IBS, the problem must be coming from your bowel, so a colonoscopy would be a good idea.
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Cyberus wrote:
By the by, I liked Manchester as a city, but it don't 'alf rain!!!
I don't know what you mean... (http://www.amiga.org/gallery/index.php?n=317) ;-)
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Cyberus wrote:
Fair enough, I stand corrected. But the article I read in the newspapere seemed to suggest otherwise...
Not necessarily, if the bakers get their flour from the same place the major manufacturers get theirs, then the bakers bread is no better for you, thats what I understood from the link you post previously. However, from what I read in that link, the bread I get from the bakery does fit in with what they describe as healthy bread, ie. it doesn't last very long, its quite heavy, it isn't bright white and it tastes good.
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Karlos wrote:
Cyberus wrote:
By the by, I liked Manchester as a city, but it don't 'alf rain!!!
I don't know what you mean... (http://www.amiga.org/gallery/index.php?n=317) ;-)
Colourblind paradise :lol: :lol: :lol:
Edit...anybody got the number for Coolio's agent :lol:
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Karlos wrote:
Cyberus wrote:
By the by, I liked Manchester as a city, but it don't 'alf rain!!!
I don't know what you mean... (http://www.amiga.org/gallery/index.php?n=317) ;-)
hehe, I think I've seen that photo in the image-o-matic before.
Just looking at it again, is it me, or do the posts seem, well disjointed? It looks as if the posts that people have replied to are no longer there....or am I just a bit tired?
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@asian1
Thanks for those links, I might have to take a closer look at Aloe Vera capsules as a long term option :-)
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X-ray wrote:
Don't you guys get a terrible 'ring sting' from all that hot food?
You gain a tolerance, that's all I can say.
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@Cyberus
I think the posts just span a long time :-)
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Cyberus wrote:
Just looking at it again, is it me, or do the posts seem, well disjointed? It looks as if the posts that people have replied to are no longer there....or am I just a bit tired?
Try changing it to "Oldest posts first" then refreshing ;-)
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Vincent wrote:
Cyberus wrote:
Just looking at it again, is it me, or do the posts seem, well disjointed? It looks as if the posts that people have replied to are no longer there....or am I just a bit tired?
Try changing it to "Oldest posts first" then refreshing ;-)
:lol:
Doh!
'silly sausage!', as my mum would say...
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Cyberus wrote:
'silly sausage!', as my mum would say...
Perhaps if it had been smarter it wouldn't have ended up as a sausage?
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hehe
I think that's one of her many East End expressions that kind of, how can I put it, imply an expletive without actually using one :-?
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adz wrote:
...is what was perscribed for me to help ease a...errr...digestive problem I have, all I can say is that it would have to be one of the worst things I have ever tasted, even when mixed with a huge glass of orange and mango juice you can still taste it...:shudder: Whats even scarier is that on the bottle, they've printed "New and improved flavour", I doubt it could be any worse :vomit:
LOL!
Sorry, but don't try that sh!t. I had it in my teens almost 10 years ago, and I found that it didn't matter how little you mix with another drink, you can't get rid of the flavour!
1% Aloe Vera & 99% Coke ... Yuck!
.5% Aloe, 99.5% Coke ... Yuck
Put something with a stronger flavour than Coke in there, such as Port or Sherry.... YUCK!
Sorry, but Aloe Vera seems to be nothing but quackery. Promoted mosty by the hippie greeny sorts. The type who also tell you that their herbal remedies cure AIDS and Cancer.
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Sorry, but Aloe Vera seems to be nothing but quackery. Promoted mosty by the hippie greeny sorts. The type who also tell you that their herbal remedies cure AIDS and Cancer.
I wouldn't say that, as it seems to have helped me, besides it was my doctor who suggested it, and I wouldn't exactly catagorise him as one of the "hippie greeny sorts".
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Neither would I describe it as something "hippy and greeny".
The best aftershave balm I've ever used contains Aloe, as there really are times when a fully grown male will want to apply moisturiser to his face to avoid shaving rash.
On a side note, Tea Tree is also very good as an antiseptic. Nothing hippy or greeny there...
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On a side note, Tea Tree is also very good as an antiseptic. Nothing hippy or greeny there...
I used a Tea Tree Oil based ointment to treat pimples when I was a teenager, worked great. In fact, I still use a few natural remedies on a daily basis. I use Ginko for my circulation (the circulation to my feet sucks) and Glucosamine for my joints (I have terrible knee's from playing soccer for 10 years) and I'm certainly not a "hippy".
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I use none of these products, I think homeopathy and so is bollocks most of the time, that the effect of such is mostly something between the ears (homeopathy and things like that never worked on me)
But I consider myself kinda a hippy :-)
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@iama
The only difference between these particular examples of "hippy greeny" remedies and pills you can get from your pharmacist are the level of refinement. I bet you would have laughed at people chewing willow bark for their headaches before aspirin was isolated :-)
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How about bread mold? That is about as homeopathic a treatment you can get. What kind of idiot would eat moldy bread when he is sick? But then, where would we be without penicillin? Many herbal cures have a sound chemical foundation which, if the MDs can see past mocking them, can end up in a pill with a name sufficiently weird that people consider it 'scientific' and acceptable.
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Vincent wrote:
Example: in the morning I have a bowl of Frosties (which is the only thing that can get me going for the day), however this sometimes doesn't agree with me as quick as 5 mins after eating it. We know that it is the Frosties and not anything eaten from the night before as I am empty most of the time. I need to eat every hour or two because of my stupidly fast metabolism.
Here's how I start my day. First a 3 mile walk in the morning. Then breakfast consists of Milk, some raw oatmeal, a banana, a tablespoon of peanut butter, a little honey, and some cinnamon. Put it all in a blender and puree. Makes for a protein rich shake with enough complex carbohydrates to give me energy and liquified so as to be easily digested. Then a ten minute exercise routine and I am ready to go.
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bjjones37 wrote:
Here's how I start my day. First a 3 mile walk in the morning.
I could never do that - I'm way too hungry when I get up. I can't even have a shower before my breakfast (and that only takes 10 mins).
I might try your "protein shake" though :-)
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I try to walk to work when the weather allows. It's a nice half mile (Swedish mile) and it makes breakfast taste better.
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whabang wrote:
I try to walk to work when the weather allows. It's a nice half mile (Swedish mile) and it makes breakfast taste better.
Is that walk open country side or concrete jungle?
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Oats for breakfast are definitely the way to go.
I have porage (made with water) with dried fruit, usually sultanas for breakfast. Great in the winter, and healthy healthy healthy!!! :-D
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On the topic...
Colonoscopies:
A physician claimed that the following are actual comments made by his patients (predominately male) while he was performing their colonoscopies:
1. "Take it easy, Doc. You're boldly going where no man has gone before!"
2. "Did you find Amelia Earhart yet?"
3. "Can you hear me NOW?"
4. "Are we there yet? Are we there yet? Are we there yet?"
5. "You know, in Arkansas, we would be legally married."
6. "Any sign of the trapped miners, Chief?"
7. "You put your left hand in, you take your left hand out..."
8. "Hey! Now I know how a Muppet feels!"
9. "If your hand doesn't fit, you must quit!"
10. "Hey Doc, let me know if you find my dignity."
11. "You were once an executive at Enron, weren't you?"
12. "Now I know why I am not gay."
And the best one of all...
13. "Could you write a note to my wife saying that my head is not up there?"
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:roll:
how silly...
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Star69 wrote:
On the topic...
Colonoscopies:
A physician claimed that the following are actual comments made by his patients (predominately male) while he was performing their colonoscopies:
And the best one of all...
13. "Could you write a note to my wife saying that my head is not up there?"
You forgot:
14. Now I know how Bloodline's sock feels
15. I wonder if the Prime Minister enjoys it this much when he does this to the country?
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@ Toy Boy
Those quotes aren't far-fetched: patients come up with the best lines sometimes.
Of course they are usually more subtle than comments made by the staff.
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@all
Its been week now and I'm finally getting used to the stuff, Aloe Vera juice that is, kinda adds a quirky flavour to my orange juice of a morning/evening.
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I found the best way to get rid of the taste of aloe vera is to make a chaser from the freshly squeezed pus of a septic cat...
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Karlos wrote:
I found the best way to get rid of the taste of aloe vera is to make a chaser from the freshly squeezed pus of a septic cat...
Yum!!! :-P
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*Karlos casts raise*
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You thread Necromancer you ! :lol:
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We need adz to make a reappearance too!
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Jeeez! What the hell is this thread surfacing from the depths of A.Org :lol:
Keep em coming guys :-)
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@A4K_Mad
Mate, there were some gems, I tell ye...
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NoFastMem wrote:
We need adz to make a reappearance too!
If you can make that happen :banana: :devildance:
How goes dude ! :-D
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GadgetMaster wrote:
Aloe Vera has some wonderful properties and is used quite a lot nowadays and for different stuff not only digestive health.
Drinking it has to be worst way of using it I will concur. :shocked:
I found handwash containing aloe vera tasted slightly better than taking it neat :lol:
*2008 stupidity liability disclaimer: Don't drink handwash.
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A4000_Mad wrote:
Jeeez! What the hell is this thread surfacing from the depths of A.Org :lol:
Keep em coming guys :-)
http://www.amiga.org/gallery/index.php?n=1991=30
We ain't ever let those threads die !! Oh No!:pissed: !
How goes A4000 ? :-D
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NoFastMem wrote:
We need adz to make a reappearance too!
He visits the camp thread so every now and then. :-)
And that thread would be nothing without him.
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@Speel
There exists no 'if'.
Imagine how much more linear code would be if that were only true.
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Karlos wrote:
@Speel
There exists no 'if'.
Imagine how much more linear code would be if that were only true.
But it isn't true, now is it? Which exactly proves my point there because the if in life is fictuous. The if in a programming language is merely a expanded goto statement.
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NoFastMem wrote:
We need adz to make a reappearance too!
And here I am!!! :-)
Gee this thread takes me back, gonna re-read it now. Wish I could dig up my nose hair thread too, that had a few good laughs in it :-D
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Didn't you find it yet?
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Karlos wrote:
Didn't you find it yet?
Loooong gone by the looks :-(
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adz wrote:
Karlos wrote:
Didn't you find it yet?
Loooong gone by the looks :-(
Drat :-(
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You can't have looked very far (http://www.amiga.org/forums/showthread.php?t=11300) ;-)