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I think I've finally found an American equivalent to Chavs. The people who hang out in Denny's Restaurants.
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They spread like a disease. It was only a matter of time before your country got sick too. Expect to have to pay for them, no matter what political party you vote for.
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They're everywhere. Unfortunately, the Swedish word for chav would probably be equivalent to "paki"; the white-trash wave missed us the first time.
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whabang wrote:
They're everywhere. Unfortunately, the Swedish word for chav would probably be equivalent to "paki"; the white-trash wave missed us the first time.
What an unfortunate name... paki has another meaning in English...
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Here in nl it's known since year and day as "Sjonnies" (male name, in plural, kinda like Johnny) and "Anita's".
There was a tv-serie about that phenomenon back in the 80's, early 90's, called Flodder. Now there's something alike, tis a "real-life" soap about the "Tokkies".
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T_Bone wrote:
I think I've finally found an American equivalent to Chavs. The people who hang out in Denny's Restaurants.
The Australian equivilent might be the kids who hang out side McDonalds.
I wonder if the US has the equivilent of what we call 'derro's'
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@iama
They *are* the kids who hang around outside McDonalds...
Perhaps the Antipodean genus of chav may dress differently but clearly they exhibit similar behavioural patterns :lol:
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The Australian equivilent might be the kids who hang out side McDonalds.
They used to be called Marios's and Maria's, now both terms have been replaced with Muzza, from what I remember anyway, now I just refer to them as wankers.
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adz wrote:
The Australian equivilent might be the kids who hang out side McDonalds.
They used to be called Marios's and Maria's, now both terms have been replaced with Muzza, from what I remember anyway, now I just refer to them as wankers.
Yeah, but 'wankers' covers too many different types of 'assholes', and 'assholes' is an umbrella term for too many types of 'wankers'. ;-)
Never heard Marios's, Maria's, or Muzza's? Is that Greek or Italian??
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Yeah, but 'wankers' covers too many different types of 'assholes', and 'assholes' is an umbrella term for too many types of 'wankers'. ;-)
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Never heard Marios's, Maria's, or Muzza's? Is that Greek or Italian??
Its supposed to be making fun of Italians cruising around in their lowered V6 Commodores, along with a 4 inch exhaust tip and a pile of Pioneer 12inch subs in their boot. However, the term can be applied to abybody fitting this description, whether their Greek, Italian or Skippy.
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What an unfortunate name... paki has another meaning in English...]What an unfortunate name... paki has another meaning in English...
I meant that word. We have no word for 'chavs', as those who fit into that cathergory are called various nicknames for darker-skinned foreigners instead.
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@ adz and iamaboringperson
In addition to the Marios and Marias, there are aslo the bogans (obviously) who reigned in the same era as the Marios. However, soon the Marios (identified by the mullet) became defunct (early 90s were the time that this species became extinct) whereas the bogan was able to morph! They became the aggressive "homie" modelling themselves on the rapper, and ares till distinguished today as either A) morphed bogan B) aggresive homie (with cap and baggy jeans and whatnot) C) the junkie homie who wreak havoc on the public transport system with their swearing and aggresiveness. Howvever, these last three find their roots in the mulleted bogan of the 80s.
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@Bodie_CI5
Thanks for the informative post on the chavanthropology of the antipodean offshoots of this diverse and successful* species :lol:
*successful in the same way weeds are.
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@ Karlos
Glad to be of assistance.
However, there is one aspect of the bogan which I had not touched upon in my previous post:
The Bogan
The "Bogan" is the product of the 60s. It represents the negative side effect of the drug generation which is exemplified by the taste for aggresiveness over no issue at all. The stock standard outfit were stone washed jeans, Torana t-shirts (a make of car here) or of Metallica, Guns n' Roses etc tshirts (they were heavily into Heavy Metal) as well as the ubiquitous mullet. There have been unconfirmed sightings of these species, but unfortuantely they remain on government records as just that... unconfirmed. Although I must say I have sighted one or two on the public transport system. Alas, no government authority will believe me. :-( With heavy metal "losing" its reign over mainstream culutre in the late eighties and its supplanting with Glamour Rock and Grunge, there was a wilting away of this species. They became disaffected, and dispersed. They re-formed into Grunge enthusiasts but mainly into rap as this was more hard core than the other alternatives at the time. This morphing has left a whole generation of "new age bogans" fullof angst and thirst for violence in full view of the public. However, the worst kind would have to be the "junkie homie" of which I touched upon briefly before. But that can wait till a next post.
Here endeth the lesson.
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Heh you're kinda lucky, all we get here are kids who buy 1.0 litre cars for about £50 and then put a £2000 sound system in, and an exhaust the size of the drill that made the channel tunnel :lol: Shame their still a pile of poo at the end of the day :-D
Robert
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Robert17 wrote:
Heh you're kinda lucky, all we get here are kids who buy 1.0 litre cars for about £50 and then put a £2000 sound system in, and an exhaust the size of the drill that made the channel tunnel :lol: Shame their still a pile of poo at the end of the day :-D
Robert
Yep - I'm sure we're not the only ones to have noticed that - the amount of money some of these kids spend on their souped up Nova or whatever, they could get a second hand Lotus Elise for that, far more to likely to impress the ladies and their chavvy friends...
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Nobody said chavs were rational ;-)
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When I think about it I would have to say that about 75% of the town I live in would be considered "chavs", however I just call them white trash or west end trash. About 20% of the population would be what I consider "normal" people, and the last 5% would be the rich, who would rather try to screw you out of your money by finding ways to sue you than give you the time of day. Maybe I should consider moving! LOL
-Jamie
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Bodie_CI5 wrote:
@ adz and iamaboringperson
In addition to the Marios and Marias, there are aslo the bogans (obviously) who reigned in the same era as the Marios. However, soon the Marios (identified by the mullet) became defunct (early 90s were the time that this species became extinct) whereas the bogan was able to morph! They became the aggressive "homie" modelling themselves on the rapper, and ares till distinguished today as either A) morphed bogan B) aggresive homie (with cap and baggy jeans and whatnot) C) the junkie homie who wreak havoc on the public transport system with their swearing and aggresiveness. Howvever, these last three find their roots in the mulleted bogan of the 80s.
So what catagory does the Kappa/Adidas brigade fall under??? And I am sure that the term Mario (now Muzza) is still widely used, I havn't heard the term "homie" in many years.
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Robert17 wrote:
all we get here are kids who buy 1.0 litre cars for about £50 and then put a £2000 sound system in
And then all they do is pootle around car parks and sit outside the petrol station in the evening,shouting out "You`re sad" to anyone who goes past.
A while back I was in my local builders merchants, and there was a wanna-be chav behind the counter. After he gave me my change he asked "Wanna buy Ford Sierra?? Put £5 of petrol in it,and you can drive around town all night"
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:lol:
That reminds me - when I was 17, I got a Mk II Toyota Supra. I basically spent a year's wages on it, got a 'grant' from my parents and borrowed another few hundred off them, which I paid off over the next year.
Anyway, that car (which is still in my garage) SHIFTS. It's 2759cc RWD injection that goes like the clappers if you drive it right (which also means not giving it too much gas at the wrong time when going through corners :insane: )
Anyway, this was about 7 years ago or so, when the Ford Escort XR3i was in its heyday. There's a street in my 'home' town, Maidstone, where kids used to hang around with their souped up cars, with their fat stereos with bass boxes etc, and people used to say that they raced along that street.
So anyway, one day I was driving along with a couple of mates, and someone suggests I take the car down that street. So I do....and off we go!
The passenger in the front seat turns the Slayer CD up full blast (alas I didn't have a stupid sound system in my car, as I tended to spend all my money on records and CDS - this is when I worked in a record shop) so my speakers are slowly getting {bleep}ed....
Anyway, I race along the road with this car, trying to overtake it and hitting about 80mph in the process, only to find that all these cars do, is race to the end of the street, seemingly 'in procession' (i.e. not overtaking) turn round, and drive back again :-?
I thought to myself, what's the point in that :-?
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Ahhhh... I remember When my old Renault5 finally bit the dust... I borrowed my Mothers Renault Clio... Then I went to pick up my friends and we were driving down to Ryde Seafront (where the 1999 Isle of Wight equivlient of Chavs hung out), and James (my best mate) asked me if we had any music...
I wasn't sure and pull out a tape from the glove box... we wound down all the windows and turned the stereo up to full volume... James put the tape in the machine and swtiched it on... We got some strange looks as we drove passed all the youths, while head banging to "The Wheels on the Bus go round and round..."
We enjoyed it so much that my Baby brother never got his tape back :lol: