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Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga Hardware Issues and discussion => Topic started by: keropi on November 16, 2004, 11:11:21 AM
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I am thinking of getting a Viper 1260/56MHz from Vesalia,
LINK TO VESALIA PAGE FOR VIPER 1260/56 (http://www.vesalia.de/?V02b0f15575e421570565b5f520b514e01101f0954414752050140090a1e31115579633a223c6373744e03263f2a2a76610539646c6629687c2e347d40190a63754c5a1c54534560460a714a5144535b44012a7949400103184)
and I wanted some info about it, is it a reliable card? I know some will say that blizzard is great, but I am interested in this one. Because it is new, and not on ebay :pissed:
Will it work OK with my Amiga Technologies rev 10.4 motherboard (am I correct? or is this a Conmmodore era m/b? ) Anyone has it? Any info to share? I just want a reliable card...
btw, how the 1260/56 compares to 1240/40? Do they have a great speed difference? Because the 1240/40 price is nice :-D
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I don't have any info about the Viper 1260/56. But I can answer your compare question. A 060/56 Mhz uses lesser power than a 040/40MHz and it's about two times faster then a 040/40 MHz.
The only differences with an Blizzard 1260 are Optional Fast SCSI controller and can hold up to 128 MB SIMMs.
Don't forget to buy Oxypatcher to speed up the FPU instructions.
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where can I get oxypatcher? I searched it yesterday but nothing...
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I misspelled the program wrong.
It's Oxyron Patcher. You can buy it from Vesalia for 19,95 Euro
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@Keropi
Are you sure the revision of the board isn´t 1D.4? In that case it is a Commodore one... I don´t think there is a rev. 10.4 board at all...
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there isn't? then it must be 1D.4 ... I just peeked from a little corner the number... :-D is it a good revision?
20e for the oxyron patcher... expensive! and only for quake? (95% I use my 1200 for games)
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Don´t know... I recall having heard that the 1D.4 doesn´t have some of the timing faults that exists on the 2B, but I have never comprehended how Commodore engineers actually managed to raise the revision number, and add more faults at the same time... :-)
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hehe.. it happens all the time in modern software so why not also in hardware? :-)
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amiga1260 wrote:
The only differences with an Blizzard 1260 are Optional Fast SCSI controller and can hold up to 128 MB SIMMs.
Hmm, what about being able to disable the accelerator board with a keystroke? IIRC the Viper isn't capable of this....
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so no disable way, anything on stabillity?
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Have never owned one, so can't help you out on this one. In the end, you know my point of view on which board to buy or not.
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Eyetech have got a useful document (http://www.eyetech.co.uk/addbar.php?Address=/PRODUCT/PAMAC/AMIGA002.HTM) on their website detailing the various A1200 motherboard revisions...
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keropi wrote:
(95% I use my 1200 for games)
Well, then a 060 would be a waste. (But then again, a 060 in your miggy will drive you to use it in many more ways ;-))
If it's just whdload games, I think you'll find that a 030 will be a more cheap/stable/compatible solution.
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Well, then a 060 would be a waste. (But then again, a 060 in your miggy will drive you to use it in many more ways ) If it's just whdload games, I think you'll find that a 030 will be a more cheap/stable/compatible solution.
lol, I need more power! :-D plus I got some euros to spend on "thingies" plus when the becomes fast enough, there is a great possibility to start using it more seriously... maybe I'll add after a 060 somekind of RTG...
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take a look HERE (http://www.amiga.org/forums/showthread.php?t=3803)
and pay attention about the SIMMs type:
The only working SIMM is a FPM 1K refresh
Bye
PS- anyway . . .Vesalia sells the right one
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I would strongly advise you to get a Blizzard 1260 card and forget anything else. You will not regret it. The Blizzard/Cyberstorm line is like Mercedes-Benz of Amiga cards, while Apollo and Viper lines are more like Ford. :-)
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@x56h34
Aren't you giving the Apollo/Viper boards a little to much credit here? :-)
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Perhaps he means that Phase5 HW owners are pompous, selfcentred, middle-aged, balding males? :-P.
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:lol: guys
Info/ratting of VIPER 1260/56Mhz board from Vesalia
Ratting? Hmm, if only my Jack Russell terrier was still alive, she was good at chasing down rodents.
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Hi,
have been using Viper1260 on my 3.9 A1200 since august 2003.
Good board, for the price.
Definitely buy it with its 64MB simm as it is not easy to find working simms for Viper, EDO won't work, only FPM.
It is stable, I did the A1200 underboard modification, desoldering 2 resistors, just in case, because I didn't notice any change.
Recently I overclocked it to 66MHz, changing quartz-adding socket.
SysSpeed says there has been an average 10% increase in speed on all tests but intuition, which decreased.
After overclock I have some problem in my net with PC, before everything was smooth, now it is slow and stucking.
I underclocked it again to its 56MHz.Net stuckiness remains.
Anyway I agree, Blizzards are better.
On Viper you can't use Blizkick, which is very useful.
Ciao
S.
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oh, fudge it! I got a Phase5 1260 :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D
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keropi wrote:
oh, fudge it! I got a Phase5 1260 :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D
Good for you son! I recently got one, although i haven't tested it yet, as i need to install a few things from my older hard drive. I can safely say that no one should buy anything less than a Blizzard, for maximum enjoyment with Amiga! :-)
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I swapped the Blizzard 1260 twice before I had a full-working and stable card. The first 1260 was stable, but I couldn't turn the card of with the '2' key and the second one crashed everytime when I use FPU or 060 specific software. I had to wait 9 months to get an working card. It was made by DCE.
In 1994 I bought a Blizzard 1230IV (Phase 5). This card crashed every time, After swapping for another card, it works very well, even today.
In 1996 I wanted to buy Blizzard 1230 SCSI kit. My first doesn't like SCSI-2 devices, only SCSI-1 devices like Apple Power CD. In the end, I have two working SCSI-kits.
I think a Viper 1260/56 is a good value of money.