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Title: Elbox/Apollo 1230MK3 whdload FREEZE, any help?
Post by: keropi on November 15, 2004, 06:50:53 AM

I got from ebay an APOLLO 1230 MK3 TURBO card with a full 68030@40mhz... I do not know if it is the elbox model, they look the same, and there are no markings, the cpu is soldered on the board too. I used with it several 8MB 60 or 70 ns memory modules, the card is relativelly fast and has no problems running the os3.9 and apps, BUT upon starting a WHDLOAD slave, the amiga freezees! No errors, no nothing, just freezees.... I also suspect I have an amiga technologies 1200, as the board revision is 10.4 and the mouseport is blue (I don't know if this matters) Any help on this? Whdload says it has some probs with the Apollo MK2 boards, but this is mk3...   :-?  :-?
I applied a heatsink on the 68030... which is a factory overclocked 28Mhz one! :pissed:

Title: Re: Elbox/Apollo 1230MK3 whdload FREEZE, any help?
Post by: keropi on November 15, 2004, 06:56:17 AM

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Title: Re: Elbox/Apollo 1230MK3 whdload FREEZE, any help?
Post by: MrZammler on November 15, 2004, 09:42:08 AM

Ela keropi,

this is a strange one. I would suspect something going on with the MMU on this thing. Does it have one? Maybe whdload expects a MMU to be present, not really sure...

Have you tried any options to whdload?
http://www.whdload.de/docs/en/mmu.html

Title: Re: Elbox/Apollo 1230MK3 whdload FREEZE, any help?
Post by: whabang on November 15, 2004, 09:51:15 AM

I had one of those in my 1200. It looks like an Elbox 1230-II card. Mine was fast, though unstable as hell, and it ruined two motherboards.
I had to place a heatsink on the CPU and two of the other chips to stop the regular freezes.

There is no working MMU in the CPU. The chips are full 28 MHz 030s labelled as MMU-less 40 MHz 030s. The MMU does not work those speeds. I guess you could buy a full 40 MHz 030 and put it on the card instead. That sure would take care of the heating problem.

Oh, I barely managed to make anysoftware to work with it. With 4 megs of RAM in the PCMCIA-slot, most more mem-demanding apps worked fine, althogh slow. When I put the turbo-card in the system, everything started to {bleep} up! :-x

Title: Re: Elbox/Apollo 1230MK3 whdload FREEZE, any help?
Post by: keropi on November 15, 2004, 10:15:42 AM

sh!t!  :pissed:

Title: Re: Elbox/Apollo 1230MK3 whdload FREEZE, any help?
Post by: Christian Johansson on November 15, 2004, 02:29:09 PM

Have you tried the NOMMU tooltype?

Title: Re: Elbox/Apollo 1230MK3 whdload FREEZE, any help?
Post by: doctorq on November 15, 2004, 04:30:10 PM

He he, that's why Blizzard boards rock, since they don't get these kind of problems. Just plug and play and fly away.

Ditch the card you have now and get a Blizzard 1230 instead. They also have 68030@50 I think, and still no need to put a heatsink on it.