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Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga Software Issues and Discussion => Topic started by: swordfish on October 07, 2004, 06:19:56 AM
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Hi,
Does anyone have this program that they would sell to me?? name your price.
Cheers
Swordfish
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How about Aladdin4D?
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Wasn't Real 3D 1.4 on a cover disk?
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You can find the old v1.4 in adf format on the internet, cause it was released for free some years back.. Just search for it on google.
But i guess maybe you might be out after a newer version? If so, then i cannot help you sorry..
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Try here (http://nthdimension.emuunlim.com/) (cover disks)
But i imagine that, Imagine V1.5 was probably better...
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Way better. Or at the very least, much easier to learn.
Unfortunately,it doesn't yet work on my AmigaOne...
OS4 native version is apparently on the way,though.
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Version 2 (I think) was available on an Amiga Format cover CD. Unfortunately I don't have it anywhere near where I am at the moment. :-(
But anyway I guess you're looking for the "real" thing with manuals and all. :-)
Edit:
This was the issue
Amiga Format issue 87 (http://amiga.emugaming.com/af/af087.html)
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Hum,
found it on that site...
real3d for you to enjoy in the comfort and safty of your own home: Amiga Computing disk 19 (http://nthdimension.emuunlim.com/ac-rl3d.adz)
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@ Blobzie
I also looked for it for him, and thought I had found it in the 'Unsorted' section of Amiga Computing, but that is not the one. That one has the save disabled: he won't get much fun out of it.
I remember a different disk. (But I can't find it there)
But anyway...maybe he can get V2...
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Imagine4 was given away on CU-Amiga CD-Rom 6 (January 1997). That disc includes 100Mb of Imagine extras.
A licensed edition of Cinema4D was CUA's swan song on CD-ROM 27 (October 1998).
Both are arguably better than the Amiga version of Real 3D, but it's a personal opinion.
The best of the best is LightWave 3D, now almost impossible to get (though I saw one one AmiBench recently) and it's worth scouring eBay. It appears there fairly often, but usually the pc versions.
Cheers,
JaX
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@ JaXanim:
Agreed, Cinema is better than Real 3D (I used both at one time). I didn't know they had that on a cover disk...were all the features enabled?
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@X-ray
Yes, I think it was the full Cinema 4D. I used it for a while and was very happy with it. I'm probably going to purchase release 9 for PC in not too long. Can't wait to get back into some serious modelling again. :-)
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@X-ray
Yes, I think so. I remember Hi-Soft selling manuals and stuff in one of mags. You had to call them to get the licence key to run the CUCD.
Releasing the licence number became an issue in some quarters. People who left it too late were disappointed to find Hi-Soft closed down and their disk unusable. It may be a matter of opinion, but I think since they published the CD, anyone with a legal copy should have access to the licence key. CUA simply forgot to publish it in the mag, they admitted that and quoted a phone number to call. That lasted a few weeks and then went dead.
The CUCD installer was also faulty! It wouldn't work at all. Amiga Format subsequently included a revised installer for the CUCD which had the licence number built in. That was in AFCD35 (January 1999).
Cheers,
JaX
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@ Bezzen
I'd like to know how much you get that Cinema 9 for.
@ JaXanim
The Amiga version of Cinema I have is "Version 4.2 CD-Edition Pro FP".
(Original bought in 1996 and then I paid for an upgrade in 1997). The date in my 'About' menu is 26.4.97.
What version did they give away?
@ Swordfish
Do you have to have Real 3D specifically? What tracing are you going to do?
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Errrr.... Isn't it about time we got a port of the Blender3d renderer? Its on practically all other platforms.
The source has been available for years now. It even has an associated game engine.
http://www.blender3d.org/ (http://www.blender3d.org/)
I tried it the other night on my PC and the UI was a bit slow. Hopefully, I'll see the rendering is better when I get around to it. They UI is probably slow because its drawing it independently of the OS, which would ease porting and maintaining the code base.
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@X-ray
The CUCD edition of C4D has the same date, 26.4.97 and the same description, "Version 4.2 CD-Edition Pro FP", as yours.
Cheers,
JaX
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My favourite Amiga rendering software is
Imagine, LightWave comes in a close 2nd.
Real3D has some amazing output quality and
features but learning how to operate it's
quirky and complex interface can be a big
problem. Real3D is also quite slow.
I haven't used Aladdin4D much but it looks
decent. Cinema4D is nice but I find it
lacks too many things compared to Imagine
or LightWave.
I am also hoping to see a port of Blender3D
soon since most of the classic Amiga rendering
programs have been discontinued at this point...
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@realstar
I guess it's a personal choice, but Imagine's six (at my last count) interfaces makes it terribly cumbersome. Amiga LightWave is a dream in comparison. As for output quality, they didn't produce Babylon5, RoboCop, SeaQuestDSV, etc., etc. with Imagine, nor C4D, nor Real3D.
The SFX for the original (and best) series of Babylon5 was rendered using a bank of A4000s running LightWave v3.5. Anyone familair with LW will know about the use of the Sharp Terminator function. This gives rendered planets a much more realistic appearance than Phong Shading alone will give. NewTek added that because of the demands of Babylon5. Not a lot know that!
Cheers,
JaX
(LightWaver above all)
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> I guess it's a personal choice, but Imagine's six (at my last count) interfaces makes it terribly cumbersome. Amiga LightWave is a dream in comparison.
It has a lot to do with experience. I have used
Imagine for a lot of years and find it very intuitive.
Lately I have been using LightWave though since it
works better on MOS and I am starting to like
it quite a bit. I never used LightWave at all until
I got my ToasterFlyer system a couple years ago though. :)
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@realstar
You're right. The most important thing, whatever you choose, is to enjoy it, eh?
Cheers,
JaX