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Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga Hardware Issues and discussion => Topic started by: fatman2021 on November 12, 2004, 08:08:29 PM
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Objective: To build a consumer TV based on the Eyetech MicroAmigaONE and Computer Cities PC/TV case and running AmigaOS 4.0.
Some specifications :
* 15" TFT screen, 1024x768 maximum resolution
* Built-in speakers
* Philips TV Tuner with remote control
* 250W PSU
* 2 x USB (2.0 compatible) ports on the front side of the case
* 256MB RAM(+/-)
* 1 x 32bit 33MHz slot
* Integrated VIA 686B ATA100 controller. 40 & 44 way headers
* 3COM 10/100 controller
* CM!8738 6-channel 5.1 surround sound with CDROM, front audio on headers
* 2 x rear panel sockets; 2 on headers
* Ati Radeon 7000 32MB with SVGA, SVHS and composite video outputs on back panel
* PS/2 mouse & k/b, game, parallel ports on back panel; 1 x serial on header
* Uboot 1.1.1 or higher available either with Linux and OS4, or Linux only (for industrial customers) support.
* AmigaOS 4.0
* Amount needed for 1st prototype $1,500
* Suggested end user price: $2,100 - $3,000
Once we assemble the first MircoA1 TV prototype, we will go around to different investment clubs to rise founds to mass-produce and market the MicroA1 TV to companies like CompUSA, Wall-Mart, BestBuy, and OfficeMax. We will also be selling MicroA1 TVs through Amiga local dealers, and auction sites like eBay. To do this we will need about $1.5 million US.
link (http://fatman2021.4t.com/)
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Good luck
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* Suggested end user price: $2,100 - $3,000
What user group are you targetting ? The same as Windows Media Center ?
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@seer
Yes, the same group.
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Well, I'm not interested in any Media Center kinda stuf, but I hope you succeed. Wil be a very long and not to mention though battle...
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fatman2021 wrote:
@seer
Yes, the same group.
But wouldn't they expect it to be nearer $299... and beable to run lots of software?
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Hi
I like the project, and think its really cool for you as a cool computer. However, to try to mass produce or sell this configuration is sheer suicide, and a bit delusional especially at that price range. You are of course aware that a G5 Imac is only $1300?? ANd please dont say "Yeah but it doesnt run OS4" well OS4 isnt really in a state for even high end home computing use, especially for a Multimedia station.
There are NO os4 drivers for video capture, firewire,video editing, or anything that is useful to this concept.
magnetic
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Realisticly, how many $2500-3000 A1's do you think you can sell?
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Yes, but then I would have to produce them in units of 200,000 vs. units of 2,000
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But wouldn't they expect it to be nearer $299... and beable to run lots of software?
I'll admit I didn't look long for any prices for Media Center PC's, but IIRC to get the most out of it, people need a reasonable specced PC and I think I saw them priced at about $1000. (could be wrong, but with all the extra Eyecandy ontop of WinXP...)
Like I said, I didn't look hard, so...
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:roflmao: :roflmao: :roflmao:
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I have know that the SONY PCV-RZ46G Desktop runs in the range of $1,250 to $2,500.
link (http://www.calibex.com/serv/calibex1/buyer/outpdir.jsp?nxtg=196d88_E82C0C0A88F5B3F2&OVRAW=Media+Center+PC%27s&OVMTC=standard&search=media+center+pcs&OVKEY=media+center+pcs)
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fatman2021 wrote:
I have know that the SONY PCV-RZ46G Desktop runs in the range of $1,250 to $2,500.
link (http://www.calibex.com/serv/calibex1/buyer/outpdir.jsp?nxtg=196d88_E82C0C0A88F5B3F2&OVRAW=Media+Center+PC%27s&OVMTC=standard&search=media+center+pcs&OVKEY=media+center+pcs)
But you can't compare that monster Sony system (3.2Ghz, 1Gig DDR, 200gigHD, DVD-RW) with an A1... :-o
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I can't realy depend on KMOS...They do even have a webpage up and running
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Yes, but by reverse logic they may not have a website because they have something worth hiding.
When did you put up the cash to by Amiga Inc and OS4?....Oh right, you didn't. If anyone could do it, then why didn't they. Give'em a chance. They aren't ready to announce anything, but they must be dying to say something. No one just sits on something and waits.
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1- Congratulation for you energy in this project.
2- I suggeto so contatc KMOS or Eyetech
3- I think that this case can take a microatx also
This project is a good thing, but maybe it is too early for it. Why don't team up with Project reality team and do something togheter? Anyway good luck.
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fatman2021 wrote:
To do this we will need about $1.5 million US.
And how exactly do you propose to raise that?
Is it just me or do projects like this just sound too much like pipedreams?
Sorry to put it so bluntly but I don't believe it will ever happen unless you already have that much in personal finance and are dedicated enough to blow it on this project. It absolutely makes no business sense at all.
You are welcome to prove me wrong though.
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>But wouldn't they expect it to be nearer $299... and beable to run lots of software?
Depends. Most people doing such things I know about are using MythTV. I'm one of them, using bog-standard PC stuff, and I've still easily spend about what his price range is, and am likely to spend even more on it. (Better case as I'm not happy with the Antec Overture one, more TV tuners with hardware MPEG encode, more hard drives, HDTV tuner, some sort of HDTV output card or SVGA/HDTV converter...)
Your $300 price, I spent more than that on hard drives alone. But I'm crazier than some. :)
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GadgetMaster wrote:
And how exactly do you propose to raise that?
Didn't you see the PayPal donate now button on the webpage? :crazy:
Although I think that it's nice to see innovation in the community, at least find a product that people actually want. And a $2500 smart TV aint that.
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Do you know where I can find a I-Mac G5 style case...?
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Don't take me wrong but developing and selling a TV based on a $1000 m/b, that has no OS, no software and no IDE controller that works is just plain ridiculous. Especially when you (as you suggest) plan to sell it for a mere 100% profit. Importantly, the A1 has no support for TV-cards: you'll be selling a TV that has no TV support... :lol:
You could have a unique marketing line:
"Watch TV when it's done!" (TM)
I imagine people will flock to buy a TV based on a prototype m/b and a beta os for less than $3000 - investors will certainly go mad about it...I can see a million dollars flying your way! :lol:
What about buying $50 el-cheapo TVs off WalMart, rebadge them into "AmiTV-MK1" and then re-sell them for $2500? This project has certainly a much greater probability of success - this is the only scenario I can envisage where you could at least come up with a working prototype...It is also a business model that has proved popular in the amiga world in the last few years - before you know it you may find yourself giving presentations in China (in the factory that actually made these TVs)! :P
Seriously though, for the sake of argument, let's assume for a second (improbable as it may be) that two years down the line you've come up with your 1.5 million dollars you've hired software and hardware engineers to do the job and a prototype is finally ready - you'll be then in a position to market a 6-year old plus media centre computer against whatever market alternative will be then on offer for less than $300...my point; do something better with your time
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Well to be honest i would not buy anything with a tv card in to use as a real tv as the tv card in my computer has a very poor output compared to a real crt tv.
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adolescent wrote:
Didn't you see the PayPal donate now button on the webpage? :crazy:
[sarcasm]
Wow ! Is it as easy as that? If I just stick a dream specification on a freeservers static webpage and also include a paypal button I too can get $ 1.5 Million ? :-o :-o :-?
Now why didn't I think of that before.
[/sarcasm]
I don't know the true intentions of those involved but if they know anything about the Amiga community and its history they would steer clear of anything that bears the hallmarks of a classic scam. The community has been hardened as a result of all the scams, vapourwar and false promises to the extent that they would probably not even donate $50 dollars to any Amiga project even if the Queen herself endorsed it.
Harsh reality.
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Do you know where I can find a I-Mac G5 style case...?
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@fatman:
Er....your webpage has popups....